WWII and why USA and Europe are so different

[azzaro]

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It is obvious to those who know a bit of history as to why Europe and USA are so different in terms of sex and socialization among other things (Yes it trickles down from the effects of WW2).

This fact is LOST on most Americans and Canadians.

I would like to have a discussion on this.

 

[Bbw hunter]

I love history and watch a lot of WW2 documentaries. What are you talking about exactly? Sorry but the point of your discussion sounds pretty vague.

 

[azzaro]

Europe had to rebuild including most pf London and Germany after WWII. Europeans know 1st hand the effects of war. North Americans don't..and it all trickles down from that.

Europeans socialize more because they want to be more "aware" of differences. ..and take time to enjoy life more than people here in USA/Canada. Plus travel more within Europe ...agree?

 

[Fradi]

It started with the war.

Europeans learned to enjoy life for today because there may not be a tomorrow.
They appreciated being together and enjoying each other’s company, families friends formed stronger bonds.
There attitude towards having a good time and enjoying sex grew out of this.
People living today in North America have never had a war or revolution in their own backyard they never had to endure this.
They have no idea what it is like. Yes they may have fought in it but then went home and didn’t have to live in the ruins left by the war.
In Europe it is not you have turned 18 now your on your own kid type of life even today.

I see things changing however more with Europe also, there is more planning for the future, more squirrelling away for your retirement and more and more keeping up with the joneses attitude creeping in.
Unfortunately I see Europe becoming more like North America slowly rather than the other way around.

That is why I choose to live in Canada/Montreal this is as close as you can get to a European lifestyle but with a better cost of living.

 

[CLOUD 500]

The main reason why USA and Europe are so different is due to conservatism and the bible. When America was founded it was based on liberty and freedom but then during the early 20th century conservatism began to grow and gain a foothold. It started when politicians and businessmen collaborated to oppose the liberalism of Franklin D. Roosevelt. After WW2 the movement gained strength. Reagan solidified the model of social conservatism, it focused on traditional family values and Judeo-Christian morality. Compared to the Europe, over 50% of Americans say that religion is very important to them, in the US mixing politics with religion is very common but in Europe that is very taboo, many Europeans are atheists, in the US going to church is a way of socializing where in Europe very few go to church. Americans are prudes again thanks to religion and conservatism. They view sexuality as a big taboo. Americans are prudes. For instance a high percentage of Americans think sex between unmarried adults as morally unacceptable just over 30% which is much higher then Europe. Now the biggest difference is with prostitution. While many European countries have legalized prostitution or just decriminalized or not being enforced, the US is the most hostile environment on this planet for prostitution. It is so strictly enforced it is seen as the biggest sin. Getting a gun is far easier. One the reasons why I will personally never live in the US. I visit Europe and if I had to move from Montreal I would go to Europe. It fits with my social values. I believe in social liberty free from social behavior enforcement based from the bible and I believe the church has no place with the state.

 

[No_Church_InThe_Wild]

I’m no expert on the matter as I’m out of my depth here as to why the USA and Europe are so different in terms of sex and socialization and whether WWII was one of the main reasons for that
. And even though Fradi brings up some great points after reading CLOUD500 ‘s post it’s most likely religion and conservatism but I’m more than curious to know what if WWII was fought in the Americas and the continent was left in similar ruins as in Europe would that have made a difference? Would they have been more similar today?

 

[EagerBeaver]

Europe had to rebuild including most pf London and Germany after WWII. Europeans know 1st hand the effects of war. North Americans don't..and it all trickles down from that.

Did the US Civil War not happen 80 years earlier? Wasn't Atlanta burned to the ground by Sherman, and all of the railroads in the South destroyed? Sorry but not sure I follow your WWII analogy. WWII was 80 years ago and the Civil War was 80 years before WWII.

 

[hungry101]

Yes, Amazing:

WWII - Europe - Countries ruined so they said lets all have free sex. We got no country so we might as well have sex. Men get free sex from women so they won't cry about losing body parts, comrades, families, buildings, etc.

WWII - USA - We won so why have free sex?

Yes, I get it . Makes perfect sense to me.

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

https://www.eupedia.com/europe/cultural_differences_europe_usa.shtml


This was also the same before the wars, just the way of life over there.

 

[hungry101]

Don’t kid yourself folks, or believe too much propaganda. Life ain’t that much different every where else, andvtge grass isn’t that much greener on the other side.

I couldn't read the 2nd article. I read the first and third. It seems that this is a good way for the State to earn money. Feign that you are concerned for the welfare of these poor women and then seize all their assets. Incidentally, why don't they just go work at Burger King? There's talk of a 15$ minimum wage? When these girl make all this money they just spend it on designer clothing and accessories and, as I noted in one of my latest posts, they dine at posh restaurants. They can eat much healthier than this. Etc. This is good that the state stepped in and took the 18,000 Pounds Sterling. How else do you fund the welfare state?

