Ask us anything part 3

[Lunaseraphim]

I read ads all the way down personally. As many here may have already noticed I’m more of a PSE oriented type of trick (basically come in, bust a nut and leave) Here are few exemples of my interactions when reaching out to prostitutes to inquire about their services and rates. I’m always polite and go straight to the point avoiding useless back and forth texting.View attachment 84792View attachment 84792View attachment 84795

Like I said, this information isn't on twitter for safety reasons..

Also obviously if someone is working at a spa, they will have different rates for meeting outside.. A lot of SP's who work at spas advertise themselves particularly when things are slow, because there aren't always a lot of walk ins. In the case of some of the girls you messaged, it seems like they posted an ad for their work at the spa, but also gave you their other rate. I don't think you did anything wrong in the way you approached these people.

I haven't looked at them recently but I wonder if ads for MPs are a little different.. SP's may offer a different service outside, and even within the spa everyone has a different service and charges a different rate. I've seen that cause conflict between girls before. I've also seen people charge certain things as extra and some other people didn't, which can also cause conflict if it's known. Also MPs can't blatantly advertise sexual services. (from my understanding..) I think if you're often messaging MP workers, it makes sense that the ads are a bit vague and info may be missing.. And it's possible that the SW'rs (we tend to prefer that term rather than prostitute lol but I'm not offended) you contacted didn't add a rate because they didn't want to get in trouble with their boss or with other girls who work there. Who knows.

I advertise myself on leolist and many legit and fantastic SP's do as well, but it's a chaotic platform, with lots of scams and poorly designed ads (even mine isn't the best because I don't show my face on it due to too many thefts and a lot more traffic than any other platform, and the quality of messages I receive from clients is so low that it doesn't make me want to make any effort), not a lot of options, etc. I've seen people not have a rate on their tryst ad too, and on their website, and I'm not really sure what the logic behind this is, but ads seem to have more info generally and everything is verified.

 

[Jordangoat23]

Like I said, this information isn't on twitter for safety reasons..

Also obviously if someone is working at a spa, they will have different rates for meeting outside.. A lot of SP's who work at spas advertise themselves particularly when things are slow, because there aren't always a lot of walk ins. In the case of some of the girls you messaged, it seems like they posted an ad for their work at the spa, but also gave you their other rate. I don't think you did anything wrong in the way you approached these people.

I haven't looked at them recently but I wonder if ads for MPs are a little different.. SP's may offer a different service outside, and even within the spa everyone has a different service and charges a different rate. I've seen that cause conflict between girls before. I've also seen people charge certain things as extra and some other people didn't, which can also cause conflict if it's known. Also MPs can't blatantly advertise sexual services. (from my understanding..) I think if you're often messaging MP workers, it makes sense that the ads are a bit vague and info may be missing.. And it's possible that the SW'rs (we tend to prefer that term rather than prostitute lol but I'm not offended) you contacted didn't add a rate because they didn't want to get in trouble with their boss or with other girls who work there. Who knows.

I advertise myself on leolist and many legit and fantastic SP's do as well, but it's a chaotic platform, with lots of scams and poorly designed ads (even mine isn't the best because I don't show my face on it due to too many thefts and a lot more traffic than any other platform, and the quality of messages I receive from clients is so low that it doesn't make me want to make any effort), not a lot of options, etc. I've seen people not have a rate on their tryst ad too, and on their website, and I'm not really sure what the logic behind this is, but ads seem to have more info generally and everything is verified.

Salute to you for not being offended and thank you for answering my questions, I now understand a little more why your demographic move the way that they do with the blurred faces, the hidden rates and services. Stay blessed!

 

[Lunaseraphim]

Hypothetically, if an SP I don't see regularly is running a promo more than a few times a month, I'd be more inclined to wait for it before booking. I can think of a few circumstances where I'd only book a specific SP if she ran a promo:
1. The promotion applies to one or more of my preferred meeting types that an SP typically prices beyond what I consider reasonable and/or financially responsible to pursue.
2. The promotion is offered by an SP with whom I had a disappointing previous experience, but I have at least a mild interest in giving things another try.
3. If I'm highly uncertain about the likelihood of a successful encounter with an SP—such as due to mixed or zero reviews, no social media presence, limited photos, no affiliation with reputable SPs or orgs, or a brand new ad on an ad platform with weak controls/verification methods—and her rates are in what I consider the upper range, I might only consider seeing her if she offers a promotion.

makes sense!

