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Cap'tain Fantastic

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A lot of girls are using that exact tactics to avoid wasting their time. If someone asked for something that is clearly stated on their website some would go as far as to automatically block them. Some other will kindly direct them to go back and read carefully before recontacting them. Je n’invente rien là.
 

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When putting an advertisement you should emphasize that before contacting you, potential clients must read your entire website as you won’t answer any questions about stuff that are clearly visible on your website.
A lot of clients don't read my website or don't read the ads at all. It states on my website how to contact me but people rarely do it that way. I don't mind answering questions actually and I know inquiries can't always be perfect :) A lot of clients want a pse service but they don't want to pay the full rate for it so they reach out to gfe providers expecting something similar and trying to push boundaries. I'd like to say I offer a personalized gfe service with available extras but restrictions need to be clear and my general vibe needs to be understood, if that makes sense
 
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Lunaseraphim

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A lot of girls are using that exact tactics to avoid wasting their time. If someone asked for something that is clearly stated on their website some would go as far as to automatically block them. Some other will kindly direct them to go back and read carefully before recontacting them. Je n’invente rien là.
i've been using the 2nd tactic and letting the clients know that they must ask clear questions as well. mais je suis nouvelle (un peu plus de 2 ans) et je dois mettre de l'eau dans mon vin un peu des fois! :) aussi parfois y'a des clients maladroits qui ne savent pas trop ce qu'ils font, c'est leur première fois et je dois les diriger un peu. souvent j'ai une bonne expérience avec ce type de client nouveau. mais c'est vrai que je dois apprendre à ne pas laisser les gens prendre trop de mon temps lors de conversations interminables
 
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I'd like to say I offer a personalized gfe service with available extras but restrictions need to be clear and my general vibe needs to be understood, if that makes sense
It makes sense and I also understand why SPs do not want to list a "menu", but it can get confusing for the clients as some services are considered GFE by one SP and PSE for another.
I rarely inquire about PSE, but sometimes do ask the question what it would include as opposed to GFE + extras.
 

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It makes sense and I also understand why SPs do not want to list a "menu", but it can get confusing for the clients as some services are considered GFE by one SP and PSE for another.
I rarely inquire about PSE, but sometimes do ask the question what it would include as opposed to GFE + extras.
I think the word ''menu'' can be really off putting for SPs, at least it is for me, but I realized over time that it is indeed confusing for clients so now I clearly list services when I'm asked :) I also like to be asked directly if I offer a certain service because often when somebody asks a vague question they want to ask something very specific, for example they want to make sure i personally offer bbbj instead of cbj, but they make me write a long paragraph instead. i myself still feel kinda confused by the definition of pse specifically.
 

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Julia can be anything you want her to be. She can be the sensual sweet girlfriend or a rock star.
Deep down however she is a total sweetheart and an amazingly kind young lady.

I totally agree. I may focus more on her other side, but I’m not blind and wouldn’t be a repeat client if she wasn’t everything you say.

Julia is indeed the total package, and a chameleon when it comes to adjusting to her clients’ needs
 

Sylar

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Speaking of Julia, she has listed and differentiated her services nicely.
For example: With just one look you know that deepthroat falls under the PSE experience. Then you understand that she is overqualified (or rather you are underqualified) for this service and you can safe yourself $50. :p
 

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Check your emails
Thank you my dear

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I think the word ''menu'' can be really off putting for SPs, at least it is for me, but I realized over time that it is indeed confusing for clients so now I clearly list services when I'm asked :) I also like to be asked directly if I offer a certain service because often when somebody asks a vague question they want to ask something very specific, for example they want to make sure i personally offer bbbj instead of cbj, but they make me write a long paragraph instead. i myself still feel kinda confused by the definition of pse specifically.
Reading the ad or website would help solve a lot of the problems you mention, but I do agree GFE vs PSE can be confusing, GFE + extras can be very similar to a lot of PSE offering. Sometimes PSE includes greek, sometimes it doesn't, sometimes it can be an extra. Some providers are open to clients asking specific questions as you mention and some providers don't want questions about their services because the inquiries might be too vulgar or graphic. Every provider is different in what they offer and how they want to communicate, with the commonality of respect and empathy when getting in touch with them... it would seem fairly straight forward but I guess not always done
 
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