 

[azzaro]

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Some MERB members are more Europe-savvy than others for sure. You have to travel extensively in Europe to be able to form any opinions about the differences (stemming from WWII in most cases).

I have traveled extensively there in the past few years. Irish-Romanian case is an anomaly (rare) in Ireland. I saw thousands of East European girls working in Ireland.

Brexit was the result of Eastern Europeans working (including escorting) in the UK to a great extent. UK govt did not like that.

Most Europeans (including Romanian) girls - working in Europe - speak 3 to 5 languages as well which leads to some very "interesting" socialization situations in clubs etc. Sex is always the reason for going to these clubs. A lot of times only the locals know. Like in Kiev...I was showed around by a local. I participated a dozen times in these "mingling places" in Hungary, Bulgaria, Portugal, Germany and Spain (on my own).

For Romanian girls it's a niche job that they can easily do in most European countries (most like it it seems as well, because of the money). Why weren't there any Irish incall-brothels there?. The reason is simple. Too close to home. I was told this by girls-escorts in 22 different countries in Europe (non-Romanians).

 

[hungry101]

What are you smoking? :der:

 

[jalimon]

haha Azzaro is smoking good stuff but frankly I do agree with him on many of his views. Except for this thread

I do not see any correlation between world war and difference from USA and Europe.

I have no clue why USA and anglo canadians are so fucking prude. I tend to agree with Cloud explanation below.

Now why is Quebec so different? Well Quebec was populated mostly by ex-prisonners, lightly retarded expatriate and "filles du roi" which means whores.
Which is, if you ask me, the absolute perfect mix to have a great party haha

Cheers,

 

[CLOUD 500]

I do not see any correlation between world war and difference from USA and Europe.

I have no clue why USA and anglo canadians are so fucking prude. I tend to agree with Cloud explanation below.

Now why is Quebec so different? Well Quebec was populated mostly by ex-prisonners, lightly retarded expatriate and "filles du roi" which means whores.


Cheers,

Quebec is the most atheist province in all of North America. We have the highest percentage of non believers which is why Quebec was always and still is the most liberal social values place. The biggest distinction for Quebec is the language and European influence. While the rest of Canada seems to follow the US example, Quebec follows more the France example. WW2 seemed to be the gelling point for the conservative movement. It saw the start of neoliberalism and social conservatism. I do not know why. The 1920's is when the movement began.

 

[Bred Sob]

Now why is Quebec so different? Well Quebec was populated mostly by ex-prisonners, lightly retarded expatriate and "filles du roi" which means whores.

Nice theory. The only problem is that apparently none of that is true.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King's_Daughters#Rumours_and_legends

 

[Bred Sob]

Quebec is the most atheist province in all of North America. We have the highest percentage of non believers which is why Quebec was always and still is the most liberal social values place.

Thank you for this newsflash from the parallel universe. In this universe, though, Quebec appears to be second to last in Canada.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irreligion_in_Canada#Irreligion_by_province

 

[jalimon]

Nice theory. The only problem is that apparently none of that is true.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King's_Daughters#Rumours_and_legends

Shit you ruined it! Ok now why are quebec french girl so fucking horny? There must be a reason!!!

 

[CLOUD 500]

Thank you for this newsflash from the parallel universe. In this universe, though, Quebec appears to be second to last in Canada.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irreligion_in_Canada#Irreligion_by_province

Thanks for your newsflash from your own parallel universe. In this universe though, I was referring to religion involved with politics and Quebec is moving with Bill 21 towards a secular state. They also removed the crucifex from the national assembly. Thanks for the lesson though.

 

[Bred Sob]

I was referring to religion involved with politics and Quebec is moving with Bill 21 towards a secular state.

Nice try. And this is what you were referring to in reality: "We have the highest percentage of non believers". Bullshitometer is redlining.

 

[CLOUD 500]

Nice try. And this is what you were referring to in reality: "We have the highest percentage of non believers". Bullshitometer is redlining.

Quebec has been the most secular province but the recent influx of immigrants changed the tides by a lot and this change was recent I would say around 2013. Quebecors are still in general atheist but when you factor in the mass influx of immigrants which are predominantly Arabic and Indian who are very religious and are very socially conservative. Quebec politics are still being runned by Quebecors who are in general atheist. Quebec politics are not mixed with religion. That link you quoted does not paint the whole picture. You like to distort reality by posting links that favor your right-wing agenda by not putting the full picture. Nice try though. Tell someone else that does not know better. I know better. Contard meter is redlining. Me I am done. Good bye.