I am done reading Journal de Montreal i just can't take this anymore

[2fast2slow]

If you want to help, you can invite them in your home. Help is when it is done voluntarily, not by force like taxing people then giving them social benefits for political and personal gain. Canada used to be a nation built on immigration but not anymore, the immigrants are being used as commodity for politicians and corporations to make more money. Look around you, wealth is getting concentrated to the politicians and corporations while the rest is getting power. The middle class is now the new hidden poor because most of their income is being tied to housing. Canada's living standards will never get better till productivity is addressed, Canada is suffering a productivity crisis and you cannot build wealth by piling millions of people from the third world and give them so much social benefits. The results speak for themselves.

No we do not need 100 million people that is ridiculous, this is for politicians who want power. It is weird how you can be more concerned about what goes around in the world instead of what is happening in your own country. We should not have one more refugee or temporary foreign worker till every Canadian is employed. We should not have more more people till housing supply is more them demand. But politicians and the rich do not want that, they want real estate values to keep going up because it benefits them. I will always be for the average joe working a job. It makes no sense to have never ending population growth as if resources are infinite because they are not. The goal is to make money, the way to go that is to create a need where there is none. Another goal is to create scarcity. One way is to reduce supply and the other way is to increase demand. Politicians and the rich want more demand because they can jack up their prices is what we have been seeing since covid. Many are struggling to pay their bills, living paycheck to paycheck

Finally, your last statement makes no sense. The Liberals are piling more people then there is housing being built. In fact all the red take is causing housing construction to slow down. You need to shut down immigration. Lets put it this way, if you got a hole in your fuel tank, your solution is to put more gas to keep the tank full. But that does not resolve the problem, you need to fix the hole. Same principal. You need to shut down immigration and construct lots of new houses and apartments. And, how much natural habitat are we supposed to destroy to have more humans??? We are displacing animals from their natural habitat and destroying forests just to have more humans and for what? For the rich to make more money? There are 8.5 billion humans on this planet and that is scary. All governments should be working to slow down population growth.

A lot to unpack in that lol.

1 . I can't take in immigrants to my home, but am willing to spend my tax dollars to welcome them to Canada. That is a philisophical difference between you and me. It is not for so political and personal gain for me, i just beleive in it. And I beleive it is best for my country, Canada, in the long term.
2. Yes, I aggree with you, the gap between the rich and the poor is widening, but it is not because of immigration. It is because special interests and lobby groups, who have a lot of money and influence, well they do their job and influence the government in ways that are not always in the best intersts of the common canadian. The best way to counter that is either: vote for someone else, or, get involved with some kind of lobby group, or, better yet, run for office yourself.
3. Canadian productivity has always been on the low side, especially when compared to our southern neighbors, but we have generally more vacation, paid leave, maternity leave etc...ill take our system.
4. We have been taking in 0.5 Million immigrants a year (excluding temp workers) all thoughout the Trudeau era. Yes some if not most get social benefits until their claims are processed by our lagging court system, but trust me, they dont want social security, they want to work, and they will take all the menial jobs we dont want. So please do not portray them as societal blood sucing leaches, because they are the opposite. They just want to make a living and feed their families.

Ok those are my answers for your first paragraph...lol

 

[CLOUD 500]

A lot to unpack in that lol.

1 . I can't take in immigrants to my home, but am willing to spend my tax dollars to welcome them to Canada. That is a philisophical difference between you and me. It is not for so political and personal gain for me, i just beleive in it. And I beleive it is best for my country, Canada, in the long term.

Well I am not. That is why it should be a choice, not to be done by force. I am against the welfare state because no one is entitled to your labor. For every dollar given away by the government it is a dollar that someone worked for that they will never see. It is treason to give taxpayers money to foreigners when we got so many in Canada struggling to pay their bills. What about all the homeless?? For the government who does this it is 100% for political and personal gain from them. I never said you were.

