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Obama's only chance is class warfare. He has to mobilize enough of his traditional base to compensate for a large swing in independents and the jewish vote. It's been my experience that Jews are not tradionally a one issue electorate. However, I get the sense that Obama is pushing the Mideast Issue to justify his peace prize and elevate himself on the world stage. I think it's a bad road he's going down.

Obama won't carry much if all he has is his base, and probably a lot of his base will stay home. Not many Jews will not vote for him next time. As far as an Israeli-Palenstinian peace deal any time soon - it won't happen. Even the "more" moderate Abbas will not recognize Israel as a Jewish state, so a peace deal is not possible.

Merlot speaks in Liberal talking points. Good disection.

As far as Herman Cain is concerned, the man has a lot on the ball. He would make a good Cheif Executive for the US . He has something Barack Obama has never had and will never have - common sense. I'd vote for Herman over Barack any day, and the majority of Americans will, if Cain wins the Republican nomination.

M, I realize the standard liberal BS is to confuse the public with baseless allegations strung together and represented as fact. So separating all the garbage with "............................." to clarify it for everyone seems to be appropriate.

I'll also mention that Cain won 37% of the Republican Party Straw Poll in Florida. You know that African American Businessman from Atlanta. That's not to say he's a viable canidate at this point, as his fund raising has not been proven.

Now M, look at all the facts I compacted into three sentences:

1) Cain won 37% of Republican Straw Poll in Florida. THAT'S A STATISTIC

2) He's African American Businessman from Atlanta I'VE MENTIONED HIS ETHNIC BACKGROUND, HIS EMPLOYMENT, HIS HOME ALL IN ONE SENTENCE!! M, THOSE ARE WHAT ARE CALLED "FACTS"

3) His fund raising (by his own admission last Sunday on WDBO radio in Orlando) is not yet proven. WOW, ANOTHER FACT!!

Now M, you give it a try. Try to string together at least one fact in each sentence.

Then again, you don't seem to have any credible arguments. (LAST SENTENCE WAS AN OPINION, SEE THE DIFERRENCE M).

OK, Kindergarden's over now M.

P.S. As usual here's the supporting press story from a Liberal Miami source:http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/09/27/2428157/cains-message-resonates-with-rank.html

Note: Cain is an interesting contrast when compared with Mr. Obama. (this is an opinion M)
 

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As far as Herman Cain is concerned, the man has a lot on the ball. He would make a good Cheif Executive for the US . He has something Barack Obama has never had and will never have - common sense. I'd vote for Herman over Barack any day, and the majority of Americans will, if Cain wins the Republican nomination.

So, Hillary is being mentioned BC as a replacement for Obama. Who was it that saw that coming....................................................................ME!!!! Mentioned it here a couple of weeks ago. The scuttle-but about me throwing my hat in the ring is pure BS.!!
 

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Biden: Voters should blame Obama, not Bush, for economy

By Steven Nelson - The Daily Caller 2:40 PM 09/29/2011

Vice President Joe Biden told Florida radio station WLRN on Thursday that voters should hold President Barack Obama, not former President George W. Bush, accountable for the poor state of America’s economy.

Conservative PAC American Crossroads circulated the startling statement Thursday afternoon, expecting it will take Democratic campaign strategists by surprise.

“Right now, understandably — totally legitimate — this is a referendum on Obama and Biden and the nature of the state of the economy,” Biden said.

Polls indicating that more Americans blame Bush for the economy than Obama are not relevant, Biden said.

“Even though fifty-some percent of the American people think that the economy tanked because of the last administration, that’s not relevant,” Biden stressed. “What’s relevant is we’re in charge. And right now we are the ones in charge and it’s gotten better, but it hasn’t gotten good enough.”

“I don’t blame them for being mad. We’re in charge,” Biden explained.

