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Being a masseuse: easy money?

gladrx

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I have never spent a second.
Why would you?
Unfortunately my interest in anime and crypto is shared by a disproportionately high % of people in those communities. Spending years on those forums gave me a pretty good insight into the psyche of incels.
 

AlmostMidaged

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So...

It's easy money if you view sex and intimacy as just another service no better or worse than physiotherapy, psychotherapy, or massage therapy.


It's not easy money if you view sex and intimacy as a unique service with explicit short and long term intrinsic value.
 

CLOUD 500

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And easy money is easy money wich is not implying easy job.

Sex workers are doing a not so easy job to earn easy money.

It’s like a surgeon. Not an easy job everyday but easy money when you’re qualified ( which is not easy, at least when compared to other jobs....)
Just as I suspected. You are playing with words. If it is easy money it means the job was easy. The two are directly proportional to each other. Are you a surgeon? Lol A surgeons's job is very very very demandy. You got no idea. I get the vibe that you are playing the victim card on how you got it so hard but SWs got it easy. I dunno. I am just guessing.
 

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Take it from someone who's spent far too much time on incel forums. Not saying that poster is one but their line of thinking is disturbingly similar.
You nailed it. That is the vibe I am getting also. I do not got enough evidence to say that Sexslave is an incel but the line of thinking is similar.
 

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Cloud500 I totally agree. And it is actually very sad that this gentleman can't and won't let it go. That certainly must play a detrimental part in his sessions with MP's and SW's when he should be enjoying himself and be thankful that their "easy job" or "easy money" is making his day better even if only for a little while.
 
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ok lets get real there is no such thing as easy money unless you win 6/49 so yes its good money if your making 2to 3k aweek but i think only the stars make that most girls are hoping to get a few customers a week and end up making less but easy no way i pay and choose who i want to be with they dont and i guess they sometimes have to work up there guts to go through the process and make it look like your the only guy in the world dont forget guys where not all studs so easy no way
 

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Lmfaooo he keeps saying "easy money" like we're not getting fucked up the ass! (amongst other things :p)

Nah for real - it's not easy money. And when a sex workers talks about the (very real) stigma and you say "I don't agree" you're just being rude and ignorant for the sake of being rude and ignorant. You literally cannot "disagree" with a sex worker about sex work. It's OUR JOB. We literally know SO MUCH more about it than you do.

Posting ads, answering hundreds of texts and emails a week, paying ads, paying 2 condos, paying 2 phone plans sometimes, buying all the neccessities (condoms, more condoms, lube, more lube, toy, oils), getting our nails done, buying lingerie, buying 600$ worth of skincare, getting tested every month, putting up with the stigma, possible violence and rape, threats, fake bookings, harassment, our bodies being described in details on review boards, people texting you and expecting you to charge less because that dude wrote your price from 4 years ago in his review when he saw you 4 years ago, or this sexslave dude saying your job is easy when he knows nothing about it......

Yeah. Not easy.
 

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Yes Julia, we the clients, unfortunately we don't realize everything you need to do.

My favorite has already explained everything to me, everything she needs to do for us.

Now I am very understanding when she asks me for changes.

In short, it's not easy money.
 

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The ladies working the downtown MPs have to deal with a lot of drunken and abusive clients. I have actually personally witnessed a lady working at Montreal Nuru Massage get subjected to drunken whistles and catcalls by a group of drunken young guys as she crossed St Catherine in order to bring a food order back to MNM. The drunken guys all knew she worked there. She humored them and acted cool under the circumstances of being publicly degraded. If that's what happens in public, I can imagine the degradation endured by the MPs servicing the same drunken young guys behind closed doors. All the MPs in that area are servicing the late night crowd spilling out of the bars on Crescent Street. I never imagined that it was "easy money". I think in many instances, especially for the women working in those MPs, it's a tough job enduring the obnoxious drunken behavior that they must endure. Some have likely been vomited on, or else had to clean the vomit of their clients off the floor, or off the massage table or bed. That cannot be fun. Personally I think anyone who barfs should be made to clean their own vomit up, but that is not how it works usually.

