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Special K,

It has been an exciting day on the news front. With all the moves that have been made, the fans are really looking forward to seeing this team play. I don't think you can compare this to last year when the Yankees were hard hit by injuries to all of the big bats and then even the replacements got hurt. The 2013 team had too many injuries to overcome. The 2014 Yankees will be much better.
 

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Bawhahaha,!!! good one Beav, word on the street is that rumpleforskin is in absolute stitches over the signing of the corpse of Grady Sizemore.:lol:


Quote from today "I don't understand it. It's nasty." former teammate and Yankee pitcher Darrell Rasner on Tanaka's splitter, he also called it "an absolute strikeout pitch."

Joe.t's prediction for the East.

1. Yankees(lots of new blood with the Tanaka signing putting them over the top).
2. Toronto(they will sign one of the big remaining free agent pitchers, if Brandon Morrow can stay healthy watch out).
3. Baltimore(this team showed that it had some talent last year).
4. Cellar(you guessed it, the team that was lucky because all of the pieces fell into place last year, for this to happen two years in a row is highly unlikely, especially when you have done nothing, unless you consider the signing of the Corpse of Grady Sizemore an improvement.:lol:
 

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Meanwhile the Red Sox have done absolutely diddly squat to improve on their lucky season and have actually regressed(Ellsbury).:help:

Joe please address them by their correct name, THE 2013 World Series Champion Boston Red Sox!! Lol.

On a side note are you back on the Yanks bandwagon or you sticking with your BJ's?
 

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Tanaka is a HUGE addition to the Yankees and puts them by most experts as contenders for the AL East title and some have them as contenders for the World Series. Now for that to happen IMHO they need Jeter and Tex to have at least decent seasons (which i expect, or even better) and thats w/o anymore additions to the roster. But, knowing Brain, er Brian Cashman, he is not done yet.

The key now is Pineda. If he can be back to what we saw early on in Seattle, then look out for this 2014 Yankees team. CC has never been in better shape than he is now and i read he is determined to show everyone he can still be a #1 starter. CC, Kuroda, Tanaka, Nova, and Pineda/Phelps looks like a championship caliber starting rotation to me. Dont forget Banuelo's is now 100% healthy as well and should if all goes right, be in the Bronx by August.

One guy i was hoping the Empire would have signed was Balfour for the bullpen but thems the breaks, cant have everything. I am sure Cashman will sign another infielder as well.

C C from a few days ago :


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Iggy,

In addition to Tanaka, Kuroda, CC and Nova manning the first 4 slots of the rotation, you then have actually a 3 man competition for #5 between Phelps, Pineda, and the inestimable Vidal Nuno, the crafty lefty with outstanding changeup who pitched very well before getting hurt last year:

http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/_/id/32706/vidal-nuno

Behind those 7 lies Manny Banuelos, who is likely to be called up in the second half. Having a lefty of his talent, whether in the bullpen or starting, just gives the team a tremendous jolt of depth.

Regarding Balfour, after the Orioles gave him a physical they did not sign him, so they saw something they did not like (but did not say what). The Rays may have offered him to prevent the Yankees from getting him to be set up man. The Yankees may use Shawn Kelley in that role:

http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/stats/_/id/30258/shawn-kelley

Remember, nobody in baseball is better than Cashman and Girardi at cobbling together a bullpen. Remember what they did in 2009. In that season the Yankees bullpen was the worst in MLB in April. They let the deadwood go, rebuilt that pen and won the World Series.

Bullpens are the part of a team you can spend the least money on and get away with it, so don't worry about it. They will figure it out because they always do.
 
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Tanaka is a HUGE addition to the Yankees and puts them by most experts as contenders for the AL East title and some have them as contenders for the World Series.

By experts you mean Joe.t, Beav, DD41 and yourself? LMAO!!! ;)
 

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Iggy,

Here is an article from the Daily News explaining CC has been weight training and is much more toned and stronger than he was last year. There are some additional pics of CC in this article:

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/b...ram-credits-weight-training-article-1.1585974

It's called pride. He knows he had a down year last year and wants to bounce back strong. The Tanaka signing likely has him doing extra reps.
 

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BOYZ!

4. Cellar(you guessed it, the team that was lucky because all of the pieces fell into place last year, for this to happen two years in a row is highly unlikely, especially when you have done nothing, unless you consider the signing of the Corpse of Grady Sizemore an improvement.:lol:

Thanks for starting 2014 exactly the same way you started 2013 off for the WORLD SERIES CHAMPION BOSTON RED SOX.

