Jacques Martin of the Florida Panthers will be the new Habs coach.
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/breaking-news/story/1076062.html
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/breaking-news/story/1076062.html
Who should the next habs coach be?
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bond_james_bond said:
Welcome back to an ultra-defensive system of play like in the days of Jacques Lemaire and Pat Burns.
Bad new for the fans, good news for Carey Price.
Seem like a great choice, as montreal dosen't have a powefull attack, and Price definately need to be help. I know he is young and blablabla but people had great expection from him and for the moment he is not delivering, being more concern to do party, get drunk and such...
Personally i will say i am happy to give Martin a try...
Personally i will say i am happy to give Martin a try...
Give the man a break.Lets see what kind of player he will get from Bob Gainey then will start bitchingG1GBallday said:Welcome back to an ultra-defensive system of play like in the days of Jacques Lemaire and Pat Burns.
Bad new for the fans, good news for Carey Price.
Relax Voyager, no one is bitching yet.
All I'm saying is that defensive Hockey is boring to watch however it does win games ie. the Lemaire and Burns' teams. A good fast paced game with lots of scoring, even if it results in a loss, is more entertaining.
Again it's great news for Carey Price who will see much less rubber sent his way next year. Rolland Melanson was also let go today so it should be interesting to see who his replacement will be.
All I'm saying is that defensive Hockey is boring to watch however it does win games ie. the Lemaire and Burns' teams. A good fast paced game with lots of scoring, even if it results in a loss, is more entertaining.
Again it's great news for Carey Price who will see much less rubber sent his way next year. Rolland Melanson was also let go today so it should be interesting to see who his replacement will be.
bond_james_bond said:
an excellent choice ! Jacques is experienced and should be especially good with developing the younger players - could Bouwmeester be far behind?
GHG, You're alive!!!
As Mike Farber said...it's the yawn of a new era.
But what the hell, I'll give him a chance. Can't get any worse. I hope. Let's see what the team looks like after the draft and who we gain or lose in free agency. Besides, if the team is sold all bets are off and we could end up with an entire new coaching and management staff anyways. Unlikely, but possible nonetheless.
We are still in wait and see mode so I guess I'll just wait and see!
As Mike Farber said...it's the yawn of a new era.
But what the hell, I'll give him a chance. Can't get any worse. I hope. Let's see what the team looks like after the draft and who we gain or lose in free agency. Besides, if the team is sold all bets are off and we could end up with an entire new coaching and management staff anyways. Unlikely, but possible nonetheless.
We are still in wait and see mode so I guess I'll just wait and see!
bond_james_bond said:
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Great News! For Leafs Fans that is, and this is another "Step" in Toronto's quest to get to the Top as it could very well possibly be a set back for the habs, although last season's Habs fiasco (as well as the last "5 year Gainey Plan", that worked out well didnt it ) wont be to hard to top for Burke and the Leafs.....
Lets see ole Jacque's track record, Toronto sent him packing his bags from the rich hockey history of the north east to sunny warm florida to retire gracefully, looks like he didnt learn his lesson, and it will be fun kicking his team around the next several years as Toronto climbs the hill and montreal stumbles downward on that same hill ....... GO LEAFS GO!
) wont be to hard to top for Burke and the Leafs.....Lets see ole Jacque's track record, Toronto sent him packing his bags from the rich hockey history of the north east to sunny warm florida to retire gracefully, looks like he didnt learn his lesson, and it will be fun kicking his team around the next several years as Toronto climbs the hill and montreal stumbles downward on that same hill
....... GO LEAFS GO!
bond_james_bond said:
they should offer the goalies coaching job to Sir Patrick Roy!
G1GBallday said:Relax Voyager, no one is bitching yet.
All I'm saying is that defensive Hockey is boring to watch however it does win games ie. the Lemaire and Burns' teams. A good fast paced game with lots of scoring, even if it results in a loss, is more entertaining.