Different rules in my condo. My father's dog once took a shit on the floor, and I made him clean it up.
 
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AlmostMidaged

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Lmfaooo he keeps saying "easy money" like we're not getting fucked up the ass! (amongst other things :p)

Nah for real - it's not easy money. And when a sex workers talks about the (very real) stigma and you say "I don't agree" you're just being rude and ignorant for the sake of being rude and ignorant. You literally cannot "disagree" with a sex worker about sex work. It's OUR JOB. We literally know SO MUCH more about it than you do.

Posting ads, answering hundreds of texts and emails a week, paying ads, paying 2 condos, paying 2 phone plans sometimes, buying all the neccessities (condoms, more condoms, lube, more lube, toy, oils), getting our nails done, buying lingerie, buying 600$ worth of skincare, getting tested every month, putting up with the stigma, possible violence and rape, threats, fake bookings, harassment, our bodies being described in details on review boards, people texting you and expecting you to charge less because that dude wrote your price from 4 years ago in his review when he saw you 4 years ago, or this sexslave dude saying your job is easy when he knows nothing about it......

Yeah. Not easy.

Even though I agree it's not easy money...the bolded is the type of thinking that leads to corruption and fascism within an industry. To say an "outsider" disagreeing is automatically ignorant shunts away the idea that we as individuals have the power to research, analyze, listen, understand, and draw conclusions from the circumstances/ data of others.

As example, if we substitue police officer for sex worker...

And when a Police officer talks about the (very real) growing stigma and danger and you say "I don't agree" you're just being rude and ignorant for the sake of being rude and ignorant. You literally cannot "disagree" with a police officer about Police work. It's their JOB. They literally know SO MUCH more about it than you do.

The capacity to understand without doing is a fundamental strength of humankind!!! So, while the overwhelming majority of non sex workers are surely in the dark about the dark, it's certainly not a universal truth everyone else on Earth is.
 
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I wonder what it's so important to some of you to call our job ''easy''... Having never done it, there is no possible way you can realize how difficult it actually is. Yes one could argue that being a nurse or a CHLSD worker is hard as well (and it really is), but it's simply not the same. You can't compare a socially-acceptable job (praised even) with a job that brings stigma, criminalization, health risks and actual risk of getting assaulted/raped (although this comes with being a woman as well).

I agree that being a sex-worker requires no education and very little investment (time/money) that could justify the higher pay. But what justifies the higher pay are the reasons I have listed previously. I pay my taxes (like a lot of us do) as I do want to be able to buy property, contribute to society and invest. But I can't openly do it as a Sex Worker for fear of being stigmatized or being refused entry in many countries (notably the US). I can't be open about my job out and about without fear of judgment or worse. I have to find a therapist that has no biases towards sex workers, I have to find a doctor who has no biases towards sex workers, I have to find an accountant that has no biases towards sex workers, I could continue this endlessly but you get the point. Most of the time, I can't be vocal about my professional accomplishments (whether it is about making someone feel amazing about themselves, reaching a certain OF goal, a photoshoot, etc) with everybody. My family and friends who know have to also carry my secret with them. All this justifies the money we earn (although again, it's not nearly as high as you think).

All that without also considering that I have to be intimate with a stranger. Someone who won't always treat me the right way, be clean or be respectful. I have to deal with the fact that my body (almost all the way to my pussy) is reviewed on online boards for the whole world to see.

I am very privileged to have CHOSEN sex work as a career instead of being forced into it. I love my job and thankfully my close-ones are accepting of me. But one can't possibly compare any job to this one. No other job carries this much stigma. If you respect Sex Workers as you say you do, then you would listen when we say it's not easy. The government and society isn't on our side. Police officers are not on our side. You can't even BEGIN to imagine what our job entails.

