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Gugu,
So true what you said but come on they know this will do nothing to curb human trafficking. This is a law imposed by the conservatives to impose their cheap moralism and theocracy. They want to appeal to the Evangelical base and social conservatives. It is much easier to get guns then to get healthcare for everyone, to book an escort, for a woman to have an abortion. All these things you mentioned are part of the platform of the right-wing conservatives. Many members here on this board like to place all the blame on feminists but feminists played no part in this. A republican senator introduced SESTA. The republicans removed net neutrality. This was all a beginning of the end of social liberty. You people better hope that the Scheer and his conservatives do not get into power in Canada because he is a bible fanatic and will finish up what Harper started and will very possible follow the lead of Trump.
So true what you said but come on they know this will do nothing to curb human trafficking. This is a law imposed by the conservatives to impose their cheap moralism and theocracy. They want to appeal to the Evangelical base and social conservatives. It is much easier to get guns then to get healthcare for everyone, to book an escort, for a woman to have an abortion. All these things you mentioned are part of the platform of the right-wing conservatives. Many members here on this board like to place all the blame on feminists but feminists played no part in this. A republican senator introduced SESTA. The republicans removed net neutrality. This was all a beginning of the end of social liberty. You people better hope that the Scheer and his conservatives do not get into power in Canada because he is a bible fanatic and will finish up what Harper started and will very possible follow the lead of Trump.
i keep hearing Trump but is every one forgetting the vp mike Pence is an evangelical . the ugly head of religion rears itself once again
be careful what you wish for . I cant stand hillary but boy now do i wish she got elected. i am lost without the erotic review and city vibe
i wonder how much longer we in the us will be able to get into merb
be careful what you wish for . I cant stand hillary but boy now do i wish she got elected. i am lost without the erotic review and city vibe
i wonder how much longer we in the us will be able to get into merb
edjohnson,
What you said is what I have been saying for a long time. But on this board we got so many conservative sheep who are in denial and put the blame on feminists and left-wing politicians. They could not be further from the truth. If Hilary was elected there would still be a net neutrality law and there would be no SESTA. If Harper was not elected there would be no Bill C-36. Remember people if you like this hobby never vote for a conservative/republican. The conservatives will never allow prostitution to exist since it goes against their bible beliefs.
What you said is what I have been saying for a long time. But on this board we got so many conservative sheep who are in denial and put the blame on feminists and left-wing politicians. They could not be further from the truth. If Hilary was elected there would still be a net neutrality law and there would be no SESTA. If Harper was not elected there would be no Bill C-36. Remember people if you like this hobby never vote for a conservative/republican. The conservatives will never allow prostitution to exist since it goes against their bible beliefs.
this is quite crazy... ignorant politicians making decisions about things they know nothing about. This is going to create a clusterfuck in anything related to the adult industry... not just escorting.
I would suggest any sps using email servers such as gmail and hotmail to also clear your contacts and all emails history once you've moved.
Also, consider registering new domains on other TLDs than .com .net .org .xxx and moving your hosting away from north america. Oh and any service such as Google Analytics will also probably be at risk.
And if choosing a EU based server, remember GPDR will start in May
Got a on site on wix, and other similar type of hosting provider... its not safe.
I would suggest any sps using email servers such as gmail and hotmail to also clear your contacts and all emails history once you've moved.
Also, consider registering new domains on other TLDs than .com .net .org .xxx and moving your hosting away from north america. Oh and any service such as Google Analytics will also probably be at risk.
And if choosing a EU based server, remember GPDR will start in May
Got a on site on wix, and other similar type of hosting provider... its not safe.
As far as I knoe GPDR is all about giving consent (and let the users have full retraction of his data) to any web site. But when a John goes to an SP website he is all about giving consent dont you think?
Just curious why you wrote that.
Cheers,
Bottom line... that little message showing on sites about consent is for EU cookie law. Not for GPDR... not even close. Consent is not enough and who actually tracks the consent setting? Most just have a javascript box popping for awareness.This is wrong and what many non-EU companies based think. Even in Canada, lots of people think PIPEDA is enough. It isn't.