Biden did clarify that while the 2012 election is currently shaping up as a referendum on the Obama administration, “it’s soon going to be a choice.” He then launched into an on-air pitch for the president’s American Jobs Act.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2011/09/29/b...ame-obama-not-bush-for-economy/#ixzz1ZNSlH57W
 

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Sen. Durbin: Dems Don't Have The Votes To Pass Obama Jobs Bill

"We're not going to have 100% of Democratic Senators, that's why it needs to be bipartisan. And I hope we can find some Republicans who will join us to make it happen," Sen. Dick Durbin (D-IL) told WLS-AM on Thursday.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...t_have_the_votes_to_pass_obama_jobs_bill.html

Also:

Durbin says Democrats don’t currently have the votes for Obama jobs bill

By Daniel Strauss - 09/29/11 07:33 PM ET

Senate Majority Whip Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) said, at the moment, Democrats in Congress don’t have the votes to pass President Obama’s jobs bill, but Durbin added that that situation would change.

“Not at the moment, I don’t think we do, but, uh, we can work on it,” Durbin said, according to Chicago radio station WLS.

President Obama has been calling for Congress to pass his American Jobs Act since legislators returned from their August recess. The jobs plan is made up of a combination of tax increases on the wealthy, new infrastructure spending, an extension of the employee payroll-tax cut and additional funding for unemployment insurance benefits.

Republicans have voiced opposition to the plan, albeit less than with other pieces of legislation Democrats have proposed recently.

Durbin added that the president’s bill would need bipartisan support because there are senators both on the left and the right opposed to aspects of it.

“The oil-producing-state senators don’t like eliminating or reducing the subsidy for oil companies,” Durbin said. “There are some senators who are up for election who say ‘I’m never gonna vote for a tax increase while I’m up for election, even on the wealthiest people.’ So, we’re not gonna have 100 percent of Democratic senators. That’s why it needs to be bipartisan and I hope we can find some Republicans who will join us to make it happen.”

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http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...-currently-have-the-votes-for-obama-jobs-bill


Obama's great job bill that's suppose to save the economy. The Democrats don't have 50 of their 56 Senators willing to pass the bill. If it was so great, don't you think they could get 50 Senators? And no, don't say the Republicans would fillibuster it, because they would not. They would let it pass and let the Republicans in the House vote it down, because it is a lousy bill.

Obama is a loser.
 

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Current Poll on Obama's Major Accomplishments after 1000 days in office: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011...bama-whats-presidents-biggest-accomplishment/

Of 53,652 Respondents the votes are:

35.65% Death of Bin Laden
38.52% First African-American President
16.86% other???????
4.2% ObamaCare
1% EVERYTHING ELSE

Based upon this it would seem he'll be remembered as the First Black American President who ordered Bin Ladin killed, won the Nobel Peace Prize (for what we're not sure) and passed ObamaCare. He's definately "an historic president". But distilling it down, 74.17% of the people consider his best accomplishments little to do with running the U.S. The remaining portion seems to correspond to the roughly 25-35% support from his core constituancy that actually believe he's done something.

So we've had a catholic president, a black president, a fat president, a couple of generals, many crooks, a couple of teachers, a conservationalist, a warmonger or two, slave owners and not slave owners, an actor, an engineer, a peanut farmer, oilmen, a handicaped president, etc.....etc...etc... Time for a woman president, a jewish president, a muslim president, a morman president, a non-girlyman (why not Schwarzenegger, after all we didn't split hairs on Obama's citizenship.........LOL).
 

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EDITORIAL COMMENT: NBC News almost had me believing that Obama enjoyed even minimal confidence with the left. This poll exhibits that even his left wing support is abandoning him. I did come across a unemployed carpenter a few weeks ago that still had a favorable impression of Obama. He admitted he wasn't paying much attention to current affairs.............:rolleyes: Admittedly, I know very little of carpenters except the one from Nazereth. Opps, Obama is a secular kind of guy.......Never mind.....:lol:


Fox News Poll: 56 Percent Would Give Obama Vote of 'No Confidence'

By Dana Blanton

Published November 17, 2011

| FoxNews.com

If Americans could cast a “confidence” vote in the style of European parliaments, President Barack Obama would not fare well. A 56-percent majority would give his administration a vote of “no confidence.”

