Of those 4 I've only seen you and Nora and I'd be a desiccated corpse with an erection if I wasn't 6 hours away from you both.
Have you ever met a SP that you were hyped up for but then met her & felt so disappointed?
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As for me I didn't meet Savanna but can certainly vouch for the 3 other soul suckers lol
can u please explain what PSE is to you then if your GFE includes cimsw and cof?I only charged 350$h until very recently. If you have certain expectations you have to tell the SP before, not everyone wants the same thing.
Also, it's very clear in all my ads that I offer a GFE service.. not PSE, even if I offer cimsw, cob and cof. sometimes people don't read carefully and it causes problems because they are expecting an experience I just don't offer.
Same.. it makes me sad when clients are disappointed but I wish I knew exactly what went wrong so I can get better in the future..
Honestly for a lot of clients PSE includes anal, face fucking, deep throat, rough sex, dirty talking and stuff like that. It's more about the energy of the booking too. I've had to explain this several times and I think it's pretty clear what I have to offer.
Anyways the moral of the story is : if you don't want an underwhelming experience, say what you want and ask the right questions.
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Ahh gotcha. idc about anal, but I kind of assumed if a sp is down with cimsw shes down with DT and FF...which is kind of illogical in hindsight
I literally cant enjoy any CIM/COF/CIMSW service because i just can’t reach the finish line last time was Feb, 2025 but those services are something id enjoy. But im not looking for PSE
but those services are something id enjoy. But im not looking for PSE
It is illogical, yeah..
I only add cimsw to my service because I'm down with it and many enjoy it, but that doesn't mean someone can try to dominate me or that I'm going to put on a full porn star show. I'm very open about the fact that I'm not a porn star.
I think this is getting off topic. I'll let the boys go back to talking about their disappointing experiences
I so get that. Took me a long time and an awful lot of tries before I landed on two... Now down to one unfortunately
After becoming a regular to an agency, Usually when the bookers recommend a particular girl to me, they were usually on the spot. But this one time I was so wrong. And that was on me, I didn’t do my homework. She had stellar reviews in the first few pages and they were mostly poor by the end. I should’ve had a quick check before booking her
Physically she was my type
Exotic looking check, late 20s check, speaks English check a bit too skinny for my taste but very leans and has strong shoulder and legs.
As usual I offer to take her coat, offer her a glass of wine, some snacks and get to know her. It was also a counselling session, her complicated relationship with her bf who was also a client. It gets really heavy and I guess we will not do anything else that night.
At one point she grabbed the vodka bottle in my room and chug it and starts to chug every booze available. I was worried about her well-being more than anything else. Texted the agency to pick her up asap and tried my best to stop her from a potential alcohol poisoning. That girl was small but she was strong and I can barely stop her.
Then suddenly she told me to get undressed we need to do the deed now and start to take off her clothes. I told her it’s fine we don’t have much time left and her driver should come soon to pick her up. Then she started crying and accuse me I find her ugly just like her client bf and that’s why he is still paying other women to sleep with them.
I was praying the driver to come and it took him sometime to show up.
The agency apologized and offered to credit me a free session next time.
Physically she was my type
Exotic looking check, late 20s check, speaks English check a bit too skinny for my taste but very leans and has strong shoulder and legs.
As usual I offer to take her coat, offer her a glass of wine, some snacks and get to know her. It was also a counselling session, her complicated relationship with her bf who was also a client. It gets really heavy and I guess we will not do anything else that night.
At one point she grabbed the vodka bottle in my room and chug it and starts to chug every booze available. I was worried about her well-being more than anything else. Texted the agency to pick her up asap and tried my best to stop her from a potential alcohol poisoning. That girl was small but she was strong and I can barely stop her.
Then suddenly she told me to get undressed we need to do the deed now and start to take off her clothes. I told her it’s fine we don’t have much time left and her driver should come soon to pick her up. Then she started crying and accuse me I find her ugly just like her client bf and that’s why he is still paying other women to sleep with them.
I was praying the driver to come and it took him sometime to show up.
The agency apologized and offered to credit me a free session next time.
