Bad Review Blackmail

[Montreal Sex City]

I agree with you and I am not sure if this SP is really in a position to lecture us about ethics and integrity. There is still a heavy cloud of suspicion around some of the reviews that were written about her. If I was in that member's position, I would have also lied and answered no.

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On the topic of blackmailing clients. I find the word blackmailing to be a bit exagereated. Though, I paid in the past for negative reviews I wrote on the board. Once with an outcall. The agency owner sent me a friendly PM asking when did the encounter take place. I naively replied. A few weeks later, I called back the agency. The owner asked me first if I was the one who wrote the review on the board. I denied of course. She said OK, but added that no girls were available. The review was by no means rude. I just said that the girl's service was mechanical. Another incident happened last year with a stripper.

So, I would not be surprised to hear that there is pressure on some members from some providers who have a glowing-reviews-only policy.

Let's forget about this SP and this SP and try to be objectif.

Let's say client X do call ladies from agency A, B and C, write reviews,
good or bad. One day, he decides that an agency D as a lady he
would like to see. The adventure is good, goes back, goes back,
then try another lady, goes back, goes back and out of the
blue he suddently finds that he is having a good time with
those ladies and the agency D.

Why do you think he would not review the ladies ?
Why would he lie about seeing those ladies ?

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[eastender]

No Obligation to Review

Let's forget about this SP and this SP and try to be objectif.

Let's say client X do call ladies from agency A, B and C, write reviews,
good or bad. One day, he decides that an agency D as a lady he
would like to see. The adventure is good, goes back, goes back,
then try another lady, goes back, goes back and out of the
blue he suddently finds that he is having a good time with
those ladies and the agency D.

Why do you think he would not review the ladies ?
Why would he lie about seeing those ladies ?

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There is no obligation to review every encounter nor is there any obligation to account to anybody on the boards for how someone spends their time especially in circumstances where someone else is trying to gain an advantage or benefit.

 

[Montreal Sex City]

There is no obligation to review every encounter nor is there any obligation to account to anybody on the boards for how someone spends their time especially in circumstances where someone else is trying to gain an advantage or benefit.

Yes, for sure.

Now explain why a reviewer would write a review to then remove it ?

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[eastender]

Human Nature

Yes, for sure.

Now explain why a reviewer would write a review to then remove it ?

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Human nature includes the right to change your mind.

 

[Montreal Sex City]

Human nature includes the right to change your mind.

Of course, on one board only ?

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[bumfie]

Over the past 10 years, I have been extremely fortunate to have had only a few encounters that I would have given a bad review to. Unless there is a compelling reason to mention it on the board, I just forget about it.

I know that negative reviews provide valuable info in cases where there is a clear ripoff or an SP is so outrageous that you can't let it go. For me, one was an SP who smelled so bad that I could not even complete the act. (This was years ago...no one current). I did post about that; if an SP and I don't click, I give it the benefit of the doubt and keep silent.

As for review blackmail, that's horrible.

 

[eastender]

Yes

Of course, on one board only ?

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Yes. Think it thru.

Does joining one board mean you HAVE to join another. Does advertising on one board mean you HAVE to advertise on another?

Reviewer decides he does not want to be linked any longer with another board and pulls his review. So be it.

 

[Montreal Sex City]

Yes. Think it thru.

Does joining one board mean you HAVE to join another. Does advertising on one board mean you HAVE to advertise on another?

Reviewer decides he does not want to be linked any longer with another board and pulls his review. So be it.

Ohhh, I see ...

That explains everything

There is no obligation to review every encounter nor is there any obligation to account to anybody on the boards for how someone spends their time especially in circumstances where someone else is trying to gain an advantage or benefit.

By the way, it was on this actual board, not another

Anymore stories about blackmailling or reverse blackmalling ?!

 

[bumfie]

Yes, one more thing, Jessy. Either send Janet and Claudia to my house for the next month, free of charge, or I will say terrible, terrible things about you....

 

[metoo4]

Yes, one more thing, Jessy. Either send Janet and Claudia to my house for the next month, free of charge, or I will say terrible, terrible things about you....

You REALLY want them at your house for a full month? 24/7, day-in, day-out? Remember, they're both woman so, probably both have a "nagging" tendency and both have PMS...

Just kidding... I'll take the same combo, but only 1 night. More would kill me!

 

[z/m(Ret)]

Simple....

Anyone with at least two braincells understands what benefit providers get from reviews.

That being said, the whole process of reviewing, by definition, belongs strictly and addresses itself strictly to clients. It's like a consumer review, end of story.

As stated earlier, clients are under no obligation to make publicity for providers.

Yes, for sure.

Now explain why a reviewer would write a review to then remove it ?

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His business. He's under no obligation to provide justification. Clients don't owe more to SP's than the agreed donation, respect and courtesy, neither do they have to be associated to both boards or any board at all.

