Agencies with different pricing tiers

[Rusty Staub]

Am I the only one that this really confuses and generally bothers? Maybe I am old fashioned, but I like things simple.

I am think of one popular agency that has girls at 220/200/180/160/150 per hour

Other one has some girls at 200, some at 180, and many others on special nightly at 160.

As a result, most agencies now have a regular rate and a "VIP" rate which is $20 or so more

This inevitably ends with a girl thinking she is being shortchanged (you give her 160 and she was expecting 180 as happened to me once) and killing the mood.

I tip my cap to an agency like Asservissante which has all their girls at one price.

 

[Aeolus]

Am I the only one that this really confuses and generally bothers? Maybe I am old fashioned, but I like things simple.

I can appreciate your concern, but on the flip side, by having different pricing tiers, agencies are able to attract additional girls who will only work for more than the going rate. These girls might not otherwise turn tricks or might instead go indy at rates even greater than those charged by agencies. Moreover, girls agree to differing rates to regulate the demand for their services up or down. In the case of girls who are hungry for cash and willing to work for less, this benefits us. I've seen a few girls at $180/hr who could have easily fetched more. If it means greater selection for us and more competition amongst the girls for our business, I don't mind the differing rates. While the differing rates can be confusing, I think the net benefit to us makes the tiered pricing structure worthwhile.

 

[rumpleforeskiin]

I don't think they're doing themselves any favors. Last week I was trying to contact an indy girl I'd seen a couple of time a couple of years back. While waiting to hear from her, I contacted an agency who advertises here but has no rates on their website. I asked and was told the girl I was interested in was at $180. I took the information under advisement. I then heard back from the indy girl and went to see her. When I got home, I found that the agency girl I'd been interested in was on "Special" at $150. Had I been told that at the outset, 90 minutes before her "Special" was posted, my day might have worked out differently.

 

[EagerBeaver]

This is nothing new. Everyone is behaving like this is some new development. I can recall Sweet Dreams had 3 or 4 price tiers back in 2001-2003, and being praised by some. This pricing model is older than all of you. It has and will outlive all of you. It's like starting an argument over whether the Earth is flat. Everyone can believe what they want but the agency would not be doing it if it did not work for them and their ladies. I am pretty sure I saw a thread on this exact same topic 9 years ago (probably on TBD) in regards to Sweet Dreams doing it. The same issues were discussed then as are being discussed now. Another, similar thread will be started 9 years from now. And then another 18 years from now. And so on and so on like Prometheus rolling the rock up the proverbial fucking mountain again and again and again!

It was also done by splinter agencies which were created to effect the price model, such as Platinum which was an offshoot agency owned by the same owner as Dangerous Curves at the time. Another splinter agency example: A Forbidden Fantasy, HDH offshoot of Celine's Fantasies. There were other examples as well. During the height of the HDH revolution 2002-2005, it was more common as a practice than it is now if you factor in the so called splinter agencies.

10-4Roger, that law is bullshit as applied here. Anyone can create a splinter agency and pay all the ladies a different rate that is the same rate to get around that law. If you cannot see that and don't know it has already happened a million times you are a very poor student of the history of the Montreal Escort Business.

 

[rumpleforeskiin]

If you cannot see that and don't know it has already happened a million times you are a very poor student of the history of the Montreal Escort Business.

I wonder if Concordia has a course on the subject. In the sociology department? Economics?

According to Uncyclopedia: "With 15 different universities, the island has the largest student-to-prostitute (s/p) ratio in the world - just slightly ahead of Las Vegas and Berkeley." http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Montreal

 

[sexxxymtl]

I can appreciate your concern, but on the flip side, by having different pricing tiers, agencies are able to attract additional girls who will only work for more than the going rate. These girls might not otherwise turn tricks or might instead go indy at rates even greater than those charged by agencies. Moreover, girls agree to differing rates to regulate the demand for their services up or down. In the case of girls who are hungry for cash and willing to work for less, this benefits us. I've seen a few girls at $180/hr who could have easily fetched more. If it means greater selection for us and more competition amongst the girls for our business, I don't mind the differing rates. While the differing rates can be confusing, I think the net benefit to us makes the tiered pricing structure worthwhile.

