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Fradi

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Funny how everybody shits on the US because of the way we handled Covid and now we are getting shit on for having vaccines. Maybe China or the WHO should work on a way to vaccinate people instead of making the US out to be the bad guys all the time.
You should have been vaccinated before this pandemic started.
It is all that asshole Trumps fault.
 

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Here's some good news (at least for NYawkers) about covid vaccines. Looks like those with co morbidities can now get vaccinated. 94% of NY's covid deaths have been from people with co morbidities. Also, president Biden is on pace to exceed his 100 million vaccines in 100 days call to action. Good news for those of us living in the states.

https://www.governor.ny.gov/news/go...crease-capacity-individuals-comorbidities-and


 
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Yes that sounds nice. But good luck getting an appointment. There are plenty of people over 65 in NY who are trying to get an appointment but haven't been able to. Why give people false hope for a vacination when there isn't enough supply for people in the initial category?
I'm scheduled for the 20th. It was quite easy getting an appointment this morning. It's not false hope, and there is and has been plenty of supply for the initial categories. If I sat around and complained about it instead of sitting at my computer this morning and making it happen I wouldn't have been able to get an appointment within 6 days.
 

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You should have been vaccinated before this pandemic started.
It is all that asshole Trumps fault.
I find it bizarre the number of people who want to blame Trump for the spread of this pandemic. When will the world hold China liable for the devastation this pandemic caused? We will probably never know the real cause of it due to China's coverup. China has done nothing to help the world battle this pandemic. If this virus had originated in the U.S. and the U.S. had done the coverup China did, Trump would be brought up on charges of War crimes in the International Courts.(and rightly so.)
 

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I find it bizarre the number of people who want to blame Trump for the spread of this pandemic. When will the world hold China liable for the devastation this pandemic caused? We will probably never know the real cause of it due to China's coverup. China has done nothing to help the world battle this pandemic. If this virus had originated in the U.S. and the U.S. had done the coverup China did, Trump would be brought up on charges of War crimes in the International Courts.(and rightly so.)
Agreed. I would include the WHO in this as well. But I think Fradi was was being sarcastic.
 
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Not trying to defend China cause they did start this pandemic and tried to cover it up at first .....and even to the present.
To say they did nothing is a stretch. They did publish the genetic code to the world. They also were one of the first to manufacture a vaccine.
 

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What a piece of shit. Now here’s another reason to impeach a fucker

So true. But at least it is nice to see state Democrats and Republicans coming together to condemn Cuomo for his actions. Maybe this will be the start of some positive energy in the country.
 

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Maybe where you live. But where my relatives live in the more rural areas of NY, it has been difficult to get an appointment. and they are over 65. I think the distribution rollout has been faulty in NY and they should make sure those over 65 get the vaccination before they open it up to other people. You might find NYC has plenty of supply, but in Northern NY that is definitely not the case.
Had nothing to do with where I lived. If your eligible for the vaccine you simply go through the different locations and pick a day and time. Using your rural areas of NY analogy, I initially was able to get vaccination dates in Plattsburgh and Potsdam. I was/am willing to drive to these rural areas because I wanted to be vaccinated. Finding an available vaccine is much more difficult downstate because there's more people. In upstate NY some towns have more cows than they do people so I find it hard to believe people upstate aren't able to get a vaccine if their eligible, I was. I agree that people 65 and older should be prioritized but they been eligible for a while now so why would you want to hold up the line if they aren't showing up to get vaccinated. If people are eligible to be vaccinated in NY, they can get the vaccine. The distribution roll out has been a shit show for the entire country, not just NY. But it looks like NY has it totally under control, at least it was in my scenario.
 

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The rural area may not have capability to store some of these vaccines which requires specific frigid temps and only viable for short term I think

Which is why the J&J vaccine is gonna be huge. Can just store it in a fridge for months, should be out hopefully in 1st week of March

Novavax to come soon too, but not in Canada till summer it looks like
 

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Agreed. I would include the WHO in this as well. But I think Fradi was was being sarcastic.
I thought it was obvious, guess not lol.
I am also surprised how people seem to forget that this all started in China and they tried to cover it up at first and let their citizens spread it all over the world.
Anyone reading Merb posts would think it was manufactured in the Whitehouse by the Trump family.
 

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The rural area may not have capability to store some of these vaccines which requires specific frigid temps and only viable for short term I think

Which is why the J&J vaccine is gonna be huge. Can just store it in a fridge for months, should be out hopefully in 1st week of March

Novavax to come soon too, but not in Canada till summer it looks like
I don’t trust our POS Prime Minister.
My guess is the reason they have not approved the Astra Zenica and Johnson and Johnson vaccines is more than likely because the contracts they signed dont require them to ship until summer or 3rd or 4th quarter of 2021.
They are probably telling health Canada to delay as much as possible so they don’t get any flack for their screw up.
 

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The astra Zeneca’s data’s been conflicting, J&J’s vaccine data is pretty solid. Not sure why Biden hasn’t ordered an earlier review than the 26/2 date. Maybe I’m missing something?