In addition, there’s more bad news for the White House in a Fox News poll released Thursday. By a wide 68-29 percent margin, voters say they do not see “any signs the nation’s economy has started to turn the corner.”

The 56-percent “no confidence” number includes 30 percent of Democrats and 62 percent of independents. By comparison, 40 percent of voters overall would cast a “vote of confidence” for the administration.

That’s similar to President Obama’s overall job performance rating. Currently 42 percent of voters approve and 48 percent disapprove. This is the fifth month in a row where more voters have disapproved than approved of Obama. Last month 43 percent approved and 50 percent disapproved.

By a 13 percentage-point margin more voters think Obama’s economic policies have hurt (48 percent) rather than helped (35 percent) the economy.

What about down the road? Forty-four percent think Obama’s economic policies will help in the long run, while 48 percent think they will hurt. Clearly the administration has failed to convince voters that their policies will ultimately pay off, as the current views are little changed from last year, when 45 percent said the policies would eventually help and 44 percent said they would hurt (October 2010).

Still, voters are optimistic about America’s future -- long term. Looking ahead to the next 10 years, a 59-percent majority is optimistic. While that number is unchanged from last year, there has been a decline in intensity.

Consider this: 20 percent of voters are “very” optimistic about the country’s future. That’s down from 29 percent last year, and a drop of almost half of the 37 percent who were “very” optimistic in the months after Obama took office (April 2009).

Meanwhile, 36 percent of voters are pessimistic about America’s future, the highest ever recorded in a Fox News poll since the question was first asked in 1999.

Democrats (67 percent) are more optimistic about the country’s long-term future, than Republicans (56 percent) and independents (49 percent).

Most Disapprove of Congress

Fully 80 percent of voters disapprove of the job Congress is doing. Twelve percent approve. Both of these current ratings remain near record levels. Approval of Congress hit a low of 10 percent in August 2011, and disapproval hit a high of 83 percent in September 2011.

The Fox News poll is based on landline and cell phone interviews with 914 randomly-chosen registered voters nationwide and was conducted under the joint direction of Anderson Robbins Research (D) and Shaw & Company Research (R) from November 13 to November 15. For the total sample, it has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 3 percentage points.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...-give-obama-vote-no-confidence/#ixzz1e0wkj9hf
 

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56%?? 56%?? That's the best Fox, the propaganda arm of the Republican party, could do??

Meanwhile, Pew Research, a genuine polling operation, tells quite a different story, showing Obama at 52% favorable, 16% higher than his nearest Republican challenger.
http://www.people-press.org/2011/11/17/obama-job-approval-edges-up-gop-contest-remains-fluid/

And the Wikipedia Composite (14 DIFFERENT POLLS!!!!!) shows him at 38% as of 10/17/11

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_approval_rating

A further examination shows Obama edging down their with Ford and Carter. He's still a bit ahead of Bush#2. Please note this "52% Approval" you quote is against Republican Challengers. His numbers are actually 46% approve with 46% disapprove according to Pew (the liberal pollsters). So Obama has managed to totally polarize the American Public with race & class political warfare. Yup, change we all unfortunately believed in.........:rolleyes:

Rumps, you continue get it wrong.........you can only push the numbers so hard before they collapse under their own BS
 

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Let the "dcrat" supporters think what they want double D, the FACTS speak otherwise. That must of been a poll conducted by the heavily one sided "non truth" CNN where ONE poster saw a approval rating for obama that high... i have not seen one that high for obammie since he declared he was ecstatic that Theo Epstein was now the man in Chi-Town, Baby!

The "One Term Wonder" will be defeated in less than a year now, lets just hope that year goes quickly, for the sake of Americans.
Which mental institution is Pew polling to get this 52% favorable rating?
 

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lgna66,

You need to understand the mentality here. It's really quite a facinating projection of the "want it, see it, visualize it, make it reality" version of a great athlete. The left wants it to be so........so they keep saying it's so..........they visualize it to be the truth, thus attempting to project their "reality" onto others. By this unwavering belief and shear force of will, they attempt to make intense imagination actual reality. Many a sports star underdog has won in just the same manner. The Americans did it vs. Russia in hockey. Past American Gymnastics teams have employed the same techniques. You have to hand it to NBC & Obama/Pelosi. And bless Rumps forceful imagination, he tows the party line no matter what. Rumps, where's that old girlcotte hat??