2. Yes, I aggree with you, the gap between the rich and the poor is widening, but it is not because of immigration. It is because special interests and lobby groups, who have a lot of money and influence, well they do their job and influence the government in ways that are not always in the best intersts of the common canadian. The best way to counter that is either: vote for someone else, or, get involved with some kind of lobby group, or, better yet, run for office yourself.

Bingo but you are half right.

Century Initiative

www.centuryinitiative.ca

^^^^ Check this out. This is the Century Initiative, they classified themselves are a charity organization but in reality it is a lobby group. They cater to investors, financial companies, and yes Blackrock and McKinsey. This is a lobby organization for the rich. The Trudeau government is guilty of handing millions of dollars to the McKinsey consultant firm (the give advice to corporations and government on how to get richer). This group's goal is to have 100 million people. McKinsey was dictating immigration policy. Oh yess the gap between the rich and poor is caused by mass immigration. Did you fail your economics class? The most basic law of economics is the law of supply and demand and it is universal. The more demand there is, the higher the prices go. It does not get more complicated then that. More people = More demand. You follow me? The fact that there is more people it is making everything else more expensive like housing and food. It benefits those lobby groups the most the ones influencing the government. They lobby the government to have more people so they can make more money. They do not care if ten people got to share an apartment to makes ends meet.

3. Canadian productivity has always been on the low side, especially when compared to our southern neighbors, but we have generally more vacation, paid leave, maternity leave etc...ill take our system.

Canada never had a productivity this low. In fact Canada's productivity was up the roof in the 60s. High taxes, carbon taxes, more regulations take down productivity.

Productivity Performance in Canada, 1961 to 2005: Main article

^^^^ Here check this out.

4. We have been taking in 0.5 Million immigrants a year (excluding temp workers) all thoughout the Trudeau era. Yes some if not most get social benefits until their claims are processed by our lagging court system, but trust me, they dont want social security, they want to work, and they will take all the menial jobs we dont want. So please do not portray them as societal blood sucing leaches, because they are the opposite. They just want to make a living and feed their families.

No they do not. They come here in droves for the social benefits do not kid yourself. Do you believe every sob story? They pretend to be poor but in reality they want freebies. I seen plenty of them, single mom families with 5+ kids. They are leaches and I do not blame them, they are taking advantage. This is 100% the government's fault. Asylum seekers has surged because they know all the freebies Canada gives them. Btw you are way off on your numbers. Lol In 2024 Trudeau brought in about 2 million people, I am sure the actual number is higher. In the first quarter alone they brought in 817,000 people. Lol That is madness.

Lastly, I am not against immigration, what I am against is uncontrolled mass immigration. What I am for is responsible immigration. So it means limiting how many people enter the country and it should be based on a merit system. We need doctors, engineers, lawyers. Not more uber drivers or delivery drivers or refugees leeching off the system.

 

[2fast2slow]

Well I am not. That is why it should be a choice, not to be done by force. I am against the welfare state because no one is entitled to your labor. For every dollar given away by the government it is a dollar that someone worked for that they will never see. It is treason to give taxpayers money to foreigners when we got so many in Canada struggling to pay their bills. What about all the homeless?? For the government who does this it is 100% for political and personal gain from them. I never said you were.

Bingo but you are half right.

Century Initiative

www.centuryinitiative.ca

^^^^ Check this out. This is the Century Initiative, they classified themselves are a charity organization but in reality it is a lobby group. They cater to investors, financial companies, and yes Blackrock and McKinsey. This is a lobby organization for the rich. The Trudeau government is guilty of handing millions of dollars to the McKinsey consultant firm (the give advice to corporations and government on how to get richer). This group's goal is to have 100 million people. McKinsey was dictating immigration policy. Oh yess the gap between the rich and poor is caused by mass immigration. Did you fail your economics class? The most basic law of economics is the law of supply and demand and it is universal. The more demand there is, the higher the prices go. It does not get more complicated then that. More people = More demand. You follow me? The fact that there is more people it is making everything else more expensive like housing and food. It benefits those lobby groups the most the ones influencing the government. They lobby the government to have more people so they can make more money. They do not care if ten people got to share an apartment to makes ends meet.

