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    Winter Blues: 2012 Official Offseason Baseball Thread

    Keep it free of personal insults boyz....

    Discuss trade talks, signings and all things behind the scenes this fall/winter.
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    Congrats to Robinson Cano on becoming a US Citizen today


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    Quote Originally Posted by lgna69xxx View Post
    Keep it free of personal insults boyz....

    Discuss trade talks, signings and all things behind the scenes this fall/winter.
    I guess rumples will not be participating in this thread and yes congrats to Robbie who is on his way to receiving some major coinage.

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    Blue Jays acquire Jose Reyes in monster trade with Marlins

    Josh Johnson, Mark Buerhle, Yunel Escobar, Adeiny Hechavarria, Henderson Alvarez involved in deal

    The Toronto Blue Jays appear to have solved their dilemmas at shortstop and on the mound in a monster swap with the Florida Marlins.

    According to Ken Rosenthal and Jon Morosi of Fox Sports, the Jays have acquired Jose Reyes, Josh Johnson and Mark Buerhle in exchange for Yunel Escobar, Henderson Alvarez, Adeiny Hechavarria and Justin Nicolino. More players may be involved in the deal.

    More to come.

    http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Baseball/M.../20354336.html

    Wow!! I'm shocked to see Escobar, Alvarez & Hechavarria all leaving the Jays at the same time!!! Shocked!!!

    However, i'm not surprised to see Escobar leave after the controversy last year. It looks like the Jays got some very good players to help them next season. Wow!!!!!!

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    I love this deal, that .337 batting average that Reyes had just two short years ago would give me goose bumps if I was a Blue Jays fan, Buerhle and Johnson are solid starters that will fill the rotation nicely, it definitely looks like a two horse race for the East between the Yankees and Blue Jays, meanwhile the Red Sox have been busy acquiring the living legend himself, non other than the incomparable David Ross, the Red Sox message to their fans is quite clear.

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    Typical Yankee fan in the Merb Sports Section!! Bwwaahh.

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    I have a had a change of heart, after taking a closer look at the career numbers of one David Ross I can see that this is a great pick up, acquistions like this one will help the Red Sox challenge for the East, great pick up by Boston.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe.t View Post
    I love this deal, that .337 batting average that Reyes had just two short years ago would give me goose bumps if I was a Blue Jays fan, Buerhle and Johnson are solid starters that will fill the rotation nicely....
    Now i wouldn't be surprised to see A-Rod dealt to the Marlins since they have now the cap space to accomodate his crazy over-inflated contract.

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    Wow. The big loser in this deal? The people of Miami, Florida who now know what the people of Montreal know: Jeffrey Loria is one major scum sucking pig. He has now destroyed baseball in two cities, this time after getting the taxpayers to build him a zillion dollar stadium.

    The comments in the Miami Herald suggests the folks aren't particularly happy in Miami.
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    Update on the blockbuster trade by the Jays & Marlins:

    The trade hasn't been made official yet. Now it looks like as many as 12 players might be changing teams. Latest rumor is that the Jays are sending shortstops Yunel Escobar, Adeiny Hechavarria, starting pitcher Henderson Alvarez, Jeff Mathis, as well as a trio of highly ranked prospects — Justin Nicolino, Jake Marisnick and Anthony Desclafini — to Miami in exchange for starting pitchers Josh Johnson and Mark Buerhle, shortstop Jose Reyes, catcher John Buck and utility player Emilio Bonifacio.

    More to come....

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    Quote Originally Posted by rumpleforeskiin View Post
    Wow. The big loser in this deal? The people of Miami, Florida who now know what the people of Montreal know: Jeffrey Loria is one major scum sucking pig. He has now destroyed baseball in two cities, this time after getting the taxpayers to build him a zillion dollar stadium.

    The comments in the Miami Herald suggests the folks aren't particularly happy in Miami.
    I still haven't heard anything positive about Miami's side of the trade. Heck, even the usually negative Toronto sports media even likes the trade the Jays made.

    By the way, i'm in agreement about Loria, who was one of the architects (with his step-son David Samson) for baseball's demise in Montreal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc Holliday View Post
    I still haven't heard anything positive about Miami's side of the trade.
    Why would you? There's nothing in this deal for the Marlins other than salary relief and big bux in Loria's pocket. Giancarlo Stanton is livid and wants out now, but that's not likely. The Marlins now have $0 committed for 2014.

    The Marlins got $409M in public funding (on false pretense) that will cost the city $2.4 BILLION to pay off.
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    WOW! Nice Job AA! This is EXACTLY what the Jays needed! Starting pitching and star power in Reyes! Now go get Greinke Double A!!! This makes the basement a LOCK for the red sox.

    Ohhhhhhhhhh Baby! the AL East just got better and tougher to compete in, let the games begin! (Oh man, it's only November, lol)

    Quote Originally Posted by Doc Holliday View Post
    Blue Jays acquire Jose Reyes in monster trade with Marlins

    Josh Johnson, Mark Buerhle, involved in deal


    It looks like the Jays got some very good players to help them next season. Wow!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lgna69xxx View Post
    This makes the basement a LOCK for the red sox.
    I dunno. CC Sabathia coming off elbow surgery, Phil Hughes, David Phelps ain't much of a pitching staff. No catcher, declining first baseman, declining third baseman, elderly shortstop coming off a broken leg, no right fielder, no DH. No money to spend. This looks a lot like the 1965 Yankees.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rumpleforeskiin View Post
    I dunno. CC Sabathia coming off elbow surgery, Phil Hughes, David Phelps ain't much of a pitching staff. No catcher, declining first baseman, declining third baseman, elderly shortstop coming off a broken leg, no right fielder, no DH. No money to spend. This looks a lot like the 1965 Yankees.
    I hate to say it, but everything you wrote is absolutely true. I'm also not sure that the return of Mariano Rivera is such a good thing for the club, considering the money he'll be asking & his future somewhat uncertain. So let's look on the bright side: Robinson Cano. David Robertson. Maybe Ivan Nova? The jury's still out on him. Granderson hits 30 homeruns a year, but he strikes out as much as Dave Kingman did & doesn't hit for average. Indeed, there are huge question marks in the Bronx.

    Will Russell Martin be back? Even if he does, he's not that much of an upgrade at the catching position. Maybe the Yankees should talk to another team & get them to talk to the Jays in order to set up a 3-way trade for one of their proven catchers.

    As for the Jays, i expect them to name a manager within the next two weeks. My money is on Sandy Almomar Jr., but Manny Acta could also get the nod. Both Art Howe & Ken Macha want the job, but i'm not even sure they'll be granted an interview. I heard Don Wakamatsu's name being mentionned, but i also heard he wasn't even interviewed yet. Tim Wallach remains a possibility, being interviewed twice. So does Matt Williams, who was also interviewed.

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