Nice la Presse Article on XO this morning

Matos said:

So is that mean that police can fake to be a fake neighbour and make a complaint ?

What s wrong ... If they really want to eradicate prostitution world wide ... They have to take off all prostitution in Movies ... Series ... Books ...

How many series about that topic ... Spartacus = Full Prostition to Slave ... Diary of a Callgirl ... Girlfriend Experience .... Pretty Woman ... the list is long !

Why are they putting their dirty hand between 2 adult consents ? These people gonna pay a lot after their death ... i garante you ...

And more they gonna try to forbid it, more Chaos will follow ! Is that what they want ? Don t they understand how the Human Body and Behavior according to it works ?

This is not a good news !

Remember police officer can lie ... it s part of their job ... police officers are and always have been New World Order Dogs ...

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Matos said:

Why are they putting their dirty hand between 2 adult consents ?

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Lunaseraphim said:

This.

Now I wish we could all have some thoughts for girls who were abused and assaulted and coerced in these work environments... none of us will be impacted by this. A lot of these girls are still working elsewhere and still have the trauma of whatever happened when they were at these places. It's not hard to understand that an optimal service can't be given under these circumstances..

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Flabert said:

Worrying for one group of people (clients’ wellbeing) does not mean not worrying about another (providers’ wellbeing)

Especially since the risk of arrest has shifted to clients

Nobody supports 17 year olds in this. If true it would be horrible but sadly it can also be a pretext because it is so clearly despicable…

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maladras said:

Well, at least one of them wasn't an adult for starters.

The rest of what you wrote... dude, go outside. You've had enough internet for this week.

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Matos said:

Why are they putting their dirty hand between 2 adult consents ? These people gonna pay a lot after their death ... i garante you ...

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hankiepankie said:

Reasons to worry go beyond criminal liability. People were arrested and there might be a trial. Who knows what the prosecutors will submit as evidence. We know they have all the numbers and if they are used in the trial they become part of the public record

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Halloween Mike said:

Hi everyone,

Maybe you noticed, maybe you didn't, but i have been very silent on the board lately. While it would be off topic to say why (and i am not ready to talk about it), i still wanted to comment on this particular post due to the serious nature of it.

So for a start i want to say that even tough i never been someone to book "often", having maybe 3-4 bookings at Xo maximum per years (with 1 or 2 indies and maybe 2-3 in other agencies), i never noticed anything or was told anything in regard with this article. I did had SPs ocasionally mention other clients bad behaviors to me, but i never heard of bad situations with the agency itself. I asked a few times the SPs i saw if it was good in the agency and they always answered positively.

I met Uncle Sam a few times but it was very long ago, before he started the agency (in the old GTs). I did exchanged messages over the board and by email after, but thats it. He was always nice to me. I am not saying this to excuse him or anything, but simply to say i couldn't had any hints of any issues.

That said, i am not naive and obviously over all these years with all these different women, its bound that not everything would be sunshine and rainbows. Now i understand the moral dilema of "agencies vs indies", both from different clients AND indies perspectives, and it is a very slippery slope to go and i fear no matter how i try my hardest to present it, i am bound to displease someone. I did try during my years to stay away from the "underbelly" and anything that looked too shady. The reality tough is that there is bad stuff happening on both agency and indy side. There will never be a 100% safe and "ethical" way to operate in this business as a client. I know that from certain Indies point of view(i am not gonna name anyone) they have their way to operate and they consider this the ethical way, but i never hidden that i do have issues with certain parts especially when it comes to clients forfeiting all their "protections". So even not taking into account the disparity of cost between the 2 "formats", it may simply be easier to book in agencies for certain clients at certain times.

Personally i had already decided to take a break from most of the hobby unrelated to this article because of "other stuff" (that i may or may not talk about at some point) so it won't really impact me on the present. But it will pick my curiosity to follow this... Will this lead to a huge shake up in the business or will it be another C-36? I don't know. Time will tell.

With that said, stay safe everyone.

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Matos said:

@LC18 : J étais sous l émotion et je trouve que cela a un lien avec le sujet en cours non ?

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transatlantic said:

I still think agency (in Canada) still safer than independents. The independents have your actual information as part of verification; one can only trust one don’t get extorted by an independent.

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transatlantic said:

You guys were smart enough to use burners, Right? Right?

I still think agency (in Canada) still safer than independents. The independents have your actual information as part of verification; one can only trust one don’t get extorted by an independent.

Just as there are agencies that have lines they don’t cross (which XO at some point allegedly decide to cross), same go for independents.

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Julia Sky said:

The lack of screening and the lack of fucks given are some of the main reasons why people experience traumatic bullshit at agencies. Or in this industry in general. I used to be someone who didn't screen. It was not a pretty time for me as an escort.

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CLOUD 500 said:

The agencies are the biggest reason that prices remained very competitive. Agencies are also very convenient, no government ID or deposit needed.

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maladras said:

I was always kind of uncomfortable with agencies, I understand they can be beneficial in some cases but they're also more likely to involve exploitative situations. I guess I'll stick with indies, this is just another reason.

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LeDodo said:

Conveniency of the clients traded for traumatic bullshit for the SP (in some cases, just to not to generalize)

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CLOUD 500 said:

Agencies is what made the hobby interesting. But I see it going the way the US did. If there were no agencies I would do other things, not book an Indy. Agencies kept the rates competitive and there was no complicated booking system, just a simple text was all I needed. This post is spot on.

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LeDodo said:

There are no more agencies in the US?

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CLOUD 500 said:

From what I understood most got shut down by LE. But perhaps @EagerBeaver can shed some light on this and if LE would go after the clients.

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