Canada never had a productivity this low. In fact Canada's productivity was up the roof in the 60s. High taxes, carbon taxes, more regulations take down productivity.

Productivity Performance in Canada, 1961 to 2005: Main article

^^^^ Here check this out.

No they do not. They come here in droves for the social benefits do not kid yourself. Do you believe every sob story? They pretend to be poor but in reality they want freebies. I seen plenty of them, single mom families with 5+ kids. They are leaches and I do not blame them, they are taking advantage. This is 100% the government's fault. Asylum seekers has surged because they know all the freebies Canada gives them. Btw you are way off on your numbers. Lol In 2024 Trudeau brought in about 2 million people, I am sure the actual number is higher. In the first quarter alone they brought in 817,000 people. Lol That is madness.

Lastly, I am not against immigration, what I am against is uncontrolled mass immigration. What I am for is responsible immigration. So it means limiting how many people enter the country and it should be based on a merit system. We need doctors, engineers, lawyers. Not more uber drivers or delivery drivers or refugees leeching off the system.

lets agree to disagree. You and I represent the polarization of our society perfectly. I am not going to convince you and you are not going to convince me lol

 

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lets agree to disagree. You and I represent the polarization of our society perfectly. I am not going to convince you and you are not going to convince me lol

I am not trying to convince you of anything, that is not my job. I am just presenting you with facts which do not change because you disagree with it.

Canada's population standstill rattling Vancouver's housing industry

Douglas Todd: The development industry is urging politicians to bring back domestic investors and foreign buyers. Find out more.

vancouversun.com

^^^^^ This article is a perfect example of this. The government is in bed with the rich. They are freaking out that population growth has slowed down because then rich greedy investors, landlords, politicians cannot cash in the big bucks. They are asking to have investors and foreign buyers. The immigrant investor program of the 80s is the reason that Vancouver has the most expensive real estate market. Dies not matter what you think, this is the reality. Mass immigration is the direct cause of a cost of living crisis. They do not care if so many families cannot find an apartment, the housing crisis keeps on getting worse every year. On July first many families got to crash with friends or be sheltered in temporary housing.

The worst part is they keep on saying how they need more social housing but it always goes to asylum seekers. Everything is given to them living Canadians out dry.

 

[Chouin95]

lets agree to disagree. You and I represent the polarization of our society perfectly. I am not going to convince you and you are not going to convince me lol

Uncontrolled immigration is the biggest reason why Canada is on the downhill for the last 5 years+, it takes a blind eye to ignore the real issues like the housing crisis, food shortages/prices, health care capacity and the economy in general is in shambles.
Anyway the Liberals have put this country behind the eight ball so bad that even the immigrants might reconsider coming to Canada that’s the only silver lining.
But it’s true you’re not gonna convince a lot of people that boosting our population to 100 millions with immigrants is the way to go I think in retrospect even Trudeau knows he fucked up.

 

[Valentina Amante]

This country is going down the shitter with a “leader” who only wants to copy paste how he fucked up the UK’s economy - he is only wanting to enrich his Brookfield assets along with his own pockets and his WEF masters up high. (The pipeline jobs btw -> Brookfield has invested in them hehehe. Funny right??? for a NET ZERO AGENDA- so hypocritical and contradictory eh????.) Follow the money. Read shit that isn’t biased (ground news provides both sides of the political spectrum - to allow you to cross-check what is actually true).

Banning ICE (gas) vehicles by 2035…. yet power grids cannot sustain the current EV bullshit. Imagine you’re stuck in gridlocked traffic on the 401 with your dumb fucking EV - and a diesel or gas powered vehicle needs to come to your rescue to charge your car with their DIESEL GENERATORS. It’s a fkn clown show and it’s all by design. 15 min. Cities. Universal income. Living in pods.

