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I wonder how many people in this thread would be in favour of any of the below measures against unvaxed…

Having their children remove.
Being placed in detention camps.
Being evicted if they’re renting.
Being banned from leaving their homes.
They are already doing all that in China and probably N.K.
True fact..... More than 25% of Canadians support throwing the un-vaccinated into jail. I bet that figure is even higher in Europe.
 
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I wonder how many people in this thread would be in favour of any of the below measures against unvaxed…

Having their children remove.
Being placed in detention camps.
Being evicted if they’re renting.
Being banned from leaving their homes.
Really
You’re going to compare the measures of not going to restaurant. Not participating in sports. Not going to costco
To the holocaust….really…
 

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You’re going to compare the measures of not going to restaurant. Not participating in sports. Not going to costco
To the holocaust….really…
More than one in four Canadians support jail time for the unvaccinated, poll finds (msn.com)
He is asking how many people would be in favor of measures like that. He is not comparing the measures to the Holocaust. The Holocaust was not an overnight thing. It was the result a build up of hatred toward a specific group. We can also observe a similar build up toward the group "Unvaccinated". Now I do not believe it will ever end up that bad (hard to top the Holocaust in evilness), but the situation is getting really bad in terms of polarization. The Vaccine has become a political tool, and a weapon in the hands of politicians. It was only possible because of supporters for these measures. The violations to our rights are done gradually, so that each new one is digested, accepted, and then they move to the next. This way they keep the support of this group by "understanding" why the violations are being done, and believe they will be temporary, like the ruling by decree that Legault gave himself. While he keeps people focused on COVID, and deepens the divisions among the people, he goes on changing rules and regulations in whatever he sees fit, unchecked and uncontrolled. Is it possible that he reduced our health care system on purpose so that we get such a terrible situation, where he can harvest that fear to his advantage? Is he planning on becoming a Quebecois Putin?
 

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They are already doing all that in China and probably N.K.
True fact..... More than 25% of Canadians support throwing the un-vaccinated into jail. I bet that figure is even higher in Europe.
The fact this is true is very scary. How politicians and the media have successfully brainwashed people. If you keep on repeating the same message multiple times daily, people will begin to believe it.
 
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You part of this group HM?

All this talk about not respecting the rules set in place. This group is putting vulnerable people in harms way.
And like you. They don’t believe in the greater good

Im not in Montreal, you should know by now since you know me so well ;)

That said, they basically shit on this group because they give free meals without masks....outside? Huh... ? OUTSIDE? Oh well... Why am i even surprise at this point. Ultimately if these peoples give free meal, its a good thing. If the peoples going to get them fear Covid, nothing force them to go get said meals.


No, it's too inhuman.

On the other hand, I would charge the hospitalization costs to the non-vaccinated. It's very expensive.

Yeah and charge hospitalization to the peoples having lung cancer if they smoked too. Or how about the morbid obese with heart issues. Alcoolics with liver failures too. Oh while at it, if you had a ski accident and broke your leg, charge them too, you decided to go ski, its your decision that got you injured. ;)
 

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You’re going to compare the measures of not going to restaurant. Not participating in sports. Not going to costco
To the holocaust….really…
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No, it's too inhuman.

On the other hand, I would charge the hospitalization costs to the non-vaccinated. It's very expensive.
that is a slippery slope that you do not want to go down
 

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that is a slippery slope that you do not want to go down
I agree and it is pretty simple. Once you start taxing hospitalization costs against the unvaccinated, then consistent with equal protection under the law, you would also have to tax the vaccinated who incur the same hospitalization costs. This will likely produce many lawsuits and get shot down in the Courts very quickly. It would not be attempted in the USA because of the 14th amendment equal protection clause. However common law rationales may be found as well, under state and federal common law in the USA and possibly Canada. You cannot discriminate in imposing healthcare costs.
 
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I agree and it is pretty simple. Once you start taxing hospitalization costs against the unvaccinated, then consistent with equal protection under the law, you would also have to tax the vaccinated who incur the same hospitalization costs. This will likely produce many lawsuits and get shot down in the Courts very quickly. It would not be attempted in the USA because of the 14th amendment equal protection clause. However common law rationales may be found as well, under state and federal common law in the USA and possibly Canada. You cannot discriminate in imposing healthcare costs.
Legault has the habit of using the Notwithstanding Clause to pass laws that violate the charters of rights, in Quebec this law will go through. Does not sound like there is a Notwithstanding Clause in the USA? Another good thing about US politics is a president can only run two terms. In Canada it can go on for ten terms or more.
 

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Legault has the habit of using the Notwithstanding Clause to pass laws that violate the charters of rights, in Quebec this law will go through. Does not sound like there is a Notwithstanding Clause in the USA? Another good thing about US politics is a president can only run two terms. In Canada it can go on for ten terms or more.