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What a great job you did Josey. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Tanaka is a HUGE addition to the Yankees and puts them by most experts as contenders for the AL East title and some have them as contenders for the World Series.

Your hard liquor budget must be a doozy.

Tanaka: Yankees Showed Me The Most Appreciation

Appreciation=Money. Are you really disconnected enough to think it's anything else. I finally figured out what the term "Yankee Pride" was meant for after reading the latest pinstriped fanboy posts. It's a whitewash positive spin to cover up a delusional state of mind where fans think anything the team does puts the World Series ring on their fingers...the same ones the World Series Champion Red Sox are currently wearing after all the same fanboys put the Sox in last place for 2013. BWAHAHA! :D :nod:

It has been hilarious how you fanboys keep on stroking each others desperate hopes until you're almost reading to pass out the 2014 Series rings in January. :crazy:

Here's a far more sober and rational view:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...-masahiro-tanaka-al-east-189-million/4778309/

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Getting back to the playoffs, though, isn't so much about who the Yankees might decide to delete from the roster. It's the players already guaranteed the big bucks who will determine whether Tanaka can push them over the top.

First baseman Mark Teixeira must play and produce after being limited to 15 games last season by wrist problems. But, even when healthy, his OPS has declined annually from .963 in 2007 to .807 as a full-timer in 2012.

COOL WINTER: Yankees spend about a half-billion bucks

Derek Jeter must be an everyday shortstop again – not necessarily an All-Star – after playing just 17 games at age 39 in 2013.

And somebody has to play third base. The post-Rodriguez bar is set low after Yankees third basemen combined for a .293 on-base percentage and .340 slugging in 2013, but those numbers also contributed mightily to finishing 12 games behind the Red Sox and five games out of a playoff spot.

Even with Tanaka, though, the Yankees' pitching must show significant improvement to compete with a Boston staff so deep that veteran Ryan Dempster could get bumped from the rotation – not to mention several talented prospects biding their time.

And that doesn't even take into account the Justin Verlander-Max Scherzer-and-more Detroit staff that now has Joe Nathan as closer – which could provide a bigger roadblock to the World Series than the Red Sox.

Assuming Tanaka's transition to the major leagues is more Yu Darvish than Daisuke Matsuzaka – or even Hideki Irabu, to invoke a nightmare scenario for Yankees fans -- the 25-year-old immediately becomes the best pitcher on the staff.

CC Sabathia's resume and leadership might keep him as the de facto ace, but he'll need to be much better than last season's 14-13 and career-worst 4.78 ERA. Instagram photos of him looking relatively svelte - he says toned - may be a good start.

Hiroki Kuroda was the Yankees' best starter in 2013 with a 3.31 ERA but he'll be 39 on Feb. 10 and was 0-6 with a 6.56 ERA and 78 baserunners in 46 innings over his final eight starts.

Sabathia, Kuroda and now-retired Andy Pettitte were the Yankees' only double-digit winners last season. If Tanaka can add six more wins than Pettitte's 11, maybe he makes the Yankees a playoff team. He'll need help to close the gap on Boston or the AL's other division winners in Detroit and Oakland.

STILL AVAILABLE: The best of the best in post-Tanaka market

There's more pitching help available – the Tanaka signing should jolt the market that still includes Ervin Santana, Matt Garza, Ubaldo Jimenez and Bronson Arroyo – but for the Yankees that reprises the specter of the luxury tax.

Their one wild card is Michael Pineda, dominant as a 22-year-old rookie for Seattle in 2011. He's been limited to 40 minor league innings since the Yankees acquired him before the 2012 season.

Pineda is healthy again and, maybe most important of all, he's not even arbitration eligible yet.

Amazing that he could be as important to the Yankees' chances as Tanaka – at roughly 1/40th the cost.


On a side note are you back on the Yanks bandwagon or you sticking with your BJ's?

I'm sure Joe can find time to love the Yankees and still give plenty of time for the "BJs" too. Have faith in the boy.