They keep voting immigrants to secure and gerrymander future votes that perpetuate their endless liberal regime to stay in power.
Actual refugees/ “OG” immigrants are fed up with how many handouts they’re giving to the immigrants coming in now. The cities are barely recognizable anymore. Toronto is Mumbai 2.0. And before the wokies come for my ass please know that these are all conversations I have with PUNJABI clients or any other fkn immigrant client (in between sucking cocks and getting bent) …
It’s a slap in the face to all the REAL IMMIGRANTS that have ASSIMILATED to Canadian culture because THEY WANTED TO and NOT BECAUSE THEY WERE GIVEN HANDOUTS. To see their hard earned money be given away in these packages for new arrivals to mooch off the system should be fucking insulting to everyone. I don’t understand how people are okay with this lmao. Everyone’s fed up but - hey - virtue signalling is in style. People wanna show they’re amazing human beings awwnnnn … yet they won’t help shelter immigrants or homeless even.


- Your “far right racist nazi bigot transphobe” as an SP once tweeted about me hahaha. (She didn’t like that my values didn’t align with her woke ideology and the rest of these woke neo-liberal feminist clans she’s part of - especially in this industry. So she took to socials to bash me instead of having a rational conversation … which is another popular defense mechanism from the lefties - they label you right away).

 

[Valentina Amante]

Here are some words from a real refugee:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1938792397288489112

 

[Valentina Amante]

Elbows up our asses

$300 million federal climate programs failed to produce new jobs, lower emissions: Report

“Removing annual reporting increases the risk of poor quality performance information,” said the report.

torontosun.com

 

[Valentina Amante]

This article was published 12 hours ago.
How lovely ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ more criminals and soft on crime policies WOO!

New Liberal government figures show that the Immigration Department "forgave" the foreign criminal convictions of over 90% of immigrants who requested them to do so, resulting in OVER 17,500 convicted criminals being allowed to immigrate to Canada since 2013.

SOURCE:

Thousands of foreigners’ criminal convictions forgiven by Ottawa over 11-year span, raising transparency concerns

17,600 persons convicted abroad were considered ‘rehabilitated’ by IRCC, but no breakdown of offences was provided

www.theglobeandmail.com

 

[2fast2slow]

Well I am not. That is why it should be a choice, not to be done by force. I am against the welfare state because no one is entitled to your labor. For every dollar given away by the government it is a dollar that someone worked for that they will never see. It is treason to give taxpayers money to foreigners when we got so many in Canada struggling to pay their bills. What about all the homeless?? For the government who does this it is 100% for political and personal gain from them. I never said you were.

sorry for you, but that is our democratic system. The Trudeau government was ligitimitaly elected and they get to decide how to spend your tax dollars. No soup for you! ... I mean, no choice for you!

"I am against the welfare state because no one is entitled to your labor." What does that even mean? I already have a job, and there are a million jobs I definitely dont want. It is well established in all economic circles that we need more labourers in Canada.

"For every dollar given away by the government it is a dollar that someone worked for that they will never see. It is treason to give taxpayers money to foreigners when we got so many in Canada struggling to pay their bills." . More BS. They are not "foreigners". Sounds very xenophobic. We are not sending money to someone in another country, they are people HERE fleeing a bad situation for a better situation. Again, don't think of it as "giving away" money, think of it as an investment! The immigrant population are very hard working and just want to make a better life for themselves and their family. Are they all perfect? of course not. Are we all perfect? I'll let you answer that one.

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"It is treason to give taxpayers money to foreigners when we got so many in Canada struggling to pay their bills." That is not the definition of treason. Look it up.