I think Mtl is just the best city in N. America for this stuff...so its a "buyer's market"
Add to that the lower cost of living and prices and in general the women here being more attractive than other cities...youre working in the hardest city so ofc you'll do better on tour
I'm still doing good in montreal... but I see what you mean.
It's pretty simple to understand. The agencies here in MTL are stacked with SP's who provide the same or far better service then Indy's at a lower rates. Indy's,unless they engage in a Extreme/fetish/kink then i can understand the boosted rates other than that I don't see the point
I'm sure the indie girls are a blast and provide their own unique amazing service tho. I'm looking at you LunaS haha
Cheers all
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I understand that perspective, but there are a few reasons why independents often charge more.
With an independent, you’re communicating directly with the provider from start to finish. There’s no booker, no agency filtering messages, and no middleman involved. That usually creates a more personalized experience and allows both people to build some rapport before meeting.
Agency appointments can sometimes feel a bit more “rush rush” because they’re often structured around volume and tight scheduling. Independents generally have more flexibility and can offer a more relaxed, personalized atmosphere rather than a one-size-fits-all experience.
Many clients also appreciate that it feels less transactional and more natural, with a stronger GFE-style connection and attention to chemistry.
Agencies and independents both serve different markets, but for many clients, the direct communication, flexibility, and more personal experience are what justify the higher rate.
Just do whatever float your boat and don’t shame either business lol
From my point of view, whether the take is positive or negative, it’s all part of the discussion. I don’t believe in storybook endings in this field. Like Lea said, whatever floats your boat.
Some people look at a Rolex and feel the 30k price is justified. Others see a watch that tells the same time as any other and happily buy a $500 one instead.
At the end of the day, everyone wins, because 98% of SPs and clients get exactly what they’re looking for.
Cheers to all.
I almost booked her as she was affiliated with FKS back then and with Indy Companions before she retired. I first set up a 4 hour engagement but a few FKS members gave some slight warnings so I switched things to two hours. Then she cancelled stating she is going to have a period. LOL. I guess I dodged some sort of bullet.
I would say Chise at Zyramuse. Met her yesterday. Based on previous experiences in the MP and asking booking in advance to ensure the fit would match my expectations, I was disappointed. Made sure to let the booker know and they handled my feedback well. Will return to Zyramuse but not to see Chise.
I used to use Euphoria and VOG. Agencies have beautiful SP and convenient. I sometimes go when low on funds but I think indy service better. I like knowing there's not a bunch of clients before and after me and I see the lady is more relaxed. If I'm disappointed I just drop a load and leave.
I don't completely understand the point of comparing us to Rolex when Lea explained perfectly clearly why the experience of seeing an indy provider can be very different from booking an escort at an agency.
I get that a lot of clients just want a 1 hour session that's basically a succession of acronyms, but not everyone does. Agencies use a certain format and they dictate industry standards, which by the way are not set in stone and have changed often over the years and are different based on location. I think it's a legitimate choice to work for an agency and I can see why people do it.
My issue is that as an indy whose only source of income is sex work, I end up having to recreate that format. Obviously a client who is into that type of experience may not see the point in paying more, and often I have to offer an incentive for these clients to see me, like including acronyms that are normally offered as extras, a special or another way to make them curious about booking me even if their preference is agencies.
However a client who is looking for more of a connection, longer dates, an unrushed service, a new experience etc will often find it more advantageous to book an indy over somebody who is at an agency. It's also easier for clients to know who they're dealing with when they book certain indies because they read our social media, they see our personal style, etc. It's easier to figure out if it's a good match, and that's important for a lot of clients...
Just for perspective, in other big cities, agency rates are much higher than here and closer to what your average reputable indy in Montreal charges. This comparison to luxury items doesn't hold up when "high end escorting" is far from common here, maybe to Merb users 350 to 500$ per hour is too expensive but this is considered mid range in most bigger Canadian cities.. even in Halifax where you have no agencies and very few providers, clients expect to pay 350+ for GFE. In a lot of places, GFE doesn't even exist. In the past, it was also way less common even here..
Just look at what a lot of American providers charge, most of whom don't even offer GFE or not officially and very YMMV. It'll make less sense to compare indies here to Rolex watches..
I know all of this might seem off topic but I think those are relevant reflections that might help some reframe their experiences.
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