Salute to you for not being offended and thank you for answering my questions, I now understand a little more why your demographic move the way that they do with the blurred faces, the hidden rates and services. Stay blessed!

i'm not offended! when it comes to hidden rates, some indy's have them, but i would say that's very typical of mp's (and i assume agencies) because we are paid very low. for example when i was working at an spa, i'd make 150$h for basic full service. (the client pays more because he has to pay for the room) this is why some indy's who just got out of mp's start at very low rates, and why some girls who start think 160-220 are standard hourly rates.. (which they aren't, or at least not anymore).. this is why i charged everything as an extra, and there were things i didn't do at a mp that i do as an indy without an extra charge. a lot of sp's work at mp's because they don't want to do gfe, or at least not with a large number of clients.

 

[Michelle Gunn]

Why do many prostitutes refrain from posting their rates {as oppose to agencies} on Leolist or their Twitter (X) account forcing us to reach out to them to inquire? What is the mindset behind this way of doing things?

P.S.: I also find that many of them call us “time wasters” after we find out how much they charge and then we decide we will not book them. [not rate shaming here]*

Why do so many clients either not read my posted rates or not click through to my website where rates are posted and then text asking about rates?

 

[Jordangoat23]

Why do so many clients either not read my posted rates or not click through to my website where rates are posted and then text asking about rates?

I don’t know, did you ask them? #HatDontFit

 

[Lunaseraphim]

I don’t know, did you ask them? #HatDontFit

We do ask them.. when we do, they are often rude in their response..

Like I said, very often ppl save our numbers but don't remember the ad and may not even know who we are at all

 

[Jaxan]

Why do so many clients either not read my posted rates or not click through to my website where rates are posted and then text asking about rates?

What percentage of your inquiries do this? It's definitely a red flag, if someone can't take the time to read/understand who they are seeing. Do you bother responding, or just write them off immediately?

 

[Jordangoat23]

We do ask them.. when we do, they are often rude in their response..

Like I said, very often ppl save our numbers but don't remember the ad and may not even know who we are at all

You’re better than me, that would be an automatic block delete if I was a prostitute myself (the not reading the add from start to finish part)*.

 

[Michelle Gunn]

What percentage of your inquiries do this? It's definitely a red flag, if someone can't take the time to read/understand who they are seeing. Do you bother responding, or just write them off immediately?

I don't calculate the percentage in order to keep sane. I respond to the vast majority of inquiries (everyone but the 4am "dispo?" guys). Yes, it's a red flag, but I tell myself that I'm a politician so I answer the question I wanted to be asked instead of the one I was actually asked. It usually looks like "Hello, I'm good how are you? Where did you find my ad?" or "Hi! I'm Michelle, what's your name?"

 

[Jaxan]

I don't calculate the percentage in order to keep sane. I respond to the vast majority of inquiries (everyone but the 4am "dispo?" guys). Yes, it's a red flag, but I tell myself that I'm a politician so I answer the question I wanted to be asked instead of the one I was actually asked. It usually looks like "Hello, I'm good how are you? Where did you find my ad?" or "Hi! I'm Michelle, what's your name?"

In any industry, clientele can range the spectrum, that is why I asked if you had a rough idea of how many inquiries fell under this category. Your profession is much more difficult though, as I am sure there are alot of inquiries that fall under the time waster category. Not to mention, the concerns for safety and potential bad clients. I can't imagine the amount of time/effort that needs to be invested, to vet/book potential clients.

 

[Michelle Gunn]

In any industry, clientele can range the spectrum, that is why I asked if you had a rough idea of how many inquiries fell under this category. Your profession is much more difficult though, as I am sure there are alot of inquiries that fall under the time waster category. Not to mention, the concerns for safety and potential bad clients. I can't imagine the amount of time/effort that needs to be invested, to vet/book potential clients.

