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Looks like some very well respected baseball analysts think highly of the team that the Yankees will field this year.

According to Richard Justice of MLB.Com "The Yankees could be better at seven of nine everyday positions, and that includes third base. If they land Japanese right-hander Masahiro Tanaka to the rotation, they will have positioned themselves to return to the postseason."

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article/mlb...md=20140113&content_id=66596350&vkey=news_mlb
 

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Joe,

When the Yanks have King George's offspring running the club, there was/is little doubt they were not gonna field a MUCH better team in 2014. Injuries crushed them last year and they still had a decent showing, unlike how the red sox did the previous season when they bottomed out in last. If the Yanks do land Tanaka, they are a playoff team. If Nova continues to progress and Pineda is back to form, barring major injuries, this team is a sure fire contender for their 28th Championship.
 

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Well, the Yankees need to get Tanaka, and he needs to be as good as advertised. But I think things are headed in the right direction. Also, the Yankees have some very good young Dominicans who are a few years away. Manny Banuelos also looms, possibly in the second half. Don't count him out - he is still only 22, a stud and a lefty.
 

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EB,

I was reading a article somehwere on the net a cpl weeks back and they were saying Manny B was throwing this winter and looking very good. Not all but most pitchers are as good or better after Tommy John Surgery. For a team w/o much pitching a few months ago, it could be the Yankees strength if the stars align, very soon. Key word, "if"
 

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When the Yanks have King George's offspring running the club, there was/is little doubt they were not gonna field a MUCH better team in 2014.

:lol:

Right, the same incompetent Steinbrenner-Cashman duo who put the Yankees on this Kamikaze crash dive to the bottom....and Burke has lead the Leafs to the Stanley Cup. :crazy:

You muy loco blind fanboy,

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"Can the Yankees Now Afford to Go Get Masahiro Tanaka?

It's fine to discuss the weighty stuff about PEDs, namely the future of cheating and punishment in baseball, but right now, this is the big question. It's been two years to the day since ESPN's Jayson Stark published this terrific primer explaining the gigantic financial rewards the Yankees stood to reap if they could duck under the $189 million luxury tax threshold in 2014: $40 million on the conservative side, and potentially more. Horowitz's slightly convoluted ruling held that the Yankees would recoup 162 days worth of A-Rod's 2014 salary, but not a whole season's (183 days) worth. That's $22.13 million saved, with Rodriguez keeping $2.66 million in salary, plus a $3 million bonus. Rodriguez was scheduled to count $27.5 million against the Yankees' payroll this season, based on the average annual value of his 10-year, $275 million contract. That means the Yankees will save $24.34 million against the luxury tax limit in 2014.

So can the Yankees take that extra $24 million and land Japanese pitching phenom Masahiro Tanaka while still staying under the $189 million cap? Unlikely.

According to Yahoo's Jeff Passan, who polled Yankees execs before A-Rod's suspension, New York would have been on the hook for about $178 million in luxury tax commitments if A-Rod's entire luxury tax number got refunded for 2014. Others have floated a figure closer to $183 million. Add the $2.66 million in luxury tax relief that the Yankees did not get as a result of Horowitz's ruling, and, depending on which projection you buy, the likely luxury tax number nets out just under $181 million or just under $186 million. Either way, that would leave no way for the Yankees to get Tanaka at the expected market price and still sneak under $189 million.

Here's the other problem: Aside from pitching, the Yankees have two gigantic infield holes to fill with A-Rod out and Robinson Cano now in Seattle. The team has made some under-the-radar moves to try to address this, adding former Ray Kelly Johnson and longtime Oriole Brian Roberts to the major league roster, and signing once-promising A's and Tigers prospect Scott Sizemore to a minor league deal. The Yankees can hope that Johnson's lefty power plays well with the short porch in the Bronx, that Roberts somehow fights off years of injuries as he approaches his late-30s, and that Sizemore (still only 29) taps into the offensive potential that saw him post a .342 on-base percentage with 11 homers in 110 games three years ago, but none of these players are championship-quality talents. Even with the additions of Brian McCann, Carlos Beltran, and Jacoby Ellsbury this offseason, the Yankees probably can't afford to start subpar players at second and third while also carrying a potentially over-the-hill Derek Jeter and an aging Mark Teixeira; right now, the Yankees have one of the worst projected infields in the league.

