Yes, there is no comparison between Montreal and Toronto, especially if you like young GFE spinners like I do. There is actually no place in the world quite like Montreal for looks, service, value and ease of booking. Although I did have a pretty good time in Guadalajara a couple of weeks ago. I actually have trouble booking a young spinner in Toronto for outcalls - the agencies close up early and the average girl seems more taller and older than Montreal.
Where have you hobbied outside of Montreal.
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Yes, there is no comparison between Montreal and Toronto, especially if you like young GFE spinners like I do. There is actually no place in the world quite like Montreal for looks, service, value and ease of booking. Although I did have a pretty good time in Guadalajara a couple of weeks ago. I actually have trouble booking a young spinner in Toronto for outcalls - the agencies close up early and the average girl seems more taller and older than Montreal.
My visits in Copenhagen were a few years ago, but I always got BBBJ. But the quality was variable - one girl was absolutely gorgeous and service-oriented, while another was definitely neither.
These group scenes have never attracted me.
I prefer a one on one every time and I tend to do repeat visits.
I tried a duo once with my ATF and another lady that I really liked and saw a few times.
While it was a great experience and they ended up becoming friends, I think I would have preferred a one on one with my ATF.
I guess you have to be a bit of an exhibitionist and someone who enjoys getting public attention to truly enjoy these FKK, which I am not.
I prefer a one on one every time and I tend to do repeat visits.
I tried a duo once with my ATF and another lady that I really liked and saw a few times.
While it was a great experience and they ended up becoming friends, I think I would have preferred a one on one with my ATF.
I guess you have to be a bit of an exhibitionist and someone who enjoys getting public attention to truly enjoy these FKK, which I am not.
You will have no shortage of choices in Spain. There are a million and one websites that offer hobby experiences. Prices are reasonable due to the heavy competition. Get a head start now search masaje eroticos anuncios clasificados on google.es.
Hahaha what a funny and obviously pointless and uninformed post. You made me laugh a lot. Thank you for your great sense of humour. But as once wrote Martin Luther King (I quote) Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
If, from your supposed ''informed'' point of view, ''commercial sex transactions'' are solitary affairs and a ''private matter'' why the heck do you write on a public board???
Where do you get the ''information'' that club guys enjoy public sex and group sex. Did you made a thorough and bona fide investigation? Heinnn, probably not... Okay...
I was never a fan of Termas : When I was in Rio (1982-1984) I never went to Help because it was a tourist trap for gullible Americans. I don't know nothing about how FKKs work but I went twice to Termas in Rio and there were never acts of public sex in theses places. The were live sex shows in certain boates in Copacabana but you could not participate in the orgy thta was going on on stage. There is no public sex either in privês and clinicas in São Paulo. Sometimes there are PRIVATE parties (surubas) where you can have sex in public but most people avoid this because they are not comfortable with it (as I do... and I don't want especially to see another guy's dick when I am with a lady - or two).
Ohhh and I do like this excerpt : "It seems to me that the social nature of clubs draws the type of customer who seeks attention and recognition in a public setting, and has the type of personality to consider himself superior to others. Oh là là... Sorry, but it seems to me that your nick PATRON betrays a desire to express that you feel superior to others. Honestly why did you choose that inegalitarian-laden nick? That's funny because mine, Protagoras, emphasizes relativism and large and mutual understanding between different cultures.
Keep on writing Monsieur le Patron, I learn a lot when I read you private oups public posts!
À bon entendeur salut! From São Paulo with love!
I left a long time ago, in 2013,the other board (I hope we mean the same: ISGF) because all the posts were the same and biaised. I wrote under the name sjui generis and I feel a litte bit resonsible for the dérive on ISGF. I was the only to reports posts with incall free-lancers (Elektra Stocklos, Leticia Lima, Maya, and many many others.
Back then (between 2005 and 2013) there was also another guy (an European, I think he passed away on an illness n 2012 or 2013) who was defending his vision of hobbying: high end escorts working for a Madam (I don't remeber her name because she passed also away). I had arguments with him trying to cionvice him that he was paying too much. I learned then that people are free to choose the way they want to hobby. I understood this in 2013 when I met a Quebecer multimillionaire who has businees in Brazil (and he was selling them because he was sure that the economy of Brazil would collapse. We know what happened with Lula and Roussef, Temer and now with Bolsonaro... He didn't care to pay 5,000$ for a session because he wanted EXCLUSIVITY. He could afford this.
