Continuos SP Cancellations and Your Time

[Vegeta1]

I have no problem against OP and anyone participating in this conversation (I'm particularly grateful for my colleagues Julia & Giselle & Michelle here and their comments), but this type of thread is one of the reasons why I try to avoid participating in this forum now... I notice this trend that consists in someone complaining about a situation that feels outrageous to some but there is missing information and something important that everyone is avoiding.

First of all let's talk about this gentleman who tried to book someone 5-6 times and was cancelled on every time. On one hand this type of behavior can appear very unprofessional and it sounds shocking and frustrating. But why keep trying to book her? After 1 or 2 cancellations I can understand why you would try again but 3-4-5? There are plenty of SP's you could see instead.

One possibility is that the person is going through something we don't know, such as having health issues or having to take care of emergencies, and the flexibility of being an independent provider allows someone who's going through a chaotic life situation to make money. Okay, now that we found out she has new rates that other clients are paying, could it be understandable that in this industry somebody would eventually not want to see clients who don't want to pay new rates? I don't want to imply that OP has inappropriate behavior and I don't know him or the situation and have no idea who this is referring to (and I don't want to know). But it's easy to imagine why certain clients are prioritized by a SP and why she may not be as excited to see some others... And I'm not talking about the client's attractiveness. It can be really hard to communicate to a client that we don't want to see them anymore and why. Confronting a client on something they did that make us uncomfortable can be risky and cause problems. Also if this provider is popular and raised her rates and is seeing someone who pays her old rates, she might be too tired to take on bookings that are less lucrative.. It might not even be personal.

The second problem I'm seeing in this thread is someone being upset that he wasn't able to book someone at a specific moment. There's a difference between getting cancelled on several times and not being able to book a provider. I don't think it's dishonest to say you're available during a certain time frame and then not being able to book a client. Schedules change. We post our ads sometimes to get visibility and not to signal that we're available. And I'll speak for myself, I'll give an example. Suppose it's friday and I post in the morning that I'm available all day and nobody contacts me .. I'm going to go ahead and do something else, I'm not going to sit around and look at my computer and my phone until I get a message. And if I end up getting a message from someone who says ''I want to see you in a hour'' I might not be able to rush and take the booking.

I'm trying to put myself in everyone's shoes and I understand wanting to see someone in the heat of the moment or really wanting to see a certain SP badly, but in the end it comes across as a bit entitled to be really upset that you weren't able to see her. Nobody is entitled to a booking with a specific SP. Very often if a SP doesn't want to see a particular client there's a good reason. (discrimination aside) For example if I notice that someone here comes across as really angry and hateful and disrespectful of women, I could decide not to see him if he tried to book me, but another SP may not have an issue with it.

While you are free to tailor your own clientele and dictate your own booking preferences, I struggle to understand why you and your colleagues are defending or giving the benefit of the doubt to an SP who demonstrated this behavior with several clients (i.e., not just the OP). If this situation happened to you when trying to book a hairdresser, electrician, plumber, etc. then how would you react in this situation? Based on the comments that ensued the first post, it is clear that the SP in question is disorganized, scattered, unable to communicate, and repeated this behavior with numerous customers notwithstanding the fees negotiated - this behavior is completely unacceptable. You also need to realize that when a dude is horny, he will generally try and book an appointment ASAP, not weeks ahead - if that is not how you, your colleagues, or the SP in question operate, you can respectfully decline without dragging the process out, and cancelling multiple times. This why I personally stick to agencies and AMPs.

 

[Mandouke]

Wow! These last two posts are well thought out and stated.

They are demonstrably accurate in depicting what I originally stated and the comments that flowed from them.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

While you are free to tailor your own clientele and dictate your own booking preferences, I struggle to understand why you and your colleagues are defending or giving the benefit of the doubt to an SP who demonstrated this behavior with several clients (i.e., not just the OP). If this situation happened to you when trying to book a hairdresser, electrician, plumber, etc. then how would you react in this situation? Based on the comments that ensued the first post, it is clear that the SP in question is disorganized, scattered, unable to communicate, and repeated this behavior with numerous customers notwithstanding the fees negotiated - this behavior is completely unacceptable. You also need to realize that when a dude is horny, he will generally try and book an appointment ASAP, not weeks ahead - if that is not how you, your colleagues, or the SP in question operate, you can respectfully decline without dragging the process out, and cancelling multiple times. This why I personally stick to agencies and AMPs.

I'm not defending this person, I don't even know who she is. I've said many times I don't approve of how this person is acting. I never said this behaviour is acceptable.

I was just trying to figure out the situation and why someone would keep trying to book the same person who's constantly canceling, because OP asked why such thing would happen, then I tried to explain to someone else why someone wouldn't feel comfortable telling a client he made her uncomfortable. (Which was a tangent)

Also I'm sorry but a dude being horny isn't the same as needing an electrician because the power isn't working at your house. I don't know why you're making this analogy.