Even if the Yankees didn't have to worry about filling other holes, they wouldn't have enough money to stay below the $189 million cap while landing the services of a 25-year-old pitcher who's the most sought-after commodity left on the market by a mile. If they do make moves to beef up the infield — whether by adding Mark Reynolds, Michael Young, or someone else — landing Tanaka while staying below the cap would become impossible.

The alternative is for the Yankees to instead sign Ervin Santana or Ubaldo Jimenez to a multiyear deal. Neither pitcher will come cheap, but the supposed price tags could get depressed enough by the attached draft-pick compensation to allow the Yankees to add one of them plus another infielder while still spending less than $189 million.

Even then, the Yankees would probably need some magnanimous team to take, say, Ichiro and his $6.5 million 2014 luxury tax off the books to allow the Yankees to add quality pitching help other than Tanaka. Not impossible, but still a tough proposition.

It's easy to argue against it. According to the Wall Street Journal’s Brian Costa, the Yanks lost nearly $60 million in ticket revenue alone in 2013. It turns out fans don't have much interest in watching half-decent, very old, kind of dull teams play for 81 games, even if those teams wear pinstripes. Though adding McCann, Beltran, and Ellsbury figures to help the Yankees a lot, the team lost one of the five best players in the league in Cano. There are questions about CC Sabathia and the previously reliable Hiroki Kuroda following a shaky second half last year — and those are the Yankees' top two projected starters right now. And of course, there's the always fierce competition in the AL East. The Red Sox are the defending world champions; the always tough Rays could be better this year with a full season of Wil Myers and some organic improvement for talented young pitchers like Chris Archer, Matt Moore, and Alex Cobb; the Orioles are coming off an 85-win season that tied them with the Yankees; and the Jays probably won't be that bad again in 2014.
 

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The age of 81 is the clue :D

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Clayton Kershaw signed for $215MM/year today. He will make about $30.7 MM/Year. Discounting the post season, Kershaw will make about 32 starts at about $0.95MM/start and $9,500 per pitch. This is fucking insane. He better continue to do well or Lasorda is going to be asking Cashman for tips on how to plant HGH and steroids on Clayton. I remember when the Dodgers signed Kershaw to his first minor league contract they gave him a $1MM signing bonus.
 

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Unfortunately, Kershaw was a bit overused by Mattingly in the playoffs last year, due to Mattingly having lost all confidence in Ricky Nolasco and starting Kershaw on short rest to avoid Nolasco's starts. In fairness to Mattingly, Nolasco totally sucked moose balls to the tune of an ERA over 12 the last 3 or 4 starts in the regular season, and he felt that Kershaw on short best was better than Nolasco on long rest.

In watching Kershaw the past few years, I have been a bit mystified as to the secret of his success. He is obviously a big and strong guy, but to me his pitching mechanics are somewhat unorthodox. However, his results speak for themselves.

But almost $31 million to Kershaw is insane, especially since the team already has a payroll over $240,000,000. The Dodgers have blown well past the Yankees as the biggest spenders in baseball.
 

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I wonder if that herky-jerky motion is partially responsible for his success. Maybe it makes it a little more difficult to pick up the baseball? Kind of like Luis Tiant. I watched him pitch in the minors and I don't remember his motion being quite like that. I do remember that he was a star from day one.

Yes, the Dodgers are the new Evil Empire. I just hope that they don't buy a world series. It seems to rarely work out that way anyway. Most of the time when the players get their fat contract they stop playing. And you say there's another guy that got his money.