Treason is the crime of betraying one's country, typically by attempting to overthrow the government or assisting its enemies. It involves a violation of allegiance and can include acts like levying war against the state, providing aid to the enemy, or attempting to kill the head of state. A person who commits treason is known as a traitor.​

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Trump's insurrection of the capital and the later 'pardoning' of all who participated, criminals found guilty in a court of law after long court processes, now that sounds a lot closer to treason! Canada's welfare state is not treason. Not even close.

"What about all the homeless??" That's a separate issue. You are confounding things.

Bingo but you are half right.

We ususally say "bingo'' when someone is 100% right, not 50% right lol

Century Initiative

www.centuryinitiative.ca

^^^^ Check this out. This is the Century Initiative, they classified themselves are a charity organization but in reality it is a lobby group. They cater to investors, financial companies, and yes Blackrock and McKinsey. This is a lobby organization for the rich. The Trudeau government is guilty of handing millions of dollars to the McKinsey consultant firm (the give advice to corporations and government on how to get richer). This group's goal is to have 100 million people. McKinsey was dictating immigration policy. Oh yess the gap between the rich and poor is caused by mass immigration. Did you fail your economics class? The most basic law of economics is the law of supply and demand and it is universal. The more demand there is, the higher the prices go. It does not get more complicated then that. More people = More demand. You follow me? The fact that there is more people it is making everything else more expensive like housing and food. It benefits those lobby groups the most the ones influencing the government. They lobby the government to have more people so they can make more money. They do not care if ten people got to share an apartment to makes ends meet.
Canada never had a productivity this low. In fact Canada's productivity was up the roof in the 60s. High taxes, carbon taxes, more regulations take down productivity.

The AG of Canada looked closely at the the contracts awarded to McKinsey, and while there were a lot of corners cut in the way the contracts were attributed, no allegations of direct corruption was even suggested. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/mc...al-government-auditor-general-hogan-1.7223893


"This group's goal is to have 100 million people". Yeah I know, that was the point of my original post. I beleive we need to grow our population fast for the long term safety and prosperity of our nation.


"Did you fail your economics class? The most basic law of economics is the law of supply and demand and it is universal. The more demand there is, the higher the prices go". Naaww man, never heard of 'supply and demand', now you are just making stuff up bro! lol

No they do not. They come here in droves for the social benefits do not kid yourself. Do you believe every sob story? They pretend to be poor but in reality they want freebies. I seen plenty of them, single mom families with 5+ kids. They are leaches and I do not blame them, they are taking advantage. This is 100% the government's fault. Asylum seekers has surged because they know all the freebies Canada gives them.

"They are leaches and I do not blame them" . Blameless leaches...that's a good one!

Btw you are way off on your numbers. Lol In 2024 Trudeau brought in about 2 million people, I am sure the actual number is higher. In the first quarter alone they brought in 817,000 people. Lol That is madness.

According to a quick search:

In 2024, Canada welcomed a total of 483,591 permanent immigrants, which is close to the annual target set by the Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada. Additionally, there was a net increase of 291,165 non-permanent residents, which includes temporary workers and students. This means the total number of people immigrating to Canada, including both permanent and temporary residents, was 774,756. ​

Here's a more detailed breakdown:​

• Permanent Residents: Canada welcomed 483,591 permanent immigrants in 2024.
  
  ​
• Non-Permanent Residents: There was a net increase of 291,165 non-permanent residents in 2024. This category includes temporary workers, international students, and asylum claimants, among others.
  
  ​
• Total Immigration: Adding the permanent and non-permanent residents, the total number of people who immigrated to Canada in 2024 is 774,756.

So are you still sure the number is 2 million or higher? source please.

Lastly, I am not against immigration, what I am against is uncontrolled mass immigration. What I am for is responsible immigration. So it means limiting how many people enter the country and it should be based on a merit system. We need doctors, engineers, lawyers. Not more uber drivers or delivery drivers or refugees leeching off the system.