I suggest you all listen to the podcast called The Escort Deconstructed where we discuss many things in great lengths about our jobs. I think as clients you could benefit a lot from hearing our take on things, given a lot of our written feedback isn't often appreciated or taken into consideration.
God I love this. I love the quote “I love my job.” I was thinking about starting a thread entitled “How many girls really like this?” I was talking to a trusted friend through b/c and he said that he believes most agency girls hate the job and was told this by a couple of agency owners. I don’t want to be with someone who hates their job and I wanted to say”not with me. I serve wine! I kid and joke.” Big deal Hungry... I didn’t even like many aspects of my job. I loved the global travel because I could see escorts, I loved problem solving and technology, etc. But there was so much I hated so this is great to hear. Maybe this is another reason to go with an Indy? Who wants to see girls that hate their jobs? By visiting web sites, reading reviews, posts on forums like this, Twitter etc. You can see who likes their job.

We Johns have no idea how difficult it is to Navigate through life as a sex worker. It seems that there is an extra layer of complexity to do anything. Thanks for reminding us. Kate Holden’s In My Skin is a good book about a drug addicted escort that worked at the top brothel in Australia. She had to hide her addiction or she would be fired. She finally kicked the habit but anyway, she felt as a sex worker she was really more of a mental health/therapist/sex therapist and provided a much needed service to men in the community. I believe this is true.

I guess what is easy is that most SW’s enter this line of work with many inherent gifts and talents. You are good at sex you have natural good looks, you are good at reading people etc. If most of us entered this line of work we would be like the starving artists. Many of us went to school or practices a trade for years to develop skills that were not intuitive. I look at the top SW’s like yourself like pro athletes. Yes, you have to hone your skills/train/diet but if I got that same training, at my peak, I would not be able to compete with that athlete.
 

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To say an "outsider" disagreeing is automatically ignorant shunts away the idea that we as individuals have the power to research, analyze, listen, understand, and draw conclusions from the circumstances/ data of others.

Bro. Saying "not true, I disagree, sex workers dont face stigma/violence" IS ignorant I'm really not sure what point you're trying to defend here. I did not say that outsiders in every field everywhere are clueless, but here particularly, I can say without a single doubt that we, sex workers, know more than sexslave, the incel, about the stigma and violence we face and the inner workings of OUR job. It's literally our job....... And we literally DO face these things. Saying "I disagree" is like saying "you're lying about things you experience". You should have MAYBE checked what I was talking about before making your pointless "point". You really came here and made yourself look like "no, lady its true : you dont face stigma".... NOT a good look.

Also, nobody is saying that police officers don't face violence HAHAHA you're just using nonsense now. " The capacity to understand without doing is a fundamental strength of humankind!!!" well then some people on here are lacking capacity. Surely it doesn't take la tête à papineau to understand the fact that yes, sex work is a business where we face stigma, violence, etc.


Bye felicia.
 

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Lmfaooo he keeps saying "easy money" like we're not getting fucked up the ass! (amongst other things :p)

Nah for real - it's not easy money. And when a sex workers talks about the (very real) stigma and you say "I don't agree" you're just being rude and ignorant for the sake of being rude and ignorant. You literally cannot "disagree" with a sex worker about sex work. It's OUR JOB. We literally know SO MUCH more about it than you do.

Posting ads, answering hundreds of texts and emails a week, paying ads, paying 2 condos, paying 2 phone plans sometimes, buying all the neccessities (condoms, more condoms, lube, more lube, toy, oils), getting our nails done, buying lingerie, buying 600$ worth of skincare, getting tested every month, putting up with the stigma, possible violence and rape, threats, fake bookings, harassment, our bodies being described in details on review boards, people texting you and expecting you to charge less because that dude wrote your price from 4 years ago in his review when he saw you 4 years ago, or this sexslave dude saying your job is easy when he knows nothing about it......

Yeah. Not easy.

I find this thread surreal! Starting from a particular event that upset him, a dude overgeneralizes by declaring that ALL masseuses in a massage parlor make easy money! A bad start already. The rest is not surprising.

His main argument: access to the job is easy, because it doesn't require any qualification. Obvious! Everyone agrees with this argument. No need to vary the examples ad nauseam. However, the dude stubbornly refuses to acknowledge the price of the stigma associated with sex work. A stigma that implies an enormous cost of renunciation, as Rose and you have explained!

