Long term arrangements

[Fradi]

Honestly I find it completely comical that anybody would believe a FaceTime or Video Chat is going to give any kind of safety benefit, that is really being naive.
Some of the SP and I am sure SB are similar (sometimes they do both) are some of the finest actors around, most would deserve an Academy award and I say that in a good way, I admire their acting talents, just read some Merb reviews with all the orgasms.
I am sure most SD even ones that are predators are probably just as skilled.
It does give you a chance to verify their looks and make a decision if you like their looks, their voice, their mannerism or not so it is a useful tool, but safety, are you kidding.

 

[Clara Versailles]

But it's absolutely no different than an attorney picking jurors.

"absolutely no different"

Thanks for the laugh.
/s

Now try to think about it.

Cheers EB!

 

[Anna Bijou]

From:​

“At least hookers get wages”​

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[Anna Bijou]

You completely mischaracterized my post and do not understand how FT and VC are used. That lady asked me to do SA verification which involves turning over personal identifying information, not to her, but to third parties (date of birth, address). I proposed Face Time instead because most SBs ask to use that first for their safety. How does it promote their safety? Well I think it is common sense that you can possibly judge what you are going to meet by how that person talks and interacts with you on FT. And that is what SBs have told me. Is that foolproof? No. But it's absolutely no different than an attorney picking jurors. An attorney thinks the juror is right for the case, but is there a guarantee that the juror selected is right for the case? Of course not. And it's the same thing in Face Time or VC - you are asking questions but not to see if its the right person for the case, but the right person to go on a date with. Does the question and answer process or dialogue with the stranger ensure you have made a correct decision? Of course not, but in both cases if you have the power to read and judge people, then it may give you some information with which to make an informed decision.

The usefulness of jury selection/voire dire and FaceTime/Video Chat is.I think it's pretty obvious that if what you said is actually true, we would not have Video Chat on SA or jury selection, which has been around since the beginning of civilization. Perhaps you have no confidence in your own ability to read and judge people in a FaceTime chat, or in the ability of others to do so, but that doesn't entitle you to begrudge the ability of others who feel as though they can do so and derive comfort from doing so.

An attorney picking jurors? What are you talking about? Keeping ourselves safe and ALIVE has nothing to do with jury selection. Tell me you don't get it without telling me you don't get it.

I hear Ted Bundy was quite charming. But I'm sure FaceTime would have saved his victims.



Seriously?

.. is common sense to almost all of the world except you, apparently

Perhaps you have no confidence in your own ability to read and judge people in a FaceTime chat

I don't need FaceTime to pick up on how disrespectful and condescending you are.

I'm that good!!!

 

[Anna Bijou]

These are the tweets I was referring to...

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Last one, promise....

From Reddit

 

[CoolAmadeus]

Be safe. Be smart. Talk to others with more experience. Read the sticky posts. Screen and vet your POTs and go on a public meet and greet that doesn not have the immediate plan of intimacy, directly following. Take some time to consider what you felt, after leaving that meet and greet. Plan the first date for a day of two later. Soak up your intuition and move on with the knowledge that it could go wrong, and the hope that it will go right! This is advice for SDs and SBs alike. I have so much love for this community! Thanks for reading and engaging in discussion!

In my opinion, this end of the last paragraph resumes very well... Thanks Anna.

 

[Anna Bijou]

In my opinion, this end of the last paragraph resumes very well... Thanks Anna.

The problem is that the girls who need this information the most probably don't have access to it until later. I never realized until I read the first article, how SB/SD sites are set up in such a way that keeps SB's isolated from others. The types of scams and the countless different types of people/situations that anyone entering any sort of Sex Work encounters (even more so if you're new and young, the predators are often the first experiences because, well, she's prey), a lot of these situations are not ones that most girls are prepared for.

You can't approach any sex work with the same kind of trusting attitude that is what they're used to. You don't necessarily even understand all the risks that you should watch out for, you don't know how to set boundaries - you may not have even figured out exactly what those boundaries are yet. Assertiveness is something you learn, it's not automatic for everyone.

It creates a risk of easily ending up in dangerous situations or being taken advantage of. That's the case even if you are a little older. The idea is that if they're isolated and don't have anyone else with experience to avoid these, she has to learn on her own, often by going through these experiences alone.

This applies for SB and escorts. Only, escorts have the option of starting out with an agency and learning enough before they work on their own, if that's what they decide. The best move I did certainly was to work for an agency for a few months.