Looks like the Tigers are trying to go the Red Sox route. Dumping Fielder's big fat contract was probably a smart move. He hasn't done a thing in the playoffs the past two years. I hate to see what kind of shape Prince is going to be in the last 2 or 3 years of that contract anyway. While I think Prince for Kinsler was a good long term startegic move I am not excited about the signing of Davis in LF. What good is a guy that can't hit for average or power? He has 45 steals but you can't steal 1st base. I also think the Fister trade to the Nationals was the worst trade i can remember in Tiger's history. We traded a top 15 pitcher (by sabormetrics) that we had under contract for two more years for Utility infielder, the second coming of Phil Cook, and the Nats #7 prospect Robbie Ray. I am hearing how good a prospect Ray is but how good can he be when Dave Dombrowski didn't want him in the first place? I wish we could package Coke, Santaigo and our #7 prospect and trade for a MLB Left Fielder with the WAR of Fister. That was a dumb trade and the clock is ticking,
 

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Clayton Kershaw signed for $215MM/year today. He will make about $30.7 MM/Year. Discounting the post season, Kershaw will make about 32 starts at about $0.95MM/start and $9,500 per pitch. This is fucking insane. He better continue to do well or Lasorda is going to be asking Cashman for tips on how to plant HGH and steroids on Clayton. I remember when the Dodgers signed Kershaw to his first minor league contract they gave him a $1MM signing bonus.

A rod is still guaranteed money tho, and Alex being the diva he is will drag this out. Heard he's planning on reporting to spring training too, let's get dysfunctional. The Yankees are just a mess
 

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A rod is still guaranteed money tho, and Alex being the diva he is will drag this out. Heard he's planning on reporting to spring training too, let's get dysfunctional. The Yankees are just a mess

If he reports to spring training the Yankees can relegate him to the minors. Regarding the guaranteed money, it can be bought out by leverage of the threat of voiding his contract. None of us have read A-Rod's contract, but based on what has come out there are likely numerous breaches of it. Guaranteed money is guaranteed so long as you do not break the contract. Otherwise A-Rod could simply sign the deal and leave town. What a guaranteed contract means is that if you show up and play baseball but totally suck, the team cannot release you and thereby escape its monetary obligations on the contract.

A-Rod may have Joe Tacopina working for him but the Yankees have some good lawyers too.
 
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BOYZZZ!

Report: Arizona Diamondbacks offer Masahiro Tanaka 6-year, $120M contract

http://arizonasports.com/42/1693185...cks-offer-Masahiro-Tanaka-6year-120M-contract

The Arizona Diamondbacks have offered Japanese pitcher Masahiro Tanaka a six-year contract worth almost $120 million, according to Japanese media outlet Nikkan Sports.

The report says the Diamondbacks offered Tanaka a six-year contract worth 12 billion yen -- a little more than $115 million, based on current exchange rates. According to the report, all offers have been worth at least $100 million over six years.

The report says that Diamondbacks owner Ken Kendrick and president and CEO Derrick Hall met with Tanaka, who went 24-0 with a 1.27 ERA with the Rakuten Golden Eagles last season.

The New York Yankees, Los Angeles Dodgers, Chicago White Sox and Chicago Cubs have all made formal offers, according to the report.

The 25-year-old Tanaka has until Jan. 24 to pick a team, and whichever team he chooses will pay $20 million to Rakuten, according to Major League Baseball's new posting rules.


RIDICULOUS...

No matter what kind of record anyone has elsewhere I say it's ridiculous to pay anyone who never played in the MLB this kind of money. Including the fee to Rakuten the price is effectively $23.34 million per year. Is a guy who has never seen an MLB batter worth more than Sabathia at his peak when he signed for an average $22.75 million per year. NUTZ!

Any team paying this is out of their minds, including any possibility the Red Sox might be one of them.

:rolleyes:

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