The problem with ISGF is that I refered all the gringo to my friend ABG and he is biased when he only brings the guys to Vanie's venues (I don't know if it is you but somebody mentioned the fact that he has an interest in this). I was always critical of Vanie especially of the quality of the premisses : mold on the walls, thugs in place (in 2013 I was with a Frenchman (born in Algeria) and I always had a fight with a drunken nordestino because he was jealous of the attention whe received from the garotas (Nimphus that was the name of the French guy was young and very good looking, a real player)
That's the reason why I left ISGF there were too much bashing. I still have contact however with the Braziliian GP Guia.
I don't hobby anymore in Montréal even if I spend several months there. I still have the same girl friend (since 1987) and I'm happy with my relationship with her. My problem with Montréal is that my last experiences there were very unsatisfying. My last one was with a girl working for Mojo (I don't even know if the agency still is in operation) The girl was below my standards of beauty and intelligence and the receptionst f the hotel called me because she didn't like the girl (I don't know what she did or said in the hobby).
My other problem with Montral is the paucity of escorts. When you want to book girlsl they are already pre-booked and for me this is a real mood killer.
Back then (between 2005 and 2013) there was also another guy (an European, I think he passed away on an illness n 2012 or 2013) who was defending his vision of hobbying: high end escorts working for a Madam (I don't remeber her name because she passed also away). I had arguments with him trying to cionvice him that he was paying too much. I learned then that people are free to choose the way they want to hobby. I understood this in 2013 when I met a Quebecer multimillionaire who has businees in Brazil (and he was selling them because he was sure that the economy of Brazil would collapse. We know what happened with Lula and Roussef, Temer and now with Bolsonaro... He didn't care to pay 5,000$ for a session because he wanted EXCLUSIVITY. He could afford this.
The problem with ISGF is that I refered all the gringo to my friend ABG and he is biased when he only brings the guys to Vanie's venues (I don't know if it is you but somebody mentioned the fact that he has an interest in this). I was always critical of Vanie especially of the quality of the premisses : mold on the walls, thugs in place (in 2013 I was with a Frenchman (born in Algeria) and I always had a fight with a drunken nordestino because he was jealous of the attention whe received from the garotas (Nimphus that was the name of the French guy was young and very good looking, a real player)
That's the reason why I left ISGF there were too much bashing. I still have contact however with the Braziliian GP Guia.
I don't hobby anymore in Montréal even if I spend several months there. I still have the same girl friend (since 1987) and I'm happy with my relationship with her. My problem with Montréal is that my last experiences there were very unsatisfying. My last one was with a girl working for Mojo (I don't even know if the agency still is in operation) The girl was below my standards of beauty and intelligence and the receptionst f the hotel called me because she didn't like the girl (I don't know what she did or said in the hobby).
My other problem with Montral is the paucity of escorts. When you want to book girlsl they are already pre-booked and for me this is a real mood killer.
Started my hobbying in the red light district of Amsterdam. Feels like a million years ago. What an unusual experience it was. Walking the streets late at night with hundreds of other gawkers and tourists. Girls dancing in the red light surrounded windows, catching your eye, hooking their finger at you in a "come hither" fashion.
Very overwhelming experience. Everything was covered. I even had to DATY a girl with a piece of plastic over her V. Everything felt very mechanical too. It was not a great experience, but it was all I knew as far as sex went. It was were I lost my virginity.
When I got to Montreal and experienced the level of service and intimacy I could receive there, I was blown away. Haven't looked towards anywhere else since. Not to mention I don't have to fly 9 hours over the ocean to get there. Which is a big plus.
Very overwhelming experience. Everything was covered. I even had to DATY a girl with a piece of plastic over her V. Everything felt very mechanical too. It was not a great experience, but it was all I knew as far as sex went. It was were I lost my virginity.
When I got to Montreal and experienced the level of service and intimacy I could receive there, I was blown away. Haven't looked towards anywhere else since. Not to mention I don't have to fly 9 hours over the ocean to get there. Which is a big plus.
I suppose it depends on how you define "a lot". Obviously there are (quite a few) places in Montreal where numerous ladies are available at the same time.