 

[Ducon]

Some girls on S.A. are shy and don't know their worth. I don't usually get much chemistry with them because they tend to be quite passive.
Some others are so hot that they are used to treating people like crap and getting away with it. They haven't learnt yet that politeness costs nothing and can be very profitable.

 

[Flyingby]

So. I seeking still seeking arrangement? Or a dating site now?
i am gusseing adultfriendfinder is bullshit?
anything else like seeking arrangement out there?

 

[oobe]

Question repeatedly asked in various places and concensus seems to be: it sucks but it's still the best option around...

From my personal experience, "prices" have gone up but there are still gems to be found.
(like the one who just met someone more age-appropriate and decided to gives this a chance, damn!)

 

[Flyingby]

Question repeatedly asked in various places and concensus seems to be: it sucks but it's still the best option around...

From my personal experience, "prices" have gone up but there are still gems to be found.
(like the one who just met someone more age-appropriate and decided to gives this a chance, damn!)

Which site sucks ? Seeking or adultfriendfinder?

 

[oobe]

Which site sucks ? Seeking or adultfriendfinder?

Sorry, yes, I was talking about seeking!

 

[EagerBeaver]

I have been on Seeking for 9 years now and I feel like the quality of the SBs has declined since Covid pandemic. I am not sure why. Lots of women are posting profiles who aren't that attractive and some have been good at photographic fakery- photoshopping to make themselves look better than they are in reality. I have had a very high number of one and done dates the last 6 months. Be very careful with any ladies who don't post pics with clear body shots. I recently went on a date with a woman who posted one pic of herself in a very sleek loose fitting dress. She described her body type as "slim." The woman who showed was facially the woman in the pic, but the pic was either 5-6 years old or shame on me for agreeing to date a woman with one loosely fitting dress pic. She had a dumpy body- a layer of fat, like a beer belly noticeably folded over her pants line. Her face wasn't bad and she was a pleasant woman to talk to, but not attractive to me at all. SA can be frustrating if you aren't patient, willing to invest time and endure one and done dates where you know from the opening greeting you will never see her again. You also need to use the block function on your phone with women who pester you, bother you or even ask for money randomly. I agreed to a date with a woman around a month ago and before I even met her, she texted me and asked for lunch money. I protested that I had not even met her and all we had agreed to is a dinner date for $100 and not any advances. When she protested that she needed an advance, I blocked her. She almost sounded like a panhandler and my guess is she is a drug user and needed a fix bad. Any time I encounter someone who doesn't abide by agreed upon terms, they are automatically blocked.

All of the above being said, if you can sift through all the chaff, there are gems on there. Just have to deal with lots of swings and misses before you hit the home run. Just like baseball and it makes you appreciate a guy like Judge who strikes out 175 times but hits 62 homers. You have to decide if the HRs you hit are worth all of the strikeouts and back to the dugout. Remember the guys who are not as good as Judge hit 32 HRs and strike out 175 times.

 

[envelopes]

I have been on Seeking for 9 years now and I feel like the quality of the SBs has declined since Covid pandemic. I am not sure why. Lots of women are posting profiles who aren't that attractive and some have been good at photographic fakery- photoshopping to make themselves look better than they are in reality. I have had a very high number of one and done dates the last 6 months. Be very careful with any ladies who don't post pics with clear body shots. I recently went on a date with a woman who posted one pic of herself in a very sleek loose fitting dress. She described her body type as "slim." The woman who showed was facially the woman in the pic, but the pic was either 5-6 years old or shame on me for agreeing to date a woman with one loosely fitting dress pic. She had a dumpy body- a layer of fat, like a beer belly noticeably folded over her pants line. Her face wasn't bad and she was a pleasant woman to talk to, but not attractive to me at all. SA can be frustrating if you aren't patient, willing to invest time and endure one and done dates where you know from the opening greeting you will never see her again. You also need to use the block function on your phone with women who pester you, bother you or even ask for money randomly. I agreed to a date with a woman around a month ago and before I even met her, she texted me and asked for lunch money. I protested that I had not even met her and all we had agreed to is a dinner date for $100 and not any advances. When she protested that she needed an advance, I blocked her. She almost sounded like a panhandler and my guess is she is a drug user and needed a fix bad. Any time I encounter someone who doesn't abide by agreed upon terms, they are automatically blocked.

All of the above being said, if you can sift through all the chaff, there are gems on there. Just have to deal with lots of swings and misses before you hit the home run. Just like baseball and it makes you appreciate a guy like Judge who strikes out 175 times but hits 62 homers. You have to decide if the HRs you hit are worth all of the strikeouts and back to the dugout. Remember the guys who are not as good as Judge hit 32 HRs and strike out 175 times.