I never canceled multiple times on a client or asked anyone to book many weeks ahead lol. Nor do I feel jaded or put less effort into my presentation compared to when I first started. I don't really understand why you're putting us all in the same category. None of us is putting the blame on OP, read the thread carefully and notice how I said several times that I don't know him and my answers have nothing to do with him.

All I'm saying is if somebody just keeps cancelling on you, there's no point in continuously trying to book the person, and you can move on to a different SP who will gladly see you. hope you have a nice day.

For me this is just a lesson to continue avoiding this board aside from posting my ad because I don't feel like this is serving me.

 

[Mandouke]

Also I'm sorry but a dude being horny isn't the same as needing an electrician because the power isn't working in your house. I don't know why you're making this analogy.

What Vegeta1 said makes perfect sense to me as a male, and the analogy is correct.

In my particular case, I was booking in advance because we had planned a special occasion; it was not a spur-of-the-moment decision to book her. I wanted to realize this occasion that we were planning for and had discussed in depth, and it is obvious now that she was stringing me along. That is why I did not move along.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

What Vegeta1 said makes perfect sense to me as a male, and the analogy is correct.

In my particular case, I was booking in advance because we had planned a special occasion; it was not a spur-of-the-moment decision to book her. I wanted to realize this occasion that we were planning for and had discussed in depth, and it is obvious now that she was stringing me along. That is why I did not move along.

I don't think it's a correct analogy personally. Not being able to have sex wont have the same consequences on your life than not having power or plumbing.

I know your post wasn't about a spur of the moment decision to book her which is why I think the analogy is even more strange in this context.

I'm really sorry this SP was stringing you along and I can assure you that not everyone will have this attitude in the industry. Obviously after discussing it in depth it's upsetting that the booking was cancelled several times. I cannot apologize enough if my comments offended you.

I hope you have good experiences in the future with other ladies who will not cancel or at least not string you along like this.

 

[Vegeta1]

I don't think it's a correct analogy personally. Not being able to have sex wont have the same consequences on your life than not having power or plumbing.

I know your post wasn't about a spur of the moment decision to book her which is why I think the analogy is even more strange in this context.

I'm really sorry this SP was stringing you along and I can assure you that not everyone will have this attitude in the industry. Obviously after discussing it in depth it's upsetting that the booking was cancelled several times. I cannot apologize enough if my comments offended you.

I hope you have good experiences in the future with other ladies who will not cancel or at least not string you along like this.

The intent of the analogy was not to equate sex with another profession, but rather to underscore the importance of reliability and respect in customer service.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

The intent of the analogy was not to equate sex with another profession, but rather to underscore the importance of reliability and respect in customer service.

And I agree with you a 100 percent that SP's have to be as professional as possible when their safety is guaranteed, I never said otherwise.

Have a fantastic Sunday.

 

[sweetlivia]

I am running into a pickle right now. I was requested a booking ahead of time and I committed.

Now my family changed their mind and want the dinner during my booking. I struggle mentally as I don’t get to meet them often. It’s partly the bad planning on my mom but will commit to client.

You’d have to understand that we do have regular life too and this balance of work-life balance is a struggle for us too.

 

[What's My Name]

I am running into a pickle right now. I was requested a booking ahead of time and I committed.

Now my family changed their mind and want the dinner during my booking. I struggle mentally as I don’t get to meet them often. It’s partly the bad planning on my mom but will commit to client.

You’d have to understand that we do have regular life too and this balance of work-life balance is a struggle for us too.

In that case just tell that person and try to reschdule for another day

 

[Vegeta1]

It’s partly the bad planning on my mom but will commit to client.

You're a service provider—no different from a plumber, electrician, hairdresser, or mechanic. Life happens, and when it does, the standard response is to reschedule and offer a courtesy discount for the inconvenience. That’s basic customer service. Blaming your mother while seeking validation here for a last-minute cancellation, and assuming the rest of us don’t understand what a regular life looks like, isn’t a productive approach.

 

[Enjoying life]

I'm not defending this person, I don't even know who she is. I've said many times I don't approve of how this person is acting. I never said this behaviour is acceptable.

I was just trying to figure out the situation and why someone would keep trying to book the same person who's constantly canceling, because OP asked why such thing would happen, then I tried to explain to someone else why someone wouldn't feel comfortable telling a client he made her uncomfortable. (Which was a tangent)

Also I'm sorry but a dude being horny isn't the same as needing an electrician because the power isn't working at your house. I don't know why you're making this analogy.

I never canceled multiple times on a client or asked anyone to book many weeks ahead lol. Nor do I feel jaded or put less effort into my presentation compared to when I first started. I don't really understand why you're putting us all in the same category. None of us is putting the blame on OP, read the thread carefully and notice how I said several times that I don't know him and my answers have nothing to do with him.

All I'm saying is if somebody just keeps cancelling on you, there's no point in continuously trying to book the person, and you can move on to a different SP who will gladly see you. hope you have a nice day.

For me this is just a lesson to continue avoiding this board aside from posting my ad because I don't feel like this is serving me.