 

[banger]

As stated earlier, clients are under no obligation to make publicity for providers.His business. He's under no obligation to provide justification. Clients don't owe more to SP's than the agreed donation, respect and courtesy, neither do they have to be associated to both boards or any board at all.

Agreed!....and if a client writes a review and then later deletes it, its his right and his business. Why would he have to justify it?

I dont review everyone I see either...and to say that I need to be a credible reviewer is absurd!!

I've written reviews on the boards that providers have copied and used on their personal websites. They didnt ask permission or even notify me that the reviews would be used. I guess its public domain once its posted.

On my last trip I stopped calling one agency because I did not like the way the sessions were going with their SP's. It was obvious that they were being told that I was Banger, a merb reviewer. Though the GFE services were there, I could tell that the session was a programmed one for their review....ah....no thanks!

I called another agency and I had much more natural, better encounters with their SP's...cause they didnt associate me as Banger on merb and were more focused on having a good time with me than the review they wanted to get....

Members who use their board handles to get better mileage are fooling themselves if they think its helping them have a better session...Calling an SP is a "sure" thing....all you have to be is polite , clean, and respectful and most Montreal providers will make the session enjoyable. How much eaisier do you want it???

I write reviews to re-live the moment, entertain with a good story, a ego boost, and as a thank you to the providers to promote other respectable clients to see them. Also I've gotten many tips from other reviews on merb and its a way of giving back to the community and encouraging other members to share their experiences.


Banger

 

[Montreal Sex City]

Anyone with at least two braincells understands what benefit providers get from reviews. (1)

That being said, the whole process of reviewing, by definition, belongs strictly and addresses itself strictly to clients. It's like a consumer review, end of story. (2)

As stated earlier, clients are under no obligation to make publicity for providers.His business. He's under no obligation to provide justification. Clients don't owe more to SP's than the agreed donation, respect and courtesy, neither do they have to be associated to both boards or any board at all. (3)

ZM,

(1) You use to impress me much more ...

(2) And who said differently ?

(3) What this declaration as to do with the main subject of this thread

We are talking about blackmailling, you know about the malicious
manipulations of this business, or have you forgot about these already ?

Hold on, maybe you are trying to tell that these exist only in our ...
2 cells brains

Maybe you can tell this to the lady part of my team that was approch by
someone from the board and proposed her her glowing first review in the
business if she was moving to another agency

Where that one was leading from ???

However, we both laught at this one !

P.S. Oups ! Just for the form, I forgot to mention he would
have still get his rights the write the review ...

 

[Montreal Sex City]

Yeah right. We were all born yesterday. In this dog-eat-dog business, it is a common practice for agencies to try to recruit ladies from competitors. How do they do that? Here is the secret revealed: enticement by one good review. How do you call that practice again? blackmailing?
Well, this industry needs a regulator to stop upstanding escort owners to steal providers from each other.
Have any of your lady ever moved to another agency without the benefit of a good review? Don't bother to answer, it's a rethoric question.

I like this one ! Actually is my favorite one !

''Don't bother to answer''

Yeah, cause actually my answer will bother you

Don't worry, I don't and smart people understand.

 

[z/m(Ret)]

ZM,

(1) You use to impress me much more ...

Nothing impressive about stating the plain truth, I know.

(2) And who said differently ?

To some extent you did, by asking reviewers to justify why they would remove a review.

(3) What this declaration as to do with the main subject of this thread
We are talking about blackmailling, you know about the malicious
manipulations of this business, or have you forgot about these already ?

It has to do with a misconception that is being propagated on this thread. Moreover, I'm not convinced that there's much to remember in this specific instance.

Finally, I already expressed my views on the issue of blackmail; not yet convinced that there's something to write home about. Also pointed out that the premises, as expressed by the thread starter, who's asking readers to accept his summary of the evidence, left his stories open to interpretation: I submitted a likely scenario.

Hold on, maybe you are trying to tell that these exist only in our ...
2 cells brains

It's an expression, Jessy, don't get all bent out of shape.

Maybe you can tell this to the lady part of my team that was approch by
someone from the board and proposed her her glowing first review in the
business if she was moving to another agency

Pielfiering, thieving, or whatever you prefer calling it, provided that there are formal agreements between competitors that regulate and sanction such practice, otherwise it's just business as usual. Nothing new nor specific to the escorting business.

Where that one was leading from ???

However, we both laught at this one !

Laugh it up sweet pie.

P.S. Oups ! Just for the form, I forgot to mention he would
have still get his rights the write the review ...

Not sure I got this one.

 

[z/m(Ret)]

Agreed!....and if a client writes a review and then later deletes it, its his right and his business. Why would he have to justify it?

I dont review everyone I see either...and to say that I need to be a credible reviewer is absurd!!

I've written reviews on the boards that providers have copied and used on their personal websites. They didnt ask permission or even notify me that the reviews would be used. I guess its public domain once its posted.