VIVE as I mentioned to u I thought wasn’t all it was built up to be, for me @ least. I went on a Friday night and frankly thought I saw hotter chics as I ate with buddies @ San Miguel’s super Mercado. Most of the chics in ViVE were not spanish. I kinda like the idea of being able to read reviews before seeing someone.
We we still have to get you to RIO!
We we still have to get you to RIO!
Patron -
Because being in a big room loaded with attractive young women, attractively dressed and looking their best, smiling at you and wanting your attention, happy to talk with you, and ready to have sex with you (just for parting with some cash).... is a THRILL.
At least when the quantity and quality and attitudes are good. IMO any hobbyist who has not experienced this has not fully experienced the hobby.
I had several trips to Montreal in the past year. I think it's out of my system for a bit, at least until late in the year. Next trip I am looking to return South to one of several cities that have clubs like this.
I went to Vive Madrid back in 2013. Just did the half hour sessions for 110 Euro. I think it's 125 now. 2 good sessions incl bbbj, one bad session. Did my first and only ever chick from Moldovia there. It was fun. But I like the clubs in Central and South America better. For 300 or so, I can pick out my date who would be a very good looking latina in her twenties, have dinner and/or go clubbing for awhile, then multi-hours or TLN at my hotel. Very different scene than Montreal.
Because being in a big room loaded with attractive young women, attractively dressed and looking their best, smiling at you and wanting your attention, happy to talk with you, and ready to have sex with you (just for parting with some cash).... is a THRILL.
At least when the quantity and quality and attitudes are good. IMO any hobbyist who has not experienced this has not fully experienced the hobby.
I had several trips to Montreal in the past year. I think it's out of my system for a bit, at least until late in the year. Next trip I am looking to return South to one of several cities that have clubs like this.
I went to Vive Madrid back in 2013. Just did the half hour sessions for 110 Euro. I think it's 125 now. 2 good sessions incl bbbj, one bad session. Did my first and only ever chick from Moldovia there. It was fun. But I like the clubs in Central and South America better. For 300 or so, I can pick out my date who would be a very good looking latina in her twenties, have dinner and/or go clubbing for awhile, then multi-hours or TLN at my hotel. Very different scene than Montreal.
I like FKKs. I like Montreal a lot too! I don't worry about anyone winning these debates though, because what's the upside? If you convince other mongers that your location is the best, you're just inviting more competition. I'd much rather "lose" these debates and have less competition.
She's gorgeous! Looks a little like porn star Kendra Sunderland. 1800 DKK is actually much less than I expected. Stil, about 150% the price of a Canadian girl... phew!
The more mongers a market gets, the more jerks show up, the harder it is to book dates, the more expensive things get. I see zero upside in promoting anything I like to strangers.
Interesting. Never looked @ it like that. Always figured you’ll get cockroaches coming in no matter where you go. Can’t avoid them. I agree, it doesn’t make sense to debate one place is better than the other. I always say “this is how shit runs in this place, you make your decision if you wanna visit and if it’s for you.” I always say I had the time of my life in Vienna, but things are expensive and there is upselling for a BBBJ even. It’s just how things run there. But the service I got was pretty great.
FIW, I paid ABG $100 US for a day of introducing me to the Sampa clinica and bar scene when I was there late last year. He drives you around, translates, helps you negotiate etc. I have zero Porto but I’m not a friaidy cat about traveling abroad. I consider it worthwhile for a total newbie. He is in tight with Vani but will take you other venues if you ask. I’m sure he gets some consideration in money or pussy from some clinicas. One of the big advantage to going to Tangara for example with ABG the first time as a foreign newbie is you won’t get ripped off and will be treated as a native on return visits.
He charges $120 US for the same service to go to the boites plus he expects you to pay the entrance/consumption. He’s a charming guy, FULL of knowledge but after he’s shown you the ropes I don’t think you really need him except to have a buddy. When I go back I’ll use his services for one day but mostly because he’s a great guy. He pays for his own girls of course. His libido at his age is inspiring.
I think his bias against boites is, seen from a local girl quality perspective, it’s way overpriced but even he will admit that you have better hair, makeup, dresses and shoes if you’re into that. I think he’s also a little uncomfortable with running up your food/drink bill at a place like scandallos and he’s an honorable guy.
protagoras I miss suigeneris on the blue board! I kick myself that I missed the Help/Madahos/Black era. Any other world class venues like that I shouldn’t miss? Vive/Pygmalion in Madrid and a return to Globe/afrodesia is on tapfor the summer.