My SP never cancels even in snow storms and drives to me!

 

[DouMan]

I am running into a pickle right now. I was requested a booking ahead of time and I committed.

Now my family changed their mind and want the dinner during my booking. I struggle mentally as I don’t get to meet them often. It’s partly the bad planning on my mom but will commit to client.

You’d have to understand that we do have regular life too and this balance of work-life balance is a struggle for us too.

Professionally you received good comments. But personally if your client doesn't understand ... he's not worth your time and can be replaced. Your Mom ... you only have one.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

You're a service provider—no different from a plumber, electrician, hairdresser, or mechanic. Life happens, and when it does, the standard response is to reschedule and offer a courtesy discount for the inconvenience. That’s basic customer service. Blaming your mother while seeking validation here for a last-minute cancellation, and assuming the rest of us don’t understand what a regular life looks like, isn’t a productive approach.

I've had a bunch of providers of different types of services cancel appointments because of important events, snow storms, family emergencies, sickness etc. .. Including my therapist and family doctor. Just saying.

My SP never cancels even in snow storms and drives to me!

Good for you! I rarely cancel but we're human beings. I've had to reschedule bookings a small number of times because I was sick. It wouldn't have been a pleasant experience for my client, particularly if he caught the flu from me and had to miss an entire week of work, or if he had to see me while I am not feeling good physically and not able to perform.

Idk why this thread is being revived.
These comments are becoming off topic, it was about a specific person cancelling several times.

 

[Halloween Mike]

My SP never cancels even in snow storms and drives to me!

When Chuck Norris meet an escort, they are the one paying him and booking him

Lol sorry but that line just reminded me of a Chuck Norris joke.

Also I'm sorry but a dude being horny isn't the same as needing an electrician because the power isn't working at your house. I don't know why you're making this analogy.

I think i may be able to chim in on that one. Personally im always horny Cap (lol yeah its a Hulk reference in Avengers ) so its not really an issue for me. Lol Joke aside being from out of town, booking only a few times a year yada yada (said that many times) i have to plan so im never calling in a "spur of the moment" but i had several guys over the years mention this to me that pre-booking too in advance just don't work for them. They need to be "horny" that day. In the mood if you prefer. Kinda like you sometimes wake up and think "man i would so eat a big Bacon Poutine today" and its not something you usually plan a week in advance like "on that day im going to that restaurant and ordering this".

I can understand where they coming from to a degree. Because even myself there is days i feel more "horny" than others. Like il spend more time on "the hub" and use more kleenex if you know what i mean than on other days. But at the same time i totally understand SPs are not Pizza delivery peoples, you can't call and expect them to arrive in 30 minutes or less (lol).

What i mean is i get both side of the argument. I think if i lived in Montreal and was comfortable financially, i would probably mix the 2. I would still pre-book some peoples but sometimes just wake up and look who's available that day and text right away to reserve.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

When Chuck Norris meet an escort, they are the one paying him and booking him

Lol sorry but that line just reminded me of a Chuck Norris joke.

I think i may be able to chim in on that one. Personally im always horny Cap (lol yeah its a Hulk reference in Avengers ) so its not really an issue for me. Lol Joke aside being from out of town, booking only a few times a year yada yada (said that many times) i have to plan so im never calling in a "spur of the moment" but i had several guys over the years mention this to me that pre-booking too in advance just don't work for them. They need to be "horny" that day. In the mood if you prefer. Kinda like you sometimes wake up and think "man i would so eat a big Bacon Poutine today" and its not something you usually plan a week in advance like "on that day im going to that restaurant and ordering this".

I can understand where they coming from to a degree. Because even myself there is days i feel more "horny" than others. Like il spend more time on "the hub" and use more kleenex if you know what i mean than on other days. But at the same time i totally understand SPs are not Pizza delivery peoples, you can't call and expect them to arrive in 30 minutes or less (lol).

What i mean is i get both side of the argument. I think if i lived in Montreal and was comfortable financially, i would probably mix the 2. I would still pre-book some peoples but sometimes just wake up and look who's available that day and text right away to reserve.

There's no argument, I think if someone doesn't want to do pre-bookings, it's their choice and they can pick someone who takes same day or last minute appointments or contact someone when they say they're available.

 

[Halloween Mike]

There's no argument, I think if someone doesn't want to do pre-bookings, it's their choice and they can pick someone who takes same day or last minute appointments or contact someone when they say they're available.

Sure but here the conversation was more around "she does take same day appointements but may cancel them" or something off that line. Obviously if someone absolutely request 24h advance (or more) then its fine, its different story.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

These SP relationships work out perfect by being kind and respectful I find!

Seems like it!

 

[Enjoying life]

Seems like it!

No headaches just total understanding ! She knows my kinks and always comes prepared !

 

[DetectiveDavidMills]

I vote for this thread to be closed since OP found his resolution/conclusion.

 

[Enjoying life]

No headaches just total understanding ! She knows my kinks and always comes prepared!