Just wanted to comment that just because a girl works for less money doesn't always mean that they are money hungry... Some are... But some aren't... Plus it also depends on the service that they provide... Everyone has a different ideas of GFE service... Do they offer real GFE service or do they think that just kissing someone is enough... And then you have the very few who just like to have fun!!! lol

 

[sapman99]

Priority on the to-see list

Since this is a new year, I figured it was time to dust off the list of ladies I'd like to meet. So I went around the review threads, the agency sites, etc.

In the end, price was not a factor when deciding "if" a lady goes on the list. But it will come into play this way: lets say I want to "partake" and there are two of the "listed" ladies available, both of which suit my mood that evening. All things being equal, I would more than likely opt for the one asking the lower fee.

If one is to repeat this scenario over and over given the number of ladies "on duty" every night, it may be a while before I do meet the higher priced ones.

I live in Montréal, which also changes things a little: visiting punters want to "max out" their time here and may spring for the extra dough. I can just decide to call it a night and wait until someone to my taste and at a price I am comfortable with is on shift.

 

[Aeolus]

just because a girl works for less money doesn't always mean that they are money hungry... Some are... But some aren't... Plus it also depends on the service that they provide...

Fair enough. I suppose some girls might charge less because they offer less. There are some conscientious providers out there who have shown me that they want to deliver value to the customer (i.e. the girl who refused my tip because she amazingly blamed herself for my inability to climax a second time). A girl might also charge less for other reasons too (i.e. looks and age).

 

[rumpleforeskiin]

Here is an agency that seem to understand how to attract the clientele.
https://merb.cc/vbulletin/showthrea...ght-with-nice-gfe-girls-.-Big-opening-special

Really? What kind of clientele do you think they`ll attract on price alone? If they knew how to attract a clientele, they`d have put up an attractive website with enticing pictures before launching their operation. What you have here, amid misspellings galore and no capitalization, is a list of low price girls with nothing whatsoever to bring in the business but a low price.

My first reaction on seeing this post was to click out as quickly as I clicked in.

I`m pretty much in line with Sapman. I have a list and, when the time is ripe, I start with those at $150-$160 and work my way up and usually have to go no higher thanks to the fact that someone, Chloe/Candyshop, Sinful Sandy, Devilish, or MyMontrealModel, to name a few, always has an attractive offering in that range. It seems there`s a new agency nearly every week these days.

 

[EagerBeaver]

I think the OP was focusing on one agency (Angel Escorts) and I have no problem with the pricing tier. There is something for everyone. If you want to only pay $150, then do it. If you want to see an HDH at $220, go for it. More variety is better, not worse. I personally feel like if having a pricing tier attracts more ladies, then an agency should do it. In the final analysis all that matters is how much money a lady is making and if she is not making money at a higher rate, you will start seeing specials offered on her. Personally, I am leery of any lady on whom "specials" are being offered because that either means she is getting no bookings or not as many as she would like.

Supply and demand shakes it all out so do not try to control that which you cannot control. The market forces are more powerful than all of us, they are more powerful than the agencies and they are more powerful than the ladies. They dictate the final rate. It is the same as in other businesses. Nobody on this board has ever prevented me or stopped me from making an HDH or an LDL booking. It is called the rational analysis theory and I forget who came up with it but I learned it in freshman year of college and it is still valid as far as I know.

 

[EagerBeaver]

Paying higher price is not a jauge for quality of service. Lower price, however is a guarantee of quantity (more clients, more repeat).

This is a flawed analysis as some define quality of service as a girl who is "fresh" and has not had 13 different dicks in her mouth before yours was inserted. In case you don't know the HDH tier model has always been based on less being more, as well as more being more.

John Kenneth Galbraith's rational analysis theory again comes into play. I believe it was his theory anyway.

 

[CLAVIE]

At $180 , $100 goes for the girl, $20 for the driver, $30 for the booker, $30 for the manager.

