I know this is common and I'm ok with it since we should all respect what we're allowed to do a not to do. Why do some SP's not like DFK or its a restriction? Is it because of the fear that our mouth's and tongues taste like onions or cheese? I mean don't get me wrong, I like eating food, but I always brush my teeth and use mouthwash before I get my worm into action.
Why so some SP's not like DFK or its restriction?
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your worm? lol
Kissing is the most ymmv service, even more than bbbj afaic. It is a very intimate affair. Not surprising it is not always offered.
I always found it very strange that some consider kissing as so intimate and reserved for loved ones yet most will suck dick and some even ass at the same time.
Guess women are wired different. I could maybe see me losing control and kissing a woman ( even that didn’t happen) while in a relationship but eating pussy and ass nope that would be reserved for the one I am in love with.
Then again my values are way too old fashioned. I will always be a romantic and believe in love and not cheating on your partner.
Good question. For me it is not really the absence of kissing but the lack of transparency sometimes. Like when someone is advertised as a GFE provider and only after you're there and already took your shower then you realize that it is not offered, despite having good hygiene. And I'm not even a huge fan or DFK (at least what I call DFK, because I realized the definition may vary from one person to another).
This is one of the reasons I rarely book unreviewed SPs. I will research reviews thoroughly and if I do book a SP will ask her directly. DFK is the most important part of the session for me. No DFK = No booking.
I know what you mean but sometimes reviewed girls who are known for kissing will still deny it. It has happened to me.
For instance there was this girl from an agency who provided small pecks on the lips the first time I met her. Almost a year after we met again (she didn't remember me apparently), out of nowhere she started kissing and used her tongue. The third time we met I tried to initiate it and she dodged. Some people claimed they always got DFK from her. I know for a fact I don't have poor hygiene, including oral hygiene.
In fact, when I got into this hobby kissing was the last thing I was thinking about. Until few years ago it was always the providers who initiated the kissing, sometimes ferociously. Even in some of my more recent sessions it was the girls who took it from LFK to DFK with active tongue.
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Kissing is seen as more romantic than sexual by a lot of people, so it's not surprising to me that some SP's don't want to do it.
Also, not everyone likes DFK, some people just like LFK.
I offer DFK now but I like to clarify that the client needs to have good hygiene.
Sometimes it's not so much about the hygiene but the way that it's done, it has to be worked up to and done a certain way for it to be pleasant.
If you shove your tongue down the person's throat they more than likely won't do it. Pay attention to how your partner responds instead of copying what they do in porn, and you'll probably be fine.
Also, not everyone likes DFK, some people just like LFK.
I offer DFK now but I like to clarify that the client needs to have good hygiene.
Sometimes it's not so much about the hygiene but the way that it's done, it has to be worked up to and done a certain way for it to be pleasant.
If you shove your tongue down the person's throat they more than likely won't do it. Pay attention to how your partner responds instead of copying what they do in porn, and you'll probably be fine.
Maybe terms like GFE and PSE need to be standardized because to me GFE never included DFK.
I do it with some but not with everyone and sometimes I may start doing it and realize I don’t like it with that person and vice versa.
You're right, if that could be standardized for more clarity it would be great. Transparency is the key for me. But can we realistically expect a standarization? Not sure unfortunately.
Quick example : I saw a tweet from an indy in response to a SP who was shaming GFE providers because she taught sharing fluids such as saliva and pre-cum was nasty and dirty. Her response implied that it was not ok to judge SPs who are comfortable with that, including herself.
But another indy on this forum said that GFE only means intercourse and that it is simply being used not to be explicit.
Anytime I looked it up the definition did include kissing but again, what kissing means may vary from one person to another.
I'm not very big on DFK as I said (at least what I call DFK). Just some decent LFK is good for me.
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Kissing is a different kind of intimacy that not everyone is comfortable with giving.
We are often expected to give the sexual gratification, but some retain the romantic aspects for personal relationships, and to not make their time with their life partner feel like they are just another client when getting intimate with them.
I'm on cloud's side about it though.
No kissing = no booking.
We are often expected to give the sexual gratification, but some retain the romantic aspects for personal relationships, and to not make their time with their life partner feel like they are just another client when getting intimate with them.
I'm on cloud's side about it though.
No kissing = no booking.
It would eliminate a lot of misunderstanding and disappointment. Alternatively you can always have this discussion with the SP before booking.
However they’re allowed to change their mind on the spot as it is a very intimate act.
However they’re allowed to change their mind on the spot as it is a very intimate act.
Then the client has the right to decline the appointment.
I guess ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
As long as it’s before anything happens, that would be awkward but nothing more
This might be controversial but I think that SP's should have the right to not want to do DFK with a specific client even if they generally offer it. DFK requires a deeper level of chemistry in my opinion, and very often clients (and other people) don't know how to do it. It also often doesn't happen during my bookings, which isn't a result of me pushing away the client but LFK seems more natural for both of us. I think a lot of people don't know the difference which is why many of us have the impression that DFK is supposedly included in GFE.
LoL like the ones who seem to drool in excess. I'm down for kissing, I don't feel like drinking a cup or more of their saliva though
admittedly dfk becomes lfk when trying to prevent drowning.Sorry needed to inject a little bit of sick humor in here.
Yeah, some men also kiss very aggressively, pushing their tongue way too far or darting it inside your mouth. I recommend going very slowly and seeing if the person is responsive before doing anything ''intense''.LoL like the ones who seem to drool in excess. I'm down for kissing, I don't feel like drinking a cup or more of their saliva though
Sorry needed to inject a little bit of sick humor in here.
@ Fradi : You never kissed a SP ? I'm just unsure I read this right, I'm genuinely asking. I can understand never eating a SP pussy or ass, that's not for everyone. But not even some little pecks on the mouth, ever ?
Hey if that's the case, I'm not judging. To each their own. I was just so surprised reading that I had to ask.
If you've ever had someone drool into your mouth while kissing, then you'll understand why there's hesitation.
I recall seeing a movie decades ago, I believe that it was Risky Business with Tom Cruise and Rebecca De Mornay. One of the working ladies (I believe that it was Rebecca de Mornay) in the movie was with a new working girl and told her never to DFK with a John. When she asked why not, Rebecca replied that it was something you only do with your boyfriend it is very personal and you may develop feelings for the John and fall in love. I always remembered this.
DFK is something I would want with a SP during a GFE. It would not be the same experience for me without it and is usually a deciding factor on whether I would see a SP again and repeat with her.
Having said that, I know when I go into an AMP where one usually only gets the standard rub and tug, I would not expect anything else let alone DFK. However, I recently met a masseuse who began the ending by sticking her tongue down my throat and doing so in an aggressive manner for 10 -15 minutes. Bingo!
DFK is something I would want with a SP during a GFE. It would not be the same experience for me without it and is usually a deciding factor on whether I would see a SP again and repeat with her.
Having said that, I know when I go into an AMP where one usually only gets the standard rub and tug, I would not expect anything else let alone DFK. However, I recently met a masseuse who began the ending by sticking her tongue down my throat and doing so in an aggressive manner for 10 -15 minutes. Bingo!
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