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Cap'tain Fantastic

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but it's hard to compete with those who offer a performance that is something you'd see in a hardcore adult film haha
If you’re one who feels that it’s competition, you should try to stick to your category of providers for proper comparison . I think there’s as many clients seeking your type of services than the ones looking for PSE experience. Maybe try to read threads about girls who offer GFE services and you will see that there is a high demand for them.
 

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If you’re one who feels that it’s competition, you should try to stick to your category of providers for proper comparison . I think there’s as many clients seeking your type of services than the ones looking for PSE experience. Maybe try to read threads about girls who offer GFE services and you will see that there is a high demand for them.
yeah, that's definitely what I intend to do! i just have a lot of potential clients ask me for PSE type services even tho my website and ads clearly state that i'm a gfe sp.. and sometimes act surprised & disappointed that i don't offer certain things
 

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I think the definition of GFE vs PSE is pretty fluid, so that might be another reason.
yes definitely and certain things that can be part of my services or extras can qualify as PSE, but overall if you are looking for a very extroverted PSE provider with an impressive performance that could be seen in a hardcore porn movie i am not the right person to offer it :) i'm more on the shy and soft and sensual side. a lot of clients enjoy that tho
 

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yeah, that's definitely what I intend to do! i just have a lot of potential clients ask me for PSE type services even tho my website and ads clearly state that i'm a gfe sp.. and sometimes act surprised & disappointed that i don't offer certain things
When putting an advertisement you should emphasize that before contacting you, potential clients must read your entire website as you won’t answer any questions about stuff that are clearly visible on your website.
 

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When putting an advertisement you should emphasize that before contacting you, potential clients must read your entire website as you won’t answer any questions about stuff that are clearly visible on your website.

You have a lot of faith in your peers.

Most men don’t read, it doesn’t matter in which language or size we type it. They don’t read
 

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A lot of girls are using that exact tactics to avoid wasting their time. If someone asked for something that is clearly stated on their website some would go as far as to automatically block them. Some other will kindly direct them to go back and read carefully before recontacting them. Je n’invente rien là.
 

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When putting an advertisement you should emphasize that before contacting you, potential clients must read your entire website as you won’t answer any questions about stuff that are clearly visible on your website.
A lot of clients don't read my website or don't read the ads at all. It states on my website how to contact me but people rarely do it that way. I don't mind answering questions actually and I know inquiries can't always be perfect :) A lot of clients want a pse service but they don't want to pay the full rate for it so they reach out to gfe providers expecting something similar and trying to push boundaries. I'd like to say I offer a personalized gfe service with available extras but restrictions need to be clear and my general vibe needs to be understood, if that makes sense
 
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A lot of girls are using that exact tactics to avoid wasting their time. If someone asked for something that is clearly stated on their website some would go as far as to automatically block them. Some other will kindly direct them to go back and read carefully before recontacting them. Je n’invente rien là.
i've been using the 2nd tactic and letting the clients know that they must ask clear questions as well. mais je suis nouvelle (un peu plus de 2 ans) et je dois mettre de l'eau dans mon vin un peu des fois! :) aussi parfois y'a des clients maladroits qui ne savent pas trop ce qu'ils font, c'est leur première fois et je dois les diriger un peu. souvent j'ai une bonne expérience avec ce type de client nouveau. mais c'est vrai que je dois apprendre à ne pas laisser les gens prendre trop de mon temps lors de conversations interminables
 
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It makes sense and I also understand why SPs do not want to list a "menu", but it can get confusing for the clients as some services are considered GFE by one SP and PSE for another.
I rarely inquire about PSE, but sometimes do ask the question what it would include as opposed to GFE + extras.
I think the word ''menu'' can be really off putting for SPs, at least it is for me, but I realized over time that it is indeed confusing for clients so now I clearly list services when I'm asked :) I also like to be asked directly if I offer a certain service because often when somebody asks a vague question they want to ask something very specific, for example they want to make sure i personally offer bbbj instead of cbj, but they make me write a long paragraph instead. i myself still feel kinda confused by the definition of pse specifically.
 

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Julia can be anything you want her to be. She can be the sensual sweet girlfriend or a rock star.
Deep down however she is a total sweetheart and an amazingly kind young lady.
absolutely true and i've witnessed & experienced it!
 

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Julia can be anything you want her to be. She can be the sensual sweet girlfriend or a rock star.
Deep down however she is a total sweetheart and an amazingly kind young lady.

I totally agree. I may focus more on her other side, but I’m not blind and wouldn’t be a repeat client if she wasn’t everything you say.

Julia is indeed the total package, and a chameleon when it comes to adjusting to her clients’ needs
 

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I think the word ''menu'' can be really off putting for SPs, at least it is for me, but I realized over time that it is indeed confusing for clients so now I clearly list services when I'm asked :) I also like to be asked directly if I offer a certain service because often when somebody asks a vague question they want to ask something very specific, for example they want to make sure i personally offer bbbj instead of cbj, but they make me write a long paragraph instead. i myself still feel kinda confused by the definition of pse specifically.
Reading the ad or website would help solve a lot of the problems you mention, but I do agree GFE vs PSE can be confusing, GFE + extras can be very similar to a lot of PSE offering. Sometimes PSE includes greek, sometimes it doesn't, sometimes it can be an extra. Some providers are open to clients asking specific questions as you mention and some providers don't want questions about their services because the inquiries might be too vulgar or graphic. Every provider is different in what they offer and how they want to communicate, with the commonality of respect and empathy when getting in touch with them... it would seem fairly straight forward but I guess not always done
 
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