On my last trip I stopped calling one agency because I did not like the way the sessions were going with their SP's. It was obvious that they were being told that I was Banger, a merb reviewer. Though the GFE services were there, I could tell that the session was a programmed one for their review....ah....no thanks!

I called another agency and I had much more natural, better encounters with their SP's...cause they didnt associate me as Banger on merb and were more focused on having a good time with me than the review they wanted to get....

Members who use their board handles to get better mileage are fooling themselves if they think its helping them have a better session...Calling an SP is a "sure" thing....all you have to be is polite , clean, and respectful and most Montreal providers will make the session enjoyable. How much eaisier do you want it???

I write reviews to re-live the moment, entertain with a good story, a ego boost, and as a thank you to the providers to promote other respectable clients to see them. Also I've gotten many tips from other reviews on merb and its a way of giving back to the community and encouraging other members to share their experiences.


Banger

Banger,

You're raising a valid point.

My own experience confirms that there's little to nothing to gain and sometimes a bit to lose from disclosing the client's handle. Nonetheless there is a difference, one perhaps that can be felt as a pressure to perform, i.e. to execute such and such sex act in succession (a bit like figure skating ).

I rarely disclose my handle but sometimes I do for practical reasons and other times the SP is able to make the connection by herself. In any case, the impression I described above grew stronger as my handle gained visibility on the board.

 

[eastender]

Expressions

Nothing impressive about stating the plain truth, I know.

Pielfiering, thieving, or whatever you prefer calling it, provided that there are formal agreements between competitors that regulate and sanction such practice, otherwise it's just business as usual. Nothing new nor specific to the escorting business.

Drifting towards "The truth hurts".

Believe the common terms are "corporate head-hunters" or "corporate raiders". Regardless I do not sense that free agency or an entry draft will be part of the equation.

 

[z/m(Ret)]

Drifting towards "The truth hurts".

I was getting there, thanks for sparing me the job.

Believe the common terms are "corporate head-hunters" or "corporate raiders". Regardless I do not sense that free agency or an entry draft will be part of the equation.

That's right...............

 

[korbel]

Anyone with at least two braincells understands what benefit providers get from reviews.

That being said, the whole process of reviewing, by definition, belongs strictly and addresses itself strictly to clients. It's like a consumer review, end of story.

As stated earlier, clients are under no obligation to make publicity for providers.His business. He's under no obligation to provide justification. Clients don't owe more to SP's than the agreed donation, respect and courtesy, neither do they have to be associated to both boards or any board at all.

Agreed!....and if a client writes a review and then later deletes it, its his right and his business. Why would he have to justify it?

I dont review everyone I see either...and to say that I need to be a credible reviewer is absurd!!

I've written reviews on the boards that providers have copied and used on their personal websites. They didnt ask permission or even notify me that the reviews would be used. I guess its public domain once its posted.

On my last trip I stopped calling one agency because I did not like the way the sessions were going with their SP's. It was obvious that they were being told that I was Banger, a merb reviewer. Though the GFE services were there, I could tell that the session was a programmed one for their review....ah....no thanks!

I called another agency and I had much more natural, better encounters with their SP's...cause they didnt associate me as Banger on merb and were more focused on having a good time with me than the review they wanted to get....

Members who use their board handles to get better mileage are fooling themselves if they think its helping them have a better session...Calling an SP is a "sure" thing....all you have to be is polite , clean, and respectful and most Montreal providers will make the session enjoyable. How much eaisier do you want it???

I write reviews to re-live the moment, entertain with a good story, a ego boost, and as a thank you to the providers to promote other respectable clients to see them. Also I've gotten many tips from other reviews on merb and its a way of giving back to the community and encouraging other members to share their experiences.


Banger

Hello all,

I am not jumping in here much because ZM and Banger seem to be saying just about all I can think of myself. With all due respects to Jessy XXX, you know I love you sweetie, they are generally right on as far as they go. I don't think reviewing belongs strictly to the client. I understand the angle ZM is trying to focus on, but because of the effects of the review the truth is broader than that. I think there is also an obligation to be as fair and considerate of the SP as possible without losing accuracy and avoiding both favoritism or prejudice. And Banger: his last paragraph couldn't say it better.

As for stealing SPs, yeah, ethically it smells to high heaven. So what do you think the "profit-motive" does, especially in the hobby which doesn't have the same legal support as other businesses. Wrong or not, stealing ladies is the color of this business. All any owner can do is make working for them preferable.

Good luck,

Korbel

 

[Dee]

Nothing impressive about stating The Plain Truth, I know.

Ah ha, ZM's identity revealed,,, Garner Ted Armstrong (who fell from grace) the son of Hebert W. Armstrong.

Readers (and there were many - The Plain Truth, peaked at a monthly distribution of more than eight million) will recall the overuse of the exclamation mark in the articles.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Plain_Truth
http://www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/Cults/armstrong.htm