Approaching women

[Valentina Amante | LAVAL]

Unfortunately all the burden is on men when women refuse to make the first move. They wait for men to make the first move, all the burden of rejection falls on men. The embarressment and the ego busting of being rejected is tough, dating is strongly in favor of women. I think women in general do not understand this and many can be brutal in their rejection methods. It is weird that in 2025 with all this gender equality that there is total gender inequality in courtship. I think it is time women start making the first move. Many men are very shy and it just sucks for them.

I can understand this. I also think it goes both ways because I’ve made 1st moves myself in my dating life - these men ended up ruining my life. HAHA!!! I’m kidding (Not saying I wasn’t a brat either)
I’ve learned many teachings from this. Hurt people hurt people and that can go for both, men and women thus creating a vicious cycle. I’ve been rejected so many times be it career wise, love live, friends that you get used to it and move along. To be honest it becomes a blessing - saving your energy for the stuff that makes you happy and finding peace alone can benefit you tremendously later on in life.

Too many times I’ve been the Pet Foster Home for these dogs so they can run off to their forever homes!

 

[curly]

Unfortunately all the burden is on men when women refuse to make the first move. They wait for men to make the first move, all the burden of rejection falls on men. The embarressment and the ego busting of being rejected is tough, dating is strongly in favor of women. I think women in general do not understand this and many can be brutal in their rejection methods. It is weird that in 2025 with all this gender equality that there is total gender inequality in courtship. I think it is time women start making the first move. Many men are very shy and it just sucks for them.

You know what? I'm quite fine with me making the first move. This is something you need to learn, but it can be learned.

Cloud500 I know you post in the stripclub section. Do do you know how it feels when you're a client there and all the girls all come to you one after the other with cheesy openings trying to get you to spend money on them? It gets tiring, boring at best, feeling harassed at worst. Well, this is exactly how women feel in a club going out. All men come to them all wanting the same thing. I don't like it, can't blame them to hate it too.

So I must say that now I prefer choosing whom I approach, with the risks associated to that, than being approached by all the wrong ones all night long!

 

[Enjoying life]

You know what? I'm quite fine with me making the first move. This is something you need to learn, but it can be learned.

Cloud500 I know you post in the stripclub section. Do do you know how it feels when you're a client there and all the girls all come to you one after the other with cheesy openings trying to get you to spend money on them? It gets tiring, boring at best, feeling harassed at worst. Well, this is exactly how women feel in a club going out. All men come to them all wanting the same thing. I don't like it, can't blame them to hate it too.

So I must say that now I prefer choosing whom I approach, with the risks associated to that, than being approached by all the wrong ones all night long!

The best ones choose not to approach!

 

[Valentina Amante | LAVAL]

So I must say that now I prefer choosing whom I approach, with the risks associated to that, than being approached by all the wrong ones all night long!

Yessss this is part of the male DNA too! They are hunters, gatherers / chasers. But I get it that it can become tiring. I feel like nowadays it’s a free for all. It has to do with religion and modernization of stuff. How society became so accepting of sex also (shoutout to us working girls). You wouldn’t see so much promiscuity “back in the day”. Yes it existed but it doesn’t mean that they were happy marriages. Back then dating was way less polyamorous / open relationship / fuck friends left and right. There’s an amalgamation of reasons at play here! Lots of mental illness too. It’s a whole thing today. People don’t know wtf they want.

 

[Enjoying life]

Yessss this is part of the male DNA too! They are hunters, gatherers / chasers. But I get it that it can become tiring. I feel like nowadays it’s a free for all. It has to do with religion and modernization of stuff. How society became so accepting of sex also (shoutout to us working girls). You wouldn’t see so much promiscuity “back in the day”. Yes it existed but it doesn’t mean that they were happy marriages. Back then dating was way less polyamorous. There’s an amalgamation of reasons at play here! Lots of mental illness too. It’s a whole thing today.

Yes! So many SPS today are so open and nothing shocks them just ask like I do and you will be surprised!

 

[Enjoying life]

Yes! So many SPS today are so open and nothing shocks them just ask like I do and you will be surprised!

I find it way hotter and enjoyable with a kinky sp than a partner as it just feels so free as a partner has feelings and it’s not the same

 

[Valentina Amante | LAVAL]

I find it way hotter and enjoyable with a kinky sp than a partner as it just feels so free as a partner has feelings as it’s not the same

I think it depends on your partner. If I had a partner I wouldn’t engage with other people because he’d be my partner for a reason. You just have to find the right partner. Personally, if I’m satisfied I don’t need more. I wanna keep that satisfaction growing for a long time.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

Unfortunately all the burden is on men when women refuse to make the first move. They wait for men to make the first move, all the burden of rejection falls on men. The embarressment and the ego busting of being rejected is tough, dating is strongly in favor of women. I think women in general do not understand this and many can be brutal in their rejection methods. It is weird that in 2025 with all this gender equality that there is total gender inequality in courtship. I think it is time women start making the first move. Many men are very shy and it just sucks for them.