Again it's great news for Carey Price who will see much less rubber sent his way next year. Rolland Melanson was also let go today so it should be interesting to see who his replacement will be.
Alright event tought i agree there is better teams than the habs, toronto is not a thread, far from it, toronto compare to the habs is garbage...lol I DO AGREE habs need to do something, but toronto are still at the "what the hell"period about there 2-3-4 i don"t remember years they miss the playofff....leags are the ford tempo of hockey...a big garbage....lol
lgna69xxx said:
For Roy, such a move would be a step backwards. If he'll ever move over to the NHL, it's more than likely that it would be as a coach or GM (or ass't GM).
lgna69xxx said:
So you think he refused the GM and coaching job with Colorado because he was holding out to be the goalie coach in Montreal.
You can always count on a Leaf fan for a good laugh.
Doc Holliday said:Your hockey knowledge is simply astonishing!!
I was just really drunk when i writed that
therefore why i made so typing error and such, but the overall intention was true, leafs are like the trashers, the islanders and such right now, they are in the "bottom team" category.
absolutely, why not? keeps him close to home, to his kids, to his "other team he owns" and gives him a handle on the habs talent that he will be taking over in a yr or 2 shall martin fail...... makes lots of sense
G1GBallday said:So you think he refused the GM and coaching job with Colorado because he was holding out to be the goalie coach in Montreal.
You can always count on a Leaf fan for a good laugh.
Yawn of a new era
Habs naming Martin as coach is nothing to get excited about by Steve Simmons
Jacques Martin is everything the Montreal Canadiens are not -- and never have been.
They are blue, blanc et rouge. He is vanilla.
They are the home of firewagon hockey. He is the neutral-zone trap.
They are emotion and excitement and everything that encompasses the city of Montreal. He represents the yawn of a new era.
They are known for success. He is a epitome of the first-round playoff elimination.
They are the kings of the off-day press conference. He is equally dull in both of Canada's official languages.
The hiring of Martin yesterday is quizzical in so many ways it almost defies logic. We know it was hard for general manager Bob Gainey to find someone less interesting than he is, but he actually managed to do just that. In some ways, Gainey hired a safer, less interesting, less communicative, version of himself to coach hockey's most decorated team.
You've seen the movie Dumb & Dumber? Now meet the Montreal hockey hierarchy: Dull & Duller.
And let's be honest here, the only reason Martin got the job is because he happens to speak the right language. No one else would have considered him to coach. No one else, when making a list and checking it twice, would have sat back and said "Why not Jacques Martin?"
Better question: Why Jacques Martin?
Look at this another way: It took Pat Quinn, who spanked Martin playoff year after playoff year, whose resume is significantly stronger, all kinds of time to get back behind an NHL bench. Quinn was out in the wilderness until his old buddy, Steve Tambellini, rescued him.
Martin was in Florida as general manager, which is almost the wilderness except it happens to be close to an outlet mall -- the only real reason to go see the Panthers play. Martin gets paroled from the mess that is the Panthers and winds up back behind the most scrutinized of all benches.
Did the Habs ever consider Quinn to replace Guy Carbonneau? No, because language means more than coaching in this time of political correctness.
In six playoff seasons in Toronto, Quinn won 39 games, 12 against Ottawa. In eight playoff seasons in Ottawa, Martin won 31 games, five against Toronto. Quinn won more playoff series than he lost. Martin lost twice as many playoff series as he won.
Gainey, who usually makes good sense of the complicated, tried to explain the logic behind the hiring of Martin at the afternoon news conference and didn't exactly succeed: "We move Montreal as a market place, if that's the right word," Gainey said. "But when it comes to the demands and expectations and pressures I think Jacques had already proven that's well within his capacity to handle."
Proven how, he didn't say. In Ottawa, he specialized in strangling the creativity of his players and frustrating reporters with his inability to answer the most basic of questions. But this is what Les Glorieux is reduced to now. Martin isn't the worst coach out there but he certainly isn't the best. The Habs won't allow themselves to hire the best anymore. They hire the bilingual. When you search only for bilingual, a short list of qualified candidates gets even shorter.