Onlyfans.

I didn't believe it at first when guys kept talking about OF killing the sex work and SB industry... but ... it's really true.

I met a 19 year old SP, my ATF at the moment. Her friends did SP work for about 2 weeks and decided to try OF. After a couple months, they make more on OF now than SP work... and they don't evne need to do any work. They just post some pictures and videos and they make the same as seeing 10 clients. My ATF could be easily making thousands a week doing OF, but she says she doesn't want pics/videos of her on OF. Unfortunately, most girls don't care these days. I guess she's a unicorn and I'm lucky she's still working.

I have another 22 year old SP I've been seeing. Extremely hot... her friend helped her start an OF. But since she doesn't allow her face to be in the pics, I don't think she gets many subscribers. But even without showing her face, she makes about as much $ doing OF than she does doing SP work.

They both used to be SBs, and decided to do SP for more money... but since OF is the other path many young SBs can go... they do OF instead. I don't even use OF or see SBs and I still hear so much about this from girls... so it must be a very common theme.

WE NEED TO KILL OnlyFans! They were on the verge of death years ago with all the puritan/tax/banking problems.... so close to being rid of them

 

[EagerBeaver]

Actually the last lady that I had random one-off sex with on Seeking Arrangement (which was this past October) told me she had an OF account. She also told me she had around 30 subscribers but she also said she was thinking of raising her rates. She was a no repeat for me. She was moving to a different part of the State in December and the drive wasn't worth it.

Only Fans could be one factor in diminishing the quality on SA. Another is that in the 9 years since I have been on SA, other SB sites have developed and have likely taken some of the better SBs onto their sites. I tried Bumble and Tinder and Match and What's Your Price but I didn't like any of those sites.

SA peaked in my opinion from around 2015 to 2018. During those years, I met a lot of hot young women and had consistent sex at reasonable rates. I actually couldn't believe how good it was for a while. I had a good run with it and then things just really kind of declined. It used to be I would send out 7-10 messages whenever I logged in but now I really have to search for a long time to find 2 or 3 girls worth messaging, and usually they are like 45 minutes or an hour away. And it's halfhearted messaging. It sucks. It's not like it was.

I do have a regular I have seen on and off since 2018 but she is now 25 years old and although she still looks great, things have stagnated a bit and I want some new experiences.

 

[montrealrez]

The last two post regarding long term arrangements by Eager Beaver really sums what SA is currently.

 

[Shantie_mtl]

I do arrangement ... but exclusive for a lot mean no protection... no thanks

 

[Shantie_mtl]

Actually the last lady that I had random one-off sex with on Seeking Arrangement (which was this past October) told me she had an OF account. She also told me she had around 30 subscribers but she also said she was thinking of raising her rates. She was a no repeat for me. She was moving to a different part of the State in December and the drive wasn't worth it.

Only Fans could be one factor in diminishing the quality on SA. Another is that in the 9 years since I have been on SA, other SB sites have developed and have likely taken some of the better SBs onto their sites. I tried Bumble and Tinder and Match and What's Your Price but I didn't like any of those sites.

SA peaked in my opinion from around 2015 to 2018. During those years, I met a lot of hot young women and had consistent sex at reasonable rates. I actually couldn't believe how good it was for a while. I had a good run with it and then things just really kind of declined. It used to be I would send out 7-10 messages whenever I logged in but now I really have to search for a long time to find 2 or 3 girls worth messaging, and usually they are like 45 minutes or an hour away. And it's halfhearted messaging. It sucks. It's not like it was.

I do have a regular I have seen on and off since 2018 but she is now 25 years old and although she still looks great, things have stagnated a bit and I want some new experiences.

At the end seeking is a escort service low balling because they have no Knowlege... not sex work is not taboo... so nobody gonna work for cheap... I do more online meeting than in person

 

[envelopes]

After seeing two 10/10 SPs that told me they used to do seeking and met with guys for 300 for 6 hours, I need to start using Seeking lol. They provided incredible service

Seems like too much work

 

[theyellowman]

After seeing two 10/10 SPs that told me they used to do seeking and met with guys for 300 for 6 hours, I need to start using Seeking lol. They provided incredible service

Seems like too much work

If you could find a arrangement with SP at that price! Go for it !

I choose SB because i like to have a companionship! Multiple hours meeting. I can’t afford the SP for this type of arrangement!