I think a lot of women are raised to not make the first move because we are told it's unattractive to be too assertive, but we are also afraid of being creepy because we know what it feels like to receive unwanted attention. I don't agree that people should be brutal when rejecting someone, but I think there is a time and place to approach somebody, and sometimes it can be inappropriate. I don't personally want men (or women) to approach me in the metro or at the mall and ask me out on a date. A lot of men forget that in dating situations women risk getting assaulted or harassed and that's why we have our guards up, not because we are man haters...

 

[curly]

The best ones choose not to approach!

What do you mean?

 

[Enjoying life]

I think it depends on your partner. If I had a partner I wouldn’t engage with other people because he’d be my partner for a reason. You just have to find the right partner. Personally, if I’m satisfied I don’t need more. I wanna keep that satisfaction growing for a long time.

It’s the experience of being involved vs not involved as I’ve been with 2 kinky partners but I did not feel comfortable doing some fetishes with them but with a sp it’s an open book and it’s way more exciting!

 

[Valentina Amante | LAVAL]

It’s the experience of being involved vs not involved as I’ve been with 2 kinky partners but I did not feel comfortable doing some fetishes with them but with a sp it’s an open book and it’s way more exciting!

I feel you. The thrill and all!

 

[Enjoying life]

It’s the experience of being involved vs not involved as I’ve been with 2 kinky partners but I did not feel comfortable doing some fetishes with them but with a sp it’s an open book and it’s way more exciting!

I just find it so hot doing kinky stuff with no involvement as i feel so un inhibited free and have the best orgasms ! So many great kinky sps out there!

 

[Enjoying life]

I feel you. The thrill and all!

Exactly especially when you find a kinky sp you click with, the thrill of that endorphin rush is so out of this world as it’s soooo refreshing not to keep things inside of you!

 

[Valentina Amante | LAVAL]

Exactly especially when you find a kinky sp you click with, the thrill of that endorphin rush is so out of this world as it’s soooo refreshing not to keep things inside of you!

That’s what we’re here for

(This is a saying. Not calling anyone a loser hahaha. It’s more for the “get in” IYKWIM)

 

[Enjoying life]

What do you mean?

It means you choose not to approach and go through the pick up lines and create an uncomfortable situation!

 

[Enjoying life]

That’s what we’re here for

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Also getting a great massage at the end and discussing life as I enjoy getting her gifts ! Someone is driving to me from a distance really needs to be appreciated I find!

 

[CLOUD 500]

I think a lot of women are raised to not make the first move because we are told it's unattractive to be too assertive, but we are also afraid of being creepy because we know what it feels like to receive unwanted attention. I don't agree that people should be brutal when rejecting someone, but I think there is a time and place to approach somebody, and sometimes it can be inappropriate. I don't personally want men (or women) to approach me in the metro or at the mall and ask me out on a date. A lot of men forget that in dating situations women risk getting assaulted or harassed and that's why we have our guards up, not because we are man haters...

But those are old time gender roles like in a time when women was housewives. This has to change. Women are having their own careers and working and some have managerial jobs and some are in politics. To the contrary, nothing turns me on more then a woman who makes the first move and asks me out. It is the single most biggest ego booster ever.

 

[CLOUD 500]

Yessss this is part of the male DNA too! They are hunters, gatherers / chasers. But I get it that it can become tiring. I feel like nowadays it’s a free for all. It has to do with religion and modernization of stuff. How society became so accepting of sex also (shoutout to us working girls). You wouldn’t see so much promiscuity “back in the day”. Yes it existed but it doesn’t mean that they were happy marriages. Back then dating was way less polyamorous / open relationship / fuck friends left and right. There’s an amalgamation of reasons at play here! Lots of mental illness too. It’s a whole thing today. People don’t know wtf they want.

I am definitely no chaser in fact I find it very undignified and very discouraging.

 

[CLOUD 500]

You know what? I'm quite fine with me making the first move. This is something you need to learn, but it can be learned.

Cloud500 I know you post in the stripclub section. Do do you know how it feels when you're a client there and all the girls all come to you one after the other with cheesy openings trying to get you to spend money on them? It gets tiring, boring at best, feeling harassed at worst. Well, this is exactly how women feel in a club going out. All men come to them all wanting the same thing. I don't like it, can't blame them to hate it too.

So I must say that now I prefer choosing whom I approach, with the risks associated to that, than being approached by all the wrong ones all night long!

That is precisely why men act like sharks because the women refuse to make the first move. Men are told that they got to chase so that is what they do. If things were more balanced I am certain the aggressive men would tone down. As for a stripclub, part of the appeal is to be chased. If I am at the club with a stack of money to spend and the girl of my choice ignores me well I will just go home with the money in my pocket. No way I will ever chase a girl especially at a stripclub, I find it very insulting.

 

[CLOUD 500]

The best ones choose not to approach!

100% true. The hottest girls are just sitting at the bar waiting to be picked up. These are the most entitled girls. I tend to not bother with them, but they are not all like that. I get approached from time to time from gorgeous girls.