That's the only way you get to Martin.
He coached the Ottawa Senators for almost eight seasons, and in his final six years in Ottawa, his teams averaged more than 100 points a season. In four of those years, the Sens were eliminated in the first round of the playoffs. Once they got to the second round, once to the conference finals. And even Michel Therrien, he of the expired shelf life, wound up in a Stanley Cup final.
Martin had the team to get there: He just didn't get them there.
The modern coach needs to be creative, communicative, inspiring and encouraging, everything Martin is not. He is textbook instead of novel, button down instead of open collar.
He may make the Canadiens less interesting -- in both official languages.
Habs naming Martin as coach is nothing to get excited about by Steve Simmons
Jacques Martin is everything the Montreal Canadiens are not -- and never have been.
They are blue, blanc et rouge. He is vanilla.
They are the home of firewagon hockey. He is the neutral-zone trap.
They are emotion and excitement and everything that encompasses the city of Montreal. He represents the yawn of a new era.
They are known for success. He is a epitome of the first-round playoff elimination.
They are the kings of the off-day press conference. He is equally dull in both of Canada's official languages.
The hiring of Martin yesterday is quizzical in so many ways it almost defies logic. We know it was hard for general manager Bob Gainey to find someone less interesting than he is, but he actually managed to do just that. In some ways, Gainey hired a safer, less interesting, less communicative, version of himself to coach hockey's most decorated team.
You've seen the movie Dumb & Dumber? Now meet the Montreal hockey hierarchy: Dull & Duller.
And let's be honest here, the only reason Martin got the job is because he happens to speak the right language. No one else would have considered him to coach. No one else, when making a list and checking it twice, would have sat back and said "Why not Jacques Martin?"
Better question: Why Jacques Martin?
Look at this another way: It took Pat Quinn, who spanked Martin playoff year after playoff year, whose resume is significantly stronger, all kinds of time to get back behind an NHL bench. Quinn was out in the wilderness until his old buddy, Steve Tambellini, rescued him.
Martin was in Florida as general manager, which is almost the wilderness except it happens to be close to an outlet mall -- the only real reason to go see the Panthers play. Martin gets paroled from the mess that is the Panthers and winds up back behind the most scrutinized of all benches.
Did the Habs ever consider Quinn to replace Guy Carbonneau? No, because language means more than coaching in this time of political correctness.
In six playoff seasons in Toronto, Quinn won 39 games, 12 against Ottawa. In eight playoff seasons in Ottawa, Martin won 31 games, five against Toronto. Quinn won more playoff series than he lost. Martin lost twice as many playoff series as he won.
Gainey, who usually makes good sense of the complicated, tried to explain the logic behind the hiring of Martin at the afternoon news conference and didn't exactly succeed: "We move Montreal as a market place, if that's the right word," Gainey said. "But when it comes to the demands and expectations and pressures I think Jacques had already proven that's well within his capacity to handle."
Proven how, he didn't say. In Ottawa, he specialized in strangling the creativity of his players and frustrating reporters with his inability to answer the most basic of questions. But this is what Les Glorieux is reduced to now. Martin isn't the worst coach out there but he certainly isn't the best. The Habs won't allow themselves to hire the best anymore. They hire the bilingual. When you search only for bilingual, a short list of qualified candidates gets even shorter.
That's the only way you get to Martin.
He coached the Ottawa Senators for almost eight seasons, and in his final six years in Ottawa, his teams averaged more than 100 points a season. In four of those years, the Sens were eliminated in the first round of the playoffs. Once they got to the second round, once to the conference finals. And even Michel Therrien, he of the expired shelf life, wound up in a Stanley Cup final.
Martin had the team to get there: He just didn't get them there.
The modern coach needs to be creative, communicative, inspiring and encouraging, everything Martin is not. He is textbook instead of novel, button down instead of open collar.
He may make the Canadiens less interesting -- in both official languages.
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