Also, Bidens one million doses/day in the 1st 100 days isn’t gonna cut it, needs to get ramped up to 2 million/day and more if possible. More the reason to get the J&J vaccine pushed out. They should be turning all the NFL stadiums into not only mass vaccination but mass testing centers and also consider setting up Bam infusion sites there and offer it to those who are symptomatic, have co-morbidities and test positive with rapid antigen testing.

Is novovax still gonna be manufactured in MTL?

I think as part of the Defense production act Biden can order merk and other companies to manufacture Pfizer and Moderna vaccines, not sure why that hasn’t been implemented. Longer you dick around the more peeps get infected and mutations pop up
 
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Not trying to defend China cause they did start this pandemic and tried to cover it up at first .....and even to the present.
To say they did nothing is a stretch. They did publish the genetic code to the world. They also were one of the first to manufacture a vaccine.
Publishing the genetic code is the very least they should’ve done cloud. China should be held to account for this pandemic. They tried to cover it up in the beginning and jailed whistleblowers, then they halted all domestic travel out of Wuhan yet continued to allow international travel thus allowing it to spread all over the world.
 
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Holding them accountable I agree with 100%. I just never thought calling SARS-CoV-2 “The China Virus” accomplished that. Just emboldens shit heads on the tube to scream and attack Asians.
 
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Holding them accountable I agree with 100%. I just never thought calling SARS-CoV-2 “The China Virus” accomplished that. Just emboldens shit heads on the tube to scream and attack Asians.
The MSM called it “the Wuhan virus” early on..diseases have been named after the region where it was discovered for decades upon decades. Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever, MERS, Lyme disease, Ebola, West Nile virus, Hong Kong flu, the list goes on and on.
 

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Yea I just can’t see anyone shouting @ someone on a bus in Seattle “you Rocky Mountain mother fucker!!! Get the fuck off this bus!! Ya brought the fever!!!”

Absolutely not the same thing I feel
 
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Yea I just can’t see anyone shouting @ someone on a bus in Seattle “you Rocky Mountain mother fucker!!! Get the fuck off this bus!! Ya brought the fever!!!”

Absolutely not the same thing I feel
You think that is not happening now .
There is no vaccine for ignorance or racial prejudice.
 

The Nature Boy

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It is happening now, it happens before the pandemic, calling the virus “China virus” doesn’t help. Would u call it the “Jew Virus”? “The gypsie Virus”

Of course there will be someone saying bullshit like “I don’t think Norwegians would care if we called it the Norwegian virus if it came from there or the Belgian virus”

Not same shit
 

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Look behind you.
Viruses have been named after the place of origin for a long time, this is not a first.
12 Diseases and the Lucky Places They’re Named For | Mental Floss

As for China, does anyone really care if it hurts China's feelings with all the shit they disturb. I do understand that Biden loves the country but no need to back them.
China-Australia dispute: John Bolton says Beiing’s treatment of Australia “a sign of things to come” for the world (smh.com.au)
“The way China has treated Australia has been a clear effort to intimidate them and, by brute force, get them to back away,” Bolton said in reference to Australia’s calls for an inquiry into the origins of the coronavirus pandemic.
China was trying to separate Australia from its strategic ally the United States, just as it had attempted to do with Canada when it detained the two Michaels more than two years ago following the arrest of Huawei executive Meng Wanzhou in Vancouver, Bolton said. Meng had been detained at the request of the United States.
“It was obviously intended to split Canada from the United States, to split Australia from the United States,” he said.
"This is the way China behaves now. How are they going to behave when they become more powerful? This is a sign of things to come."
China tries to bully countries into submission using its economic might (opindia.com)
After refusing to warn the world about the seriousness of the threat and using its influence in the World Health Organisation to keep countries lax in their attitudes, China has now decided to use its economic clout to threaten the world into submission. Being the manufacturing hub of the world, it has significant leverage over other countries and the regime is fully aware that it can cripple countries if it so desires. It is with this confidence that it threatened to cut off medical supplies to the USA due to Donald Trump calling the virus the ‘Wuhan Coronavirus’. If China were to do so, USA would have been gravely hit as the overwhelming majority of essential US Drug supplies comes from China. More than 95% of all antibiotics in the US is manufactured in China. Consequently, the US President stopped calling COVID-19 the Wuhan Coronavirus.
 
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It is happening now, it happens before the pandemic, calling the virus “China virus” doesn’t help. Would u call it the “Jew Virus”? “The gypsie Virus”

Of course there will be someone saying bullshit like “I don’t think Norwegians would care if we called it the Norwegian virus if it came from there or the Belgian virus”

Not same shit
It was started in China so if you want to call it the Wuhan virus or the Chinese virus I don’t see an issue with it.
Yes I will say it is BS, instead of being so worried about being so fucking politically correct, how about acknowledging the fact that not only did these pricks start the virus, but they tried to hide it at first and while they locked down a whole province they allowed their citizens to travel internationally all over the world and caused millions of people to die and destroyed the worlds economy for going into the second year now.
Why the fuck you guys continually insist on denying this, oh wait you all manufactured your own Orange scapegoat to fill in for China.
This has got fuck all to do with racism, and obviously nothing to do with anyone of Asian origin who was not involved in the spread of this Chinese virus, this is a fact.
 
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