Please do not take the word of some escort forum posting dude.... if you have a website and deal with European citizens (not IP location) or online traffic, I can't stress enough to reach out to your legal counsel.
I don't have access to my research notes at the moment but some main key points:
There are major changes!
1) Extented territory: Its not about IPs (or location) where the data is accessed from. Its about who accesses the information ex: your site, mobile app, 3rd party service on your site (ie Analytics, Mailchimp, etc..). The moment they are a EU citizen it triggers the extented territory. How they can fine the company is more challenging of course, but with PIPEDA in Canada trying to be more compliant with international laws, the bridge could be allowed - this part is still grey for us in Canada. Their definition is so rediculous that they mention their extended territories as being trigged even by languages available... ex: US has 1 official language. Offer content in French, German, etc.... its enough to consider you're trying to target European citizens... GPDR is in effect.
2) FInes: €20 million or up to 4% of the annual worldwide turnover of the preceding financial year in case of an enterprise, whichever is greater
3) What it concerns:
Right of access - upon requset, be able to provide details of what is tracked and stored and used. This includes systems you might not know are being used (do you have a webmaster, a web host, an email form, wordpress?) you better have better understanding of what steps they are taking. As you could be required to provide details on the actual user. Don't know how Google tracks users via your site? Using adwords conversion pixel? or Facebook audience building pixel? Its going to be your responsibility to make sure you're compliant.... this point alone will be a clusterfuck for a lot of small time busines operators. Take a shopify or wix site for example.... how many non technical users are there that are clients? Its not the vendors responsability anymore as you will be considered the Data Controller.
Right to erasure - If a citizen requests to be removed, you will have to and prove that it was removed
Data portability - Have the ability to export all information you have on a visitor or client (emails,tracking data, profiles). You don't think you have anything? Do you run ads on your site? The cookies they are setting and what they are collecting is part of it...
Data protection by design and by default - This defines how your systems are built... you will have to make sure that whatever tools you're using (ex: wordpress, mailchimp, facebook share button) are also under your protection.... oh and let's not forget about that vulnerable Wordpress themes... yup that will also be on you.
So my main fear isn't so much for the larger companies. And the smaller guy might be ok.
But let's take sites like merb or sps that basically hide the true operators of the site and its members/visitors. Consider a EU citizen that visits the site to simply read reviews. He has a right to exercise his GPDR right... sorry for the layout and typos and to cut short but I have to go.
Here's another fucked up example:
You're an SP using a virtual internet based phone number service. A Montrealer with citizenship in EU hits you up. He could in theory exercise his right in Europe on you.
You're a John, using the same typical burner system, an SP with EU citizenship could exercise her right on you... oh wait did you just sell your used fridge on letgo using that burner number... guess what information is going to get cross linked when burnerapp will be required to disclose a burnerapp history linked to the telphone companie operating that actual fake number....
Oh wait... did that packet travel through a EU based router... yup... let's exercise GPDR
Of course, how Canada will participate in the process isn't clear... it never is with these clueless idiots. Another great example on how clueless politicians are pushing laws forward without understanding the implications and actual security.... or if you're a conspiracy theorist... yet an additional layer to control its population.
This is quite the clusterfuck heading towards us... I pray it will be just yet another Y2K thing... but who the hell knows nowadays.
You're an SP using a virtual internet based phone number service. A Montrealer with citizenship in EU hits you up. He could in theory exercise his right in Europe on you.
You're a John, using the same typical burner system, an SP with EU citizenship could exercise her right on you... oh wait did you just sell your used fridge on letgo using that burner number... guess what information is going to get cross linked when burnerapp will be required to disclose a burnerapp history linked to the telphone companie operating that actual fake number....
Oh wait... did that packet travel through a EU based router... yup... let's exercise GPDR
Of course, how Canada will participate in the process isn't clear... it never is with these clueless idiots. Another great example on how clueless politicians are pushing laws forward without understanding the implications and actual security.... or if you're a conspiracy theorist... yet an additional layer to control its population.
This is quite the clusterfuck heading towards us... I pray it will be just yet another Y2K thing... but who the hell knows nowadays.