The most facinating thing has been Obama's ducking out of the country on a total BS mission while leaving the liberal press to hunt down Cain. Almost criminal and IMHO bordering on outright treason. When the press seeks to become the government, they give up the very protections they purport to defend.

Granted, my health is not good. But I live to pull the ballot lever in favor of whomever runs against Obama.......
 

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:rolleyes:

And the Wikipedia Composite (14 DIFFERENT POLLS!!!!!) shows him at 38% as of 10/17/11
The most recent poll cited in your link is from mid-September. Three of them are no more recent than May. The poll I cited is current.

The October 17 number you cite is Gallup only.

All of the recent polls show Obama beating his Republican opponents, the only close race the one with Romney, by two points. Of course, he doesn't have a difficult fight as all of the Republicans running, with the exceptions of Huntsman and Romney, are stark raving mad.
 

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The "One Term Wonder" will be defeated in less than a year now, lets just hope that year goes quickly, for the sake of Americans.

Let me make one bold prediction here: Barak Hussein Obama will be re-elected to a 2nd term in 2012. There is no way he (or anyone) can lose to the current field of Republican hopefuls. The GOP's best candidate is Mitt Romney. However, his own party hates him. The majority of Republicans would rather stay home than go out & vote for him.

What the Republicans have to do in order to guarantee them a win in the 2016 elections is to figure out a way to kick out the radicals out of their party. Indeed, the Tea Party has made the typical Ronald Reagan Republicans totally irrelevant within the party as it stands today.

I'll be even bolder: if the Republicans win the 2012 Presidential elections, i will disappear from Merb forever. This will be a promise that i will honor to the day i die.

p.s. The Maple Leafs have a better chance to win the Stanley Cup in 2012 than the GOP has of winning the elections in 2012. :D
 

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Obama will be re-elected if he kills Osama AGAIN !

Judas, Charlie Brown would likely get the nod over the current crop of GOP hopefuls. Romney & Hunstsman are okay, but as i stated above, their own party hates them. Even though Romney has been the only GOP hopeful with good numbers during these past few months, he always seems to trail one of the fringe candidates. First it was Donald Trump, then Michelle Bachmann, Rick Perry, Herman Cain......and now, it's 90's relic Newt Gingrich who's inching close to him. Previously, they tried to coax NJ Governor Chris Christie into running.

It's rather obvious that the GOP doesn't want to have Mitt Romney as its nominee. Barak Huseein Obama hasn't looked any better in months than he has now. He has only the GOP to thank for that.
 

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I'll be even bolder: if the Republicans win the 2012 Presidential elections, i will disappear from Merb forever. This will be a promise that i will honor to the day i die.

I always love a one sided promise, so I quoted it to save. It will only go away if rumps deletes the thread.
 

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Let me make one bold prediction here: Barak Hussein Obama will be re-elected to a 2nd term in 2012. There is no way he (or anyone) can lose to the current field of Republican hopefuls. The GOP's best candidate is Mitt Romney. However, his own party hates him. The majority of Republicans would rather stay home than go out & vote for him.

What the Republicans have to do in order to guarantee them a win in the 2016 elections is to figure out a way to kick out the radicals out of their party. Indeed, the Tea Party has made the typical Ronald Reagan Republicans totally irrelevant within the party as it stands today.

I'll be even bolder: if the Republicans win the 2012 Presidential elections, i will disappear from Merb forever. This will be a promise that i will honor to the day i die.

p.s. The Maple Leafs have a better chance to win the Stanley Cup in 2012 than the GOP has of winning the elections in 2012. :D

Too bad, Doc. Nice seeing you post in the Sports threads.

Barack Obama is the dumbest and least effective President the United States (all "57 States") ever had. If the current leader Newt Gringrich was nominated, Gringrich would humilate Obama in the debates. You may not like Gringrich, but at least he has ideas and is articulate, the opposite of Obama.