Cheers,

Merlot
 

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Yankees odds to win World Series after Tanaka signing improves greatly

And something tells me Cashman is not done tinkering yet.


http://linemakers.sportingnews.com/...asahiro-tanaka-signing-rays-blue-jays-red-sox


ODDS TO WIN 2014 WORLD SERIES

DODGERS 11-2
TIGERS 7-1
NATIONALS 9-1
CARDINALS 9-1

YANKEES 12-1

RED SOX 12-1
RAYS 15-1
ANGELS 15-1
REDS 15-1
BRAVES 15-1
RANGERS 17-1
A'S 17-1
MARINERS 30-1
ORIOLES 35-1
BLUE JAYS 50-1
CUBS 60-1
METS 80-1
 

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The Tigers have the best starting rotation in baseball and the best hitter in baseball. At the beginning of last year I thought they were the team to beat and I think they are certainly the team to beat in the AL. The Dodgers would have been overwhelming favorites to win the World Series if they had signed Tanaka, so the rest of baseball should send thank you notes to the Yankees for preventing that from happening. I am guessing the Dodgers were one of the bids that was close to the Yankees, but no cigar.
 
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You have said some incredibly smart things over the years Beav, but what i quoted below is one of the smartest ever! The Yanks did many teams a favor indeed, as well as themselves. :thumb:
The Dodgers would have been overwhelming favorites to win the World Series if they had signed Tanaka, so the rest of baseball should send thank you notes to the Yankees for preventing that from happening.
 

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The Tigers have the best starting rotation in baseball and the best hitter in baseball. At the beginning of last year I thought they were the team to beat and I think they are certainly the team to beat in the AL. The Dodgers would have been overwhelming favorites to win the World Series if they had signed Tanaka, so the rest of baseball should send thank you notes to the Yankees for preventing that from happening. I am guessing the Dodgers were one of the bids that was close to the Yankees, but no cigar.

I beg to differ, this is the best starting rotation in baseball, try this on for size.

1. CC Sabathia.
2. Hiroki Kurodi.
3. Masahiro Tanaka(My CY pick, he will surprise everybody, you just watch).
4. Ivan Nova.
5. Micheal Pineda.
 

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The Dodgers would have been overwhelming favorites to win the World Series if they had signed Tanaka, so the rest of baseball should send thank you notes to the Yankees for preventing that from happening.

You have said some incredibly smart things over the years Beav, but what i quoted below is one of the smartest ever! The Yanks did many teams a favor indeed, as well as themselves. :thumb:

I really have to disagree. When this guy hasn't thrown a single MLB pitch and everyone already has him as the savior to baseball. Let's see if he turns out to be a Daisuke or a Yu before indocrinating him into the HOF!
 

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Ben Badler from Baseball America has referred to Tanaka’s splitter as being one of the best splitters in all of baseball, on another note, god I wish Fred had a change of heart and unban rumples, his delusional postings in the sports threads where EPIC!!!!, my health took a tremendous hit when he was banned.

"Ben Badler has referred to Tanaka’s splitter as being one of the best splitters in all of baseball, everywhere, and there are indications that even by just throwing a splitter pretty frequently, Tanaka could have an advantage in the majors. Since 2002, those 18 starters who have thrown at least 10% splitters have averaged a 100 ERA- and a 99 FIP-. Everybody else has averaged a 106 ERA- and a 104 FIP-. The splitter pitchers have generated more strikeouts and issued slightly fewer walks."

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/masahiro-tanaka-the-markets-best-starter/
 

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The Tigers got worse over the winter. The Fister deal was the worst deal in the history of the Tigers. We got absolutely nothing for a top flight starter. he was a #4 starter only because of the strength of the Tigers starting rotation. Fister was only getting 4MM$/year and was due for a raise to 7MM$ and maybe 10MM$ the year after - which is a deal. For the trade we got a utility infielder, the second coming of Phil Coke, and the Nationals #7 prospect. The Prospect Robbie Ray was not Dave Dabrowski's 1st choice so how good can he be?

We got rid of Feilder and did not resign Peralta. The Prince deal was a smart strategic move. He wasn't doing anything in the playoffs. Still, we have done nothing to replace those power bats. Nada!

We are starting a prospect at 3rd in Castalanos. He is the teams #1 prospect but he is just that - a prospect. The infield defense will be better but Nick Castalonas at 3B is not considered a good defensive 3rd basemen. The loss of Prince at 1st and Iglaseus at SS will make the infield better.

With Kinsler, Davis, Iggie, Austin Jackson, Torrie Hunter on the bath paths, the only slow pokes are Miggie and Vmart....and Miggie was injured and Vmart was one year back from ACL surgery. We are no longer a beer league softball team.

However, the Fister deal looms large. Smiley was promoted to 5th starter but we did not add a competent middle reliever. Joe Nathen will help as closer. The problem is Verlander is having surgery. It would have been good to keep Fister another year. A bargain Id say.

The Tigers are not as good on paper as they were last year. But, as Boston proved last year, you don't win games on paper.
 
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