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    Can Women Rape Women: Yes, and Boys Too

    Hello all,

    I saw something that made me think about this then I looked to see what information there was on the web. You almost never hear about this, and I can't think of any case where I have. But, it turns out men and women are the same in more ways than we realize. So, what do you think?

    http://www.ourbodiesourselves.org/bo...id=8&compID=95

    Violence and Abuse
    Woman-Woman Rape

    I kept it to myself because it was an embarrassing thing: I was bigger than she was....When people hear about rape, they think of a man raping a woman. It's hard to envision one woman raping another.

    Although the majority of rapes are committed by men, women can and do rape.1 As with sexual assaults committed by men, the perpetrator may be a partner, an acquaintance, or a stranger, and it can happen to any woman, regardless of her sexual orientation.

    last summer i was raped by a butch i met from a website. we had been talking online for months…i went to see hym….one thing led to another, and i ended up in the hospital having surgery to repair a 3 inch tear inside my vagina. hy fisted me, with no glove and no lube, the way one would put their hand through a wall.

    The experiences of women who are sexually assaulted by other women are not widely enough known or discussed. This silence makes it harder for those of us who are sexually assaulted by women to get appropriate health care and support. Service providers, media, educators, and assault survivors can help end this silence by talking more openly about this abuse.

    Legally, definitions of rape and sexual assault differ from state to state. Some states define rape as an act perpetrated by a man against a woman. Others use an inclusive definition of sexual assault that does not state the sex of the victim or perpetrator and that lists a range of behaviors such as penetration by object, fingers, or penis.

    Because of the widespread ignorance and denial surrounding sexual assault of women by women, those of us who are abused by other women may experience a different sort of shock than women who are raped by men. We also may feel that no one will believe us, and therefore be reluctant to seek help.

    The next summer I reread my journal, and still remembered the parts that I had erased, hoping it would go away. It hit me that what had happened was rape. I was furious as all hell.

    If we are raped by a woman and are not lesbian or bisexual, we may fear that people will assume we are gay. Those of us who are lesbian, gay, bisexual, or transgendered (LGBT) and are raped by a partner or acquaintance are often even more reluctant to use the court system. Fear of homophobia and transphobia, having to be “out” in court, and a history of bad relations with police keep many LGBT individuals away from seeking legal redress.

    Women who are sexually assaulted by women experience the same short-term and long-term emotional consequences of the assault as women who are assaulted by men. These may include post-traumatic stress symptoms of fear, trouble sleeping, nightmares, dissociation, anxiety, and sexual problems. Sexual violence may also lead to difficulty trusting others, needing time off from work, inability to concentrate, and a host of other stress-related consequences.

    Because society does not widely recognize female-perpetrated sexual assault, women who experience it are less likely to call crisis lines or go to therapists immediately after the assault.

    I had never heard of women doing that, so it just didn't fit into my reality.

    If the sexual violence occurs within the context of an abusive relationship, the other forms of abuse may be acknowledged long before the sexual abuse is. The reluctance to talk about it and the difficulty framing this abuse as rape buries this form of abuse. If a woman gets a restraining order against her female partner, it will usually be for other forms of violence, not the sexual violence.

    Denial that we have experienced rape also can mean that women do not seek medical treatment when we need it after an assault. Some women may not be honest about how we sustained our injuries. Transwomen are especially unlikely to seek medical care due to concerns about how we will be treated by health care providers.

    Being sexually assaulted by another woman, whether a partner, acquaintance, or stranger, often causes feelings of betrayal, confusion, isolation, and self-doubt. This form of abuse must be acknowledged so that we can get the support and assistance we deserve and need.

    Sadly,

    Merlot
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    Many Cases of Rape by Women

    Hello all,

    This site contains many examples of rape by women.

    http://www.fathermag.com/news/rape/

    Sexual abuse has traditionally been seen as a crime perpetrated by men. To eliminate this possibility, all of the instances chosen for these pages are cases where women are clearly acting entirely on their own. In those instances where a male is involved, it is in every case with an unwilling or obviously underage male.

    There is no "evil man in the background" urging these women to engage in sexual abuse. In every case accepted for inclusion in this section, all evidence indicates that the women are acting on their own initiative.

    There have been many explanations offered for the startling rise in the proportion of sex crimes committed by women. These include:

    zealous prosecution of sex crimes that went unpunished in earlier times
    false accusations by spouses who want custody of children
    a change in the behavior of women
    In recent years there has been a redefinition of abuse, as well. As some of the stories in this section illustrate, the child abuse industry is now so powerful that a woman who tries to report a rape faces the risk of being charged with rape herself if her attacker turns out to be under the legal age of consent.

    This first story, however, may represent a change in the behavior of some women:

    26 JAN 1999
    STATES NEWS SERVICE

    Cops: Topless Woman Attacked Boy

    APOPKA, FLORIDA -- Deputies in Central Florida have arrested an Apopka woman accused of molesting a 14-year-old boy at a lake in Orange County. The youngster says 37-year-old Teresa M. removed her top, rubbed against him, and then pinned him to the ground with her 150-pound weight and fondled him against his will. The teen got away when the woman suggested they go for a ride in her pickup truck.