Besides, Obama spends 50 percent of his time either on vacation or doing foreign trips. He goes around stumping to campaign for a Jobs bill that he hadn't even written yet and has no support among his party members in the Democratic controlled Senate. He is a loser and he will lose next November.
 

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The most recent poll cited in your link is from mid-September. Three of them are no more recent than May. The poll I cited is current.

The October 17 number you cite is Gallup only.

All of the recent polls show Obama beating his Republican opponents, the only close race the one with Romney, by two points. Of course, he doesn't have a difficult fight as all of the Republicans running, with the exceptions of Huntsman and Romney, are stark raving mad.

Really? Why are they stark raving mad? Because they have Conservative view points?

Obama will lose. He is the most ineffective President to ever be in Office. The unemployment rate is still 9 percent. People's confidence has not improved. I can't see how Obama can win.
 

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Should we start thinking of new names for your next merb handle now? Dont worry bro, you have about a year to do so....;)
Let me make one bold prediction here: Barak Hussein Obama will be re-elected to a 2nd term in 2012. There is no way he (or anyone) can lose to the current field of Republican hopefuls. T

I'll be even bolder: if the Republicans win the 2012 Presidential elections, i will disappear from Merb forever. This will be a promise that i will honor to the day i die.

p.s. The Maple Leafs have a better chance to win the Stanley Cup in 2012 than the GOP has of winning the elections in 2012. :D
 

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Should we start thinking of new names for your next merb handle now? Dont worry bro, you have about a year to do so....;)

Here's some interesting results at Gallup: http://www.gallup.com/poll/election.aspx

Unfortunately, I have to agree with Doc on this one. I didn't say Bama Baby was going to lose. I did say he's not as popular as the media and our leftest friends think he is. Obama will probably be re-elected based upon the following facts:

1) OK, let's address the "elephant in the room". He's black. The black population in the US votes almost (notice this modifier) totally along racial guidelines. Regardless of what Obama does, short of giving the keys to the Chinese, he's going to get at the lowest 85% of the black vote. His approval ratings among blacks usually hangs around 90%. So when you have some 30%+ of the poplation voting for bama right out of the box it's an uphill climb for anyone not black. Cain scared Obama because the conservatives came up with a black man to actually challenge him. So Obama quietly went out of the country while the liberal press of Chicago & NYC chopped Cain up with total BS.
2) Obama has the Chicago Mafia Political Machine behind him. This will insure the critical State of Ohio, while the large Muslim popluation in Michigan will insure that state.
3) Obama's extreme left wing agenda will insure his support from that sector. Yes he gave up the Jewish vote with his stabbing in the back of the US's only true friend in the Middle East (Israel), but the US Muslim vote is now strong enough to push him over the edge in New York State.

Bottom line is, barring a miracle, Obama will be re-elected by the traditional minorities and a careful selection and newer targeting of specific special interest groups. The US popluation will be forced to endure another 4 years of Obama. In summary, Obama has managed to blend just the right amount of racial & class warfare together to remain in power. Quite similar to many Arab Countries & Southeast Asian Communist regimes. So while I memorialized Doc's promise, I doubt he'll be forced to honor it. He's made a good bet. But the bet was free, without downside to me.....so what the hell.

In fact, if Obama loses I'll attend a GT and buy everyone a beer. Don't bother booking your hotel room at the HDLM on that one, because the chances of getting your beer aren't good. Again, another zero chance bet on my part.....LOL
 

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2) Obama has the Chicago Mafia Political Machine behind him. This will insure the critical State of Ohio, while the large Muslim popluation in Michigan will insure that state.
Um, Chicago is in Illinois. Just sayin'
3) Obama's extreme left wing agenda will insure his support from that sector.
Left wing agenda??? Oh, jeez. Actually, the left wing, what little there is of it in the US of A, is quite unhappy with Mr. Obama. This comment of yours is so silly as to hardly warrant reply. Those on the left will most likely vote for Obama, if only in self defense considering the wing-nuts that the Republicans are offering up. Many, however, will just stay home in disgust.
 
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