Working as a miner, firefighter or cop doesn't require that much qualifications, but everyone agrees that these jobs are risky. No one will say that they make easy money because of the price of these risks. Unless you're an idiot.

There are many disadvantages and risks for sex workers. You, Julia and many others here have spoken about them knowingly. Agreeing to monetize the risks for firefighters or police officers, but refusing to do so for sex workers is symptomatic of the stigma they have to fight against.

Refusing to listen to their arguments, while they know what they are talking about, reveals how tenacious, unfounded and filthy the judgment about them is. You summed it up so well. Persisting like this is indeed just being rude and ignorant for the sake of being right at any cost despite the obvious.

Worse than that! When you go to see a sex worker with this idea of easy money in your head (like an alpha wolf watching for its prey), you not only shove your dick down her throat, you shove that prejudice down as well. "À besoin de m'sucer comme faut, la tabarnak, au prix qu'à d'mande!" Stigma works that way.

Same thing by keep going to defend such a prejudice in this forum, despite all the enlightened opinions to the contrary of those who do this work. You behave like a narrow-minded perpetuator of this stigma!
 
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I guess if it were so easy there wouldn’t be such turnover at the agencies and so many girls constantly leaving the business. I can’t think of another job where an entry level girl could make so much money quickly with so little training but than, why do so many quit? It must not be that easy?
 

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There is nothing easy about sharing intimacy with a complete stranger and when you add social stigma to that it makes it even harder. To think otherwise one would have to be completely ignorant.
 
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Bro. Saying "not true, I disagree, sex workers dont face stigma/violence" IS ignorant I'm really not sure what point you're trying to defend here. I did not say that outsiders in every field everywhere are clueless, but here particularly, I can say without a single doubt that we, sex workers, know more than sexslave, the incel, about the stigma and violence we face and the inner workings of OUR job. It's literally our job....... And we literally DO face these things. Saying "I disagree" is like saying "you're lying about things you experience". You should have MAYBE checked what I was talking about before making your pointless "point". You really came here and made yourself look like "no, lady its true : you dont face stigma".... NOT a good look.

Also, nobody is saying that police officers don't face violence HAHAHA you're just using nonsense now. " The capacity to understand without doing is a fundamental strength of humankind!!!" well then some people on here are lacking capacity. Surely it doesn't take la tête à papineau to understand the fact that yes, sex work is a business where we face stigma, violence, etc.


Bye felicia.

I don't really understand...what look?

-I never mentioned sexslave or wtv points he's been making.
-I noted it isn't easy money.
- I swapped police officer for sex worker to highlight the stigma and violence faced by sex worker.

My point wasn't really in defense of anything and more a global one that people can criticize, analyze, and draw conclusions about various aspects of a field or job even if they haven't done it and still be correct...even if not often. Like with the police. The reason I decided to make this point is because I felt it was worth pointing out that nothing is absolute in this world, and relying solely on the thoughts of one group leads to oblivion. I was also thinking a but about whether we're even real or not, but that's wildly off topic.:eek:
 
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-I never mentioned sexslave or wtv points he's been making.

But... you took my post out of context (I was obviously reffering to sexslave who said he disagreed with Rose) and gave an irrelevant reply to make me look like I said something I didn't say. I never said nobody knew anything about SW...
 

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Please don't compare those kind of jobs to a job as/in an MP


I don't compare risks between jobs, each job has its own risks. I point out that people accept to monetize more willingly for the risks and inconveniences of socially acceptable jobs, but refuse to do so in the case of SWs.

Refuse? Officially, yes. Unofficially, no. The proof is that a client is willing to pay up to $150 or more to have his dick pumped at the massage parlor.

"Monsieur" doesn’t pay this price out of kindness or generosity. This price is set by the market and is the opportunity cost associated with the risks and inconveniences of the job.

If not, explain to me why it’s so (too) expensive, recrimination behind this thread. Luckily, I can assure you, cause there wouldn't be many girls willing to pump the jizz out of the dick of about half a dozen strangers a day.
 
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