I am not for uncontrolled immigration either. I'll aggree that the federal government (under Trudeau especially) seemed very chaotic at times. I especially did not like how they handled covid. But i am not a conspiracy type. It's difficult running a government, mistakes will be made. Trudeau's reign will be judged by history.

 

[2fast2slow]

Uncontrolled immigration is the biggest reason why Canada is on the downhill for the last 5 years+, it takes a blind eye to ignore the real issues like the housing crisis, food shortages/prices, health care capacity and the economy in general is in shambles.
Anyway the Liberals have put this country behind the eight ball so bad that even the immigrants might reconsider coming to Canada that’s the only silver lining.
But it’s true you’re not gonna convince a lot of people that boosting our population to 100 millions with immigrants is the way to go I think in retrospect even Trudeau knows he fucked up.

"Canada is on the downhill for the last 5 years+". Based on what metrics exactely? Did YOU decide that Canada is on the downhill for the last 5 years, or are you basing this on some kind of ligitimate study? Last I checked we are still amongts the richests nations in the world with the most freedoms. Housing is a problem in all parts of the developed world. I would rather live here than ANYWHERE else in the world. Is it perfect? no, of course not. But I reject your statement that Canada is on the downhill for the last 5 years.

"I think in retrospect even Trudeau knows he fucked up." . Knowing his personality, i seriously doubt he thinks he fucked up.

Anyway the Liberals have put this country behind the eight ball so bad that even the immigrants might reconsider coming to Canada that’s the only silver lining" . Hate to break it to you, they still want to come, and will continue to want to come...I wonder why? Maybe because we DONT suck as much as you make it sound?

 

[CLOUD 500]

sorry for you, but that is our democratic system. The Trudeau government was ligitimitaly elected and they get to decide how to spend your tax dollars. No soup for you! ... I mean, no choice for you!

Lol Yes the democratic system where 51% of the population impose their ways on the other 49%. Not.

"I am against the welfare state because no one is entitled to your labor." What does that even mean? I already have a job, and there are a million jobs I definitely dont want. It is well established in all economic circles that we need more labourers in Canada.

It means that labor is your wages. Every dollar is taxed and then it is given to someone else. I am surprised you do not get this concept. They are lying to everyone to justify their mass immigration policy. There is close to 10% unemployment rate, how do we need more laborers?? That makes no sense.

"For every dollar given away by the government it is a dollar that someone worked for that they will never see. It is treason to give taxpayers money to foreigners when we got so many in Canada struggling to pay their bills." . More BS. They are not "foreigners". Sounds very xenophobic. We are not sending money to someone in another country, they are people HERE fleeing a bad situation for a better situation. Again, don't think of it as "giving away" money, think of it as an investment! The immigrant population are very hard working and just want to make a better life for themselves and their family. Are they all perfect? of course not. Are we all perfect? I'll let you answer that one.

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"It is treason to give taxpayers money to foreigners when we got so many in Canada struggling to pay their bills." That is not the definition of treason. Look it up.

Treason is the crime of betraying one's country, typically by attempting to overthrow the government or assisting its enemies. It involves a violation of allegiance and can include acts like levying war against the state, providing aid to the enemy, or attempting to kill the head of state. A person who commits treason is known as a traitor.​

Treason has other definitions, it also means the act of betraying your country and the people which is what Trudeau did. There are taxes after taxes, that money gets sent to foreign countries??? Weird that does not bother you.

You are among the Canadians who believe our extremely high taxes would get us top tier healthcare, well kept roads, and programs for people who struggle. Now Canadians watch half their check disappear only to wait for years for critical surgeries, drive on roads covered in potholes, and walk down streets full of homeless with social programs that only benefit migrants. This is the slippery slope of Socialism. The price you pay for the assumption that you can trust your government with large sums of taxpayers money.

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Trump's insurrection of the capital and the later 'pardoning' of all who participated, criminals found guilty in a court of law after long court processes, now that sounds a lot closer to treason! Canada's welfare state is not treason. Not even close.