He charges $120 US for the same service to go to the boites plus he expects you to pay the entrance/consumption. He’s a charming guy, FULL of knowledge but after he’s shown you the ropes I don’t think you really need him except to have a buddy. When I go back I’ll use his services for one day but mostly because he’s a great guy. He pays for his own girls of course. His libido at his age is inspiring.
I think his bias against boites is, seen from a local girl quality perspective, it’s way overpriced but even he will admit that you have better hair, makeup, dresses and shoes if you’re into that. I think he’s also a little uncomfortable with running up your food/drink bill at a place like scandallos and he’s an honorable guy.
protagoras I miss suigeneris on the blue board! I kick myself that I missed the Help/Madahos/Black era. Any other world class venues like that I shouldn’t miss? Vive/Pygmalion in Madrid and a return to Globe/afrodesia is on tapfor the summer.
Thank you for your very informative post Cababusco.
I've learned a lot of information concerning ABG's rate and it makes a lot of sense.
As far as I'm concerned I'll never come back on International Sex Guide Forum: Sui Generis is dead and so is Xana-Town, my nick on GPGuia.... Now, I am a very occasional hobbyist. I am somewhere else in my life...
I've learned a lot of information concerning ABG's rate and it makes a lot of sense.
As far as I'm concerned I'll never come back on International Sex Guide Forum: Sui Generis is dead and so is Xana-Town, my nick on GPGuia.... Now, I am a very occasional hobbyist. I am somewhere else in my life...
NYC**** - Lear Talent is great, BDJgirlsny is good but at $300 (1/2 hr) and $400 (hour) price point, Diamond Desires UK is cheap but average, open late, use when in a pinch after leaving a bar at midnight.
Playa Del Carmen*** - I hate negotiating but you can get Playa Escorts down to $250-$300 in a jacuzzi room. Girls are fine but you must insist on BBBJ when you arrive. Not all girls are GFE. But after a day on the beach and at the pool bar, it’s good action.
Costa Rica**** - fun, but CBJ seemed standard with some of the hotties.
St Maarten - I’ve had some good times, but lots of CBJ offerings until you insist on BBBJ. Dirt cheap for hot girls. The only time I did a five hour appointment.
New Orleans*** - Christopher’s Cuties is pretty good after a night on Bourbon
North New Jersey**** - second only to Montreal, but sometimes better. MyBeautifulVixens is good ($250/$320), GS Starlets and Nina’s Private is cheap but ok. But...but...XOC.ch is off the charts. $300 hour on weekends. $360 for established clients other times. Jaw dropping talent. My go-to
Montreal****** - Very good, not what it was. But it’s still the North America capital for hobbying.
Miami** - I’ve been so disappointed by talent in this city. Outcall is outrageously expensive. Maybe I just picked wrong
Lauderdale*** - I haven’t been in awhile but talent is better than Miami, and cheaper. But still a yawn for me.
LA* - the worst! Phony and lots of ripoffs. Just avoid and hit a strip club.
Playa Del Carmen*** - I hate negotiating but you can get Playa Escorts down to $250-$300 in a jacuzzi room. Girls are fine but you must insist on BBBJ when you arrive. Not all girls are GFE. But after a day on the beach and at the pool bar, it’s good action.
Costa Rica**** - fun, but CBJ seemed standard with some of the hotties.
St Maarten - I’ve had some good times, but lots of CBJ offerings until you insist on BBBJ. Dirt cheap for hot girls. The only time I did a five hour appointment.
New Orleans*** - Christopher’s Cuties is pretty good after a night on Bourbon
North New Jersey**** - second only to Montreal, but sometimes better. MyBeautifulVixens is good ($250/$320), GS Starlets and Nina’s Private is cheap but ok. But...but...XOC.ch is off the charts. $300 hour on weekends. $360 for established clients other times. Jaw dropping talent. My go-to
Montreal****** - Very good, not what it was. But it’s still the North America capital for hobbying.
Miami** - I’ve been so disappointed by talent in this city. Outcall is outrageously expensive. Maybe I just picked wrong
Lauderdale*** - I haven’t been in awhile but talent is better than Miami, and cheaper. But still a yawn for me.
LA* - the worst! Phony and lots of ripoffs. Just avoid and hit a strip club.
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