How the booker made the same amount that the owner ? its illogical !

 

[hungry101]

This inevitably ends with a girl thinking she is being shortchanged (you give her 160 and she was expecting 180 as happened to me once) and killing the mood.

I.

I do agree with the above statement. A few times I had negotiated a rate with the booker. One time the agency volunteered to give me a discount due to their screw up. All three times the girl looked at me and acted surprised. Once the girl didn't believe me so I asked her to call the agency. She dialed the number and after a very short telephone conversation in french she looked at me and said "Lucky You." I didn't feel too bad but you shouldn't have to pass the red face test when the agency offers you a discount especially when they volunteer this reduced rate due to their screw up.

 

[CLAVIE]

It's good to have many different agencies and many different rates they offer, but the qualities of service did not change. It avoids the monopoly of a single agency that controls everything. Different pricing tiers is a lot benefits for all customers.

 

[hungry101]

It's good to have many different agencies and many different rates they offer, but the qualities of service did not change. It avoids the monopoly of a single agency that controls everything. Different pricing tiers is a lot benefits for all customers.

Free enterprise Clavie...I agree. Then we see how Adam Smith's "Invisible Hand" works. You can buy a Brand-x Thanksgiving Turkey for X$ per lb or you can buy a Butterball for 2X$ Lb. It's the same damn turkey!!!!

 

[Aeolus]

A few times I had negotiated a rate with the booker. One time the agency volunteered to give me a discount due to their screw up. All three times the girl looked at me and acted surprised.

Agencies need to do a better job at making sure they and their girls are on the same page. This goes for not only their pay rates but also the services they offer.

A girl working for an agency that charges $180 per hour can easily go to another agency that charges $130 per hour and she will still make her $100 and offer the same service (she is the same girl after all) it all depends of the "structure" of the agency.

I'm not so sure about that. If the difference is $50, I think the girl would definitely be clearing less. I don't think dropping one's rate by this much would be a good career move. If I see a girl go from a higher rate at one agency to a considerably lower rate (more than $20 less) at another agency, I assume (rightly or wrongly) that she's probably got some issues - be they unreliability, performance, high mileage, or addiction. A minor decrease in rate can be attributed to variable agency fee structures, but a big decrease in rate is a red flag. Also, a girl who doesn't pay a driver fee still has to assume the cost of transportation to and from calls. How many agencies don't charge for a driver (either directly or indirectly through higher agency fees) and provide transportation?

 

[sweetwater]

Whatever a lady's rate is and she is satisfied with her net at the end of the day, week, or whatever, then that rate is what she should charge. If I want to see a specific lady and I can't afford her at the time, I'll either wait until next time when I have the amount needed, or (more than likely) see a lady that has a rate I can afford. If I want to see a lady and she has gone on special, that is a plus for me. Price is not the only factor determining whom I want to see.

Sweetwater

 

[daydreamer41]

A girl working for an agency that charges $180 per hour can easily go to another agency that charges $130 per hour and she will still make her $100 and offer the same service (she is the same girl after all) it all depends of the "structure" of the agency.
At $180 , $100 goes for the girl, $20 for the driver, $30 for the booker, $30 for the manager.
At $130 , $100 goes for the girl , $30 for the manager , no driver fees , no booker fees.

Paying higher price is not a jauge for quality of service. Lower price, however is a guarantee of quantity (more clients, more repeat).

She will probably accept the Cool Taxi coupons too. LOL

I agree with Roger. When Les Filles de Msr. Jacques was in his hey day, a very in demand escort had told me that she could make $20 more an hour at a higher end escort agency and $50 more at a premium escort agency, but she made more money with Jacques, because she got way more calls with Jacques. She said that price was a factor in most guys determination of which agency they would use. Jacques had the quality and price back then. I wish it was true today also.

 

[pat98]

I also understand why the Sex Industry is not targeted in the War against Fiscal Invasion.
http://philbelanger.blogspot.com/2010_03_01_archive.html

Excellent !
Ce blog est à lire de... toute urgence !
Merci Roger