If every other parties go against it , i don't think he will. Also have to remember that his mandate may end in October. I am sure that a lot of peoples are against this and this could make him loose votes. I don't believe CAQ won't be reelected cause honestly no opposition is strong enough at the moment to do it. Quebec Party is on its last leg, Liberals have very little support in french speaking peoples, Quebec Solidaire is too extreme left and believe in Unicorns (figuratively speaking) with non sense propositions, and Conservative altough rising is too marginalized by some peoples. Im hoping we get at least Eric elected but i dount we will get much seats.

But what we can hope is at least Legault is not majority. That would help.

I think even his precious public health guys are not in favor of his vax tax. I really hope this is just bluff and don't go trough, That said, if it does pass, i have no money to pay this. Like litteraly. He said 100$ wouldn't be it. Ammounts advanced were 1000-1500$. I make about 500$ per month in good months. So there is no way logically i could shred that ammount. So beside the more healthy financially i don't see how could this pass. Taxes always been in term of revenues. If you don't make enough during a year, you get a huge tax return of what you paid. So would make no sense trying to tax the poor.
 
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Every BJJ/MMA gym in MTL just sent emails saying they're closed for the foreseeable future. All open mat times are closed also, so no private lessons unless they don't care about being fined. I go to 3 different gyms and they all sent the same email 2 days ago.
Just got emails saying they might be reopening MMA gyms in a couple weeks. Haven't seen anything yet in the news, I wonder where they get this information from
 

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I know restaurants can re-open for indoor dining as of tonight. Does anyone have a sense of how much longer it will be before the bars can open?
 

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Just got emails saying they might be reopening MMA gyms in a couple weeks. Haven't seen anything yet in the news, I wonder where they get this information from

Gym reopening Febuary 14 so another half month to go

Based on this, the vax tax is abandonned

François Legault recule sur la «contribution santé» (msn.com)

I assume Legault didn't wanted to fight for it as most everybody disagreed with it.

Now i hope the freedom convoys help eventually drop the dreaded vax pass.
 
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Gym reopening Febuary 14 so another half month to go

Based on this, the vax tax is abandonned

François Legault recule sur la «contribution santé» (msn.com)

I assume Legault didn't wanted to fight for it as most everybody disagreed with it.

Now i hope the freedom convoys help eventually drop the dreaded vax pass.
that's good to hear! i wasn't gonna come back to MTL until mma gyms were open again, as my last trip was pretty damn boring. i hear the children classes actually reopen today

they really can't shut down gyms again. 1 of my favorite private gyms closed down and won't be reopening. shame
 

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I went to a coffee shop today

Finally things are open.

I just hope we don't go into another lockdown. Getting tired of lockdowns and covid.
 
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they really can't shut down gyms again. 1 of my favorite private gyms closed down and won't be reopening. shame

I saw a lot of restaurants said they REALLY hope it was the last one. Im assuming Gym said the same. At this point the shutdowns are useless and most peoples realize it. I would think if Legault shut down stuff again, there is gonna be MAJOR protest to a level we never seen. At this point stuff should go better with Spring then summer, the real test will be next Winter...
 

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laughing now at "Clown World" ban on dancing.
Government will give the citizens the right to "dance" at a later date!!??
Smiling that clubs may reopen.
Feb 28 is a Monday so should be a Blast at "Crazy Moon".
Countdown is on.
Conditions probably will be shut up, sit down, don't move, and drink your beer hehe

"Quebec’s bars, shut down for much of the pandemic, will be permitted to reopen on Feb. 28 under certain conditions including a ban on dancing, according to the report."
 

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laughing now at "Clown World" ban on dancing.
Government will give the citizens the right to "dance" at a later date!!??
Smiling that clubs may reopen.
Feb 28 is a Monday so should be a Blast at "Crazy Moon".
Countdown is on.
Conditions probably will be shut up, sit down, don't move, and drink your beer hehe

"Quebec’s bars, shut down for much of the pandemic, will be permitted to reopen on Feb. 28 under certain conditions including a ban on dancing, according to the report."

I don’t blame the government and power hungry politicians. I really don’t. They’re too stupid, corrupt and morally bankrupt to even understand.

I blame the people for voting for these clowns and their willingness to be dominated by these fools, especially many younger folks who will protest everything except their right not to be slapped around.
 

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I would charge the hospitalization costs to the non-vaccinated. It's very expensive.
Covid could attack a person who is unvaccinated because they are immunocompromised or some other reason outside their control.
It could be difficult to prove to a legal degree of certainty that an infection is definitely due to being unvaxxed.
The long fight by firefighters to get coverage for work related illness is a good example. They breathe toxic fumes in a very dangerous environment but it took decades to get Worker Comp for lung cancer.
It would also add to our ridiculous court backlogs.
 
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