    What is Commercialized Justice? Call it Justass
    These government officials abuse their free access to the media, using it as a commercial medium to promote their career ambitions. Justice becomes Justass -- Just another stupid scam.

    BBC wins removed children ruling
    Despite court attempts to silence the victims, people who were as children removed from homes for sex abuse want authorities and therapists punished, bring lawsuits.

    Women Who Rape: The siren song of sex with boys
    This article in the New York Times cites several studies and suggests that in cases involving adolescents the term "adult adolescent sex" should replace the term "child abuse."

    Courts get tough on women who have sex with boys?
    Courts across America are cracking down on women, especially teachers, who have sex with under-age boys. In the past month at least seven women, four of them teachers, have been charged or sentenced.

    All listings are genuine news items, with the original source cited. Most stories have been shortened and have had the family names removed to protect families of the accused. For the complete story, please refer to the original source cited.

    most sadly,

    Merlot

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    I wouldnt mind being raped by a 37 year old woman if I was 14.....



    Women rape men does happen, just not as often and it hardly ever gets

    reported because of shame.

    I once had a co worker who got raped by his gf, he didnt realise it till after

    he told me his story.

    Sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by master_bates

    I once had a co worker who got raped by his gf, he didnt realise it till after

    he told me his story.

    Sad.
    That bring some questions: When is the damage done? When the act occurred or when somebody convince the "victim" there's something wrong?

    I mean, psychologically, who is causing more harm? The person committing the act without causing emotional stress to the "victim" (leaving the "victim" truly feel good, like there's nothing wrong) or the "savior" who reveal the horror of the act?

    I am NOT talking about the legal point of view or trying to justify or absolve the act here, I am only hypothetically talking about somebody who's spent years seeing nothing wrong in it's life and then who have a "savior" drop a bomb on them and telling them what happened years ago was wrong, starting at that time some psychological turmoil.

    Note I placed the words "victim" and "savior" between quotation marks, to indicate the term is used loosely.

    No, I am not implicated in any ways into such situation nor do I have anything in my past who could turn into this. I also have no plans to do anything that could change this. I am only, on a psychological point of view, logical: sometimes, what's the use of reopening old scars or causing wounds where there was never any to start with?

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    Quote Originally Posted by metoo4
    That bring some questions: When is the damage done? When the act occurred or when somebody convince the "victim" there's something wrong?

    I mean, psychologically, who is causing more harm? The person committing the act without causing emotional stress to the "victim" (leaving the "victim" truly feel good, like there's nothing wrong) or the "savior" who reveal the horror of the act?

    I am NOT talking about the legal point of view or trying to justify or absolve the act here, I am only hypothetically talking about somebody who's spent years seeing nothing wrong in it's life and then who have a "savior" drop a bomb on them and telling them what happened years ago was wrong, starting at that time some psychological turmoil.

    Note I placed the words "victim" and "savior" between quotation marks, to indicate the term is used loosely.

    No, I am not implicated in any ways into such situation nor do I have anything in my past who could turn into this. I also have no plans to do anything that could change this. I am only, on a psychological point of view, logical: sometimes, what's the use of reopening old scars or causing wounds where there was never any to start with?
    Hello Metoo4,

    Good post. But did he not feel raped because he wasn't or because of societal expectations and stigmas? Women often don't report rape because of the shame and stigma it has in society. Is it even tougher for men??? I am in no way trying to say men have it worse, so let's not start comparing notes and feelings, or getting insulted. Let's just say the crime is the same for all victims. But, in the case of men so much of society says you can't be a man without being "macho" for lack of a better word. No man is supposed to be susceptible to rape by a woman, and he's supposed to want sex or he's labeled a homosexual, or a least a "pussy".

    When it comes to women raping women I can't remember ever hearing of a case. But I'm guessing this must go on fairly frequently; maybe more than women raping men simply because of the general physical strength differences. I just wonder how much societal norms contribute to the crimes because of the stigmas associated with gender expectations. How many men and women don't report the crime of rape or abuse by women because of embarrassment and/or stigma?

    Questioning,

    Merlot

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    APOPKA, FLORIDA -- Deputies in Central Florida have arrested an Apopka woman accused of molesting a 14-year-old boy at a lake in Orange County. The youngster says 37-year-old Teresa M. removed her top, rubbed against him, and then pinned him to the ground with her 150-pound weight and fondled him against his will. The teen got away when the woman suggested they go for a ride in her pickup truck.
    Why does this stuff always seem to happen in Florida.

    Why did this stuff never happen when I was 14.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JustBob
    Why does this stuff always seem to happen in Florida.

    Why did this stuff never happen when I was 14.


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    reason for that is, everything only happens in the USA. i share the same feeling as you.... wish i were that 14 year old..lucky bastard...dam it's too late now...lol

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