I think this is the main point. Here, LE and the prosecutors offices are interested only to prosecute street prostitution and, of course anything else truly criminal involving constraints by third parties. Take massage parlors for exemple. My understanding is that is is quite easy for the city council in USA to order LE to bust the place. It is not, here. Laval politicians, for instance, decided that they will not tolerate parlors anymore except for two or three located in industrial zonings. LE will not accept busting the places, mainly because the provincial prosecutor does not want them to do so. They will make visits but nothing else. So the only way for the city is by refusing to issu business permits, leading to eventual non criminal prosecutions. The legal principal should be quite clear: the criminal code should be used to prosecute real crimes, not morality.
As for the publicity of sexual services, I have no idea. We have not seen any clamp down initiatives yet. All escort agencies have online publicity. The impacts were mainly on the printed press. However I would not be surprised if the US were pressing the Canadian government to make sure american entrepreneurs do not move their servers to Canada. But that's pure speculation.
which local sites do you think will the extra traffic will re-route to?
what about in alberta? a lot of quebec girls do tours out west, and it is convenient sometimes to know where they are. i only know bp out west.
what about in alberta? a lot of quebec girls do tours out west, and it is convenient sometimes to know where they are. i only know bp out west.
If you have access to a popular girl's info (phone #, insta, twitter) you could probably google it and add the -backpage in google to filter it out (example google search query: 123-456-7890 -backpage) ... I'm going to guess that some sites will see their visibility increase over the next few weeks.
The good ones advertise on CAF, complete shill board ut the advertisements are there
Maybe leolist.cc will also profit from backpage closure in canada.
I remember seeing some girls ads on humchies last years with a paper mentionning leolist.cc hand written.
I don't know if they got paid to advertise them on competitor's ad's sites...
Anyway, I thing it gained popularity...
But I might be wrong too.
I never used it yet.
I remember seeing some girls ads on humchies last years with a paper mentionning leolist.cc hand written.
I don't know if they got paid to advertise them on competitor's ad's sites...
Anyway, I thing it gained popularity...
But I might be wrong too.
I never used it yet.
Unclebob. It's not about them getting paid to advertise for leolist. It's that they must have used the same picture on leolist. The way that site works is that you have 2 ways to advertise. 1- Just putting your ad and pictures or 2 - If you upload a picture holding a paper saying leolist,cc , they will label you as a " verified member" so potential clients will know it's your actual picture and not some amazonian/instagram amateur model!
http://reason.com/blog/2016/12/10/backpage-leaders-beat-pimping-charges-as
that happened a while ago and now with their new law coming up....
that happened a while ago and now with their new law coming up....
The start of some pushback from the msm?https://www.washingtonpost.com/blog...rkers-so-mad-about-it/?utm_term=.52619acbd3f0
Another mainstream variation on the same theme as Patron's WP article:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...s-us-cracks-down-on-online-ads-girls-will-die
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...s-us-cracks-down-on-online-ads-girls-will-die
from the washington post article:
investigation discovered that the classified ads website had been editing language to disguise listings for underage girls instead of deleting them, and an exposé by The Post revealed moderators actively solicited and even created similar ads.
i dont know whether to beleive this or not, despite the fact that I trust the washington post (as opposed to trump
)
I've often wondered if BP themselves post fake ads to inflate the number of postings. Sort of like Ashley Madison.
However, I have never seen an ad that suggested underage girls (and I have been following these ads for years).
An sp today told me how she was unhappy about the situation with BP.
Interesting times we live in...
investigation discovered that the classified ads website had been editing language to disguise listings for underage girls instead of deleting them, and an exposé by The Post revealed moderators actively solicited and even created similar ads.
i dont know whether to beleive this or not, despite the fact that I trust the washington post (as opposed to trump
)I've often wondered if BP themselves post fake ads to inflate the number of postings. Sort of like Ashley Madison.
However, I have never seen an ad that suggested underage girls (and I have been following these ads for years).
An sp today told me how she was unhappy about the situation with BP.
Interesting times we live in...
Do you believe your own eyes or a reporter that probably never looked at escort ads and just repeated information from law enforcement?
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