"What about all the homeless??" That's a separate issue. You are confounding things.

We are not talking about Trump but he did many things right except the tariffs.

We ususally say "bingo'' when someone is 100% right, not 50% right lol

Okay, I change it to half bingo.

The AG of Canada looked closely at the the contracts awarded to McKinsey, and while there were a lot of corners cut in the way the contracts were attributed, no allegations of direct corruption was even suggested. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/mc...al-government-auditor-general-hogan-1.7223893

Trudeau as usual bought his way out of all criminal and corruption. Any regular person would be in jail. It does not surprise me.

"This group's goal is to have 100 million people". Yeah I know, that was the point of my original post. I beleive we need to grow our population fast for the long term safety and prosperity of our nation.

Prosperity for who? The rich? Are you blind.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/city-warns-of-surge-in-homeless-population-by-2035-1.7573333

^^^^ Read this article and this is from CBC. The path we are headed is very bleak. Do you not care about all those people who cannot find an affordable place to live in? People struggling to live paycheck to paycheck. I not sure what your reality is.

"Did you fail your economics class? The most basic law of economics is the law of supply and demand and it is universal. The more demand there is, the higher the prices go". Naaww man, never heard of 'supply and demand', now you are just making stuff up bro! lol

Lol No wonder you do not understand.

Law of Supply and Demand in Economics: How It Works

The law of supply and demand explains how changes in a product's market price relate to its supply and demand. Demand for basic necessities is less responsive.

www.investopedia.com

^^^^ Here check this out. This is the most elementary law of economics and Carney knows this.

"They are leaches and I do not blame them" . Blameless leaches...that's a good one!



According to a quick search:

In 2024, Canada welcomed a total of 483,591 permanent immigrants, which is close to the annual target set by the Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada. Additionally, there was a net increase of 291,165 non-permanent residents, which includes temporary workers and students. This means the total number of people immigrating to Canada, including both permanent and temporary residents, was 774,756. ​

Here's a more detailed breakdown:​

• Permanent Residents: Canada welcomed 483,591 permanent immigrants in 2024.
  
  ​
• Non-Permanent Residents: There was a net increase of 291,165 non-permanent residents in 2024. This category includes temporary workers, international students, and asylum claimants, among others.
  
  ​
• Total Immigration: Adding the permanent and non-permanent residents, the total number of people who immigrated to Canada in 2024 is 774,756.

So are you still sure the number is 2 million or higher? source please.



I am not for uncontrolled immigration either. I'll aggree that the federal government (under Trudeau especially) seemed very chaotic at times. I especially did not like how they handled covid. But i am not a conspiracy type. It's difficult running a government, mistakes will be made. Trudeau's reign will be judged by history.

Canada population growth likely to be higher than forecast, CIBC says

Canada’s new immigration curbs have slowed increases in population, but government projections of near-zero growth over the next two years are likely “off the mark,” said an economist with Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce.

www.bnnbloomberg.ca

^^^^^ The official numbers are seriously under counted, the actual numbers are much higher.

Canada’s population hits 41M months after breaking 40M threshold | Globalnews.ca

Nine months after reaching 40 million people, Canada cracked a new threshold on Wednesday, the same day Statistics Canada released a report showing the pace of population growth.

globalnews.ca

^^^^ According to this Canada's population increased by 1 million in 9 months? So that means in one year it is roughly 1.3 million. The actual numbers are higher.

Canada took in 817K new immigrants in first four months of 2025

The latest federal immigration data shows that Canada welcomed more than 817,000 newcomers in the first four months of 2025 when tallying up permanent and non-permanent streams.

www.junonews.com

^^^^ In the first quarter of 2025, already 817,000 people entered. I am certain the actual numbers are higher. Do the math yourself, 2 million people sounds about right. Lol You got to include all, permanent residents, temporary residents, TFWs, asylum seekers, international students, all of it because they all contribute to demand.