It really depends on a million different factors like where I have ads, or have refreshed my "online now", season, day of the week etc. There can really be dozens in a day or zero.

 

[WAZZAP1]

Je charge 100$ d'extra par heure parce que le service est plus complexe et demande plus de préparations.. j'ai eu une bonne experience avec un couple! Mais je m'attends a parler aux deux personnes et à ce que les attentes soient clairement definies.. j'ai entendu que souvent un des membres du couple mets de la pression pour avoir une expérience avec une TDS et c'est une situation qui me rendrait extrèmement inconfortable.. si c'est un couple HF je préfère donner plus de mon attention à la femme car souvent le but de ces rencontres est de permettre aux femmes d'expérimenter avec la bisexualité

Merci d'avoir pris le temps de répondre à ma question Luna, j'apprécie.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

You’re better than me, that would be an automatic block delete if I was a prostitute myself (the not reading the add from start to finish part)*.

Like Michelle said, a very large amount of inquiries are from people who didn't read the ad fully and are being impolite. Even just this weekend I had people contact me and waste my time only to ask if I offer x service which isn't in my ad..

 

[WAZZAP1]

Like Michelle said, a very large amount of inquiries are from people who didn't read the ad fully and are being impolite. Even just this weekend I had people contact me and waste my time only to ask if I offer x service which isn't in my ad..

J'imagine qu'ils se disent que tout a un prix et ils s'essaient...

 

[Nachoy]

Have you thought about retirement plan?
What do escorts do when they get old and no longer desired by clients to be booked?

 

[Lunaseraphim]

J'imagine qu'ils se disent que tout a un prix et ils s'essaient...

Parfois, oui. C'est arrivé que je me fasse dire ça, dans ces mots là exactement. Des fois c'est difficile de savoir si la personne me niaise ou si elle s'essaie vraiment parce qu'elle croit que je suis désespérée, ce qui n'est pas le cas.. Certains clients aussi ne comprennent pas qu'on a le droit de ne plus offrir une option ou un service en particulier et vont mettre beaucoup de pression ou utiliser de la manipulation pour avoir ce qu'ils veulent.. Et ça ne marche pas, ou du moins pas avec moi, et pas avec la plupart des SP que je connais.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

Have you thought about retirement plan?
What do escorts do when they get old and no longer desired by clients to be booked?

I think everyone who does escorting thinks about their retirement plan this whole time. I've only been in this industry for about 3 years but all the sw'rs I've met have had other sources of revenue at least at some point during their career as an escort. I've also heard of 55-60 year old escorts. Not saying I'll still be escorting at that age cause I won't lol.. I'm just saying it's a thing and there is probably a demand for it. Personally in the next 5 years I want to get to a point where I make enough $$ otherwise and can be low volume and still reach my goals and feel financially stable and comfortable. I don't see myself being an escort anymore in 10 years, not because I'll be too old, but because it's a temporary journey for me. When I started in the industry I thought I'd only do it for a couple months, then a couple months turned to a year, and then a year turned to 3 years, and I had to start taking this job very seriously in many ways. It's a big part of my life currently, but it's not a part of my identity to be a sex worker.

 

[Julia Sky]

Have you thought about retirement plan?
What do escorts do when they get old and no longer desired by clients to be booked?

I think this is not a thing. I know escorts that are over 60 and still making money. Hell even if you're 96 years old and don't think you're attractive enough, there is for sure a market for a toothless glory hole.

Yes I've tought about retirement plan, and came to the conclusion I love this job too much. I'll retire one day but I'll keep seeing a select few regulars. I also have other business ideas but ultimately I do think people can do SW as long as they want and their body allows it.

 

[MCTJ]

Speaking of retirement; is it true that, despite making a decent amount of money (much more than the average person), most escorts tend to not think about the future and to spend their money carelessly?

 

[Giselle Montreal]

Speaking of retirement; is it true that, despite making a decent amount of money (much more than the average person), most escorts tend to not think about the future and to spend their money carelessly?

It's not a truth. Some are more responsible than others. Your judgement can apply to a lot of people in our rich society, many have debts and still spend carelessly.