Black Lives Matter protests

[hungry101]

As I sit in my living room on this cool, rainy day I lament what a waste...Young men cut down in their prime by the police when there are so many more crimes to commit? A few of them, with a little help, could’ve made the FBI’s most wanted list. At least for young Joshua there is cyber crime to look forward to.

 

[IamNY]

This one happened back in March but Rochester NY is now in an uproar over it. This guy had serious mental problems, but the cops clearly shouldn't have done what they did:

7 Rochester police officers suspended over Daniel Prude's death, mayor says | CNN

Seven police officers in Rochester, New York, involved in the March arrest of a Black man who was pinned to the ground and later died have been suspended, the city's mayor announced.

www.cnn.com

 

[hungry101]

He was running down the street naked on PCP yelling something about killing people with guns. The bag was so he didn’t spit on them and pass COVID.

This is different from George Floyd in that the coroner ruled that the PCP in the Rochester man’s system was not of a concentration that could of killed him. George Floyd had a lethal dose of fentanyl in his system.

 

[IamNY]

Hungry, we usually agree on a lot of stuff, but I gotta disagree with you on this one. Yes he's on PCP, yes he's running naked down the street, yes he's spitting screaming that he has Covid. But, that's not a death sentence and it's certainly not for the police to decide. The guy had some serious mental issues, but that's no reason to kill him. he's handcuffed faced down on the ground, just bring him into custody, there were plenty of cops around to do it. There's no reason for this guy to die. Put in a mental institution? yes, not killed.

 

[hungry101]

I agree with all you said. The knee in the back was because the cops were trying to subdue a man that was experiencing excited delirium. Excited delirium leads to heart failure. The cops are trained to use a knee in the back to subdue them.

But mainly, I just want to point out that he was running down the street on PCP shouting about shooting people. This is because when I turn on the local news they always seem to skip over anything that would show the victim in a negative light. Everything that is reported must support the false narrative that the cops (many of them black) are racist against black perps. For example, Jacob was a peacemaker who’s only wish was to break up a fight. White suppremists started the riots in Minneapolis and elsewhere. George Floyd was getting his life together, etc.

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

Another reason to not allow someone with a knife approach.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=4328500833858800

 

[The Nature Boy]

Was that black dude in the media approaching with a knife though? He was walking away towards his car, lol! Got shot in the back, lol?? Not arguing whether it was justified or not. Like yea, maybe he had a knife in the car? Maybe not? Maybe he had a gun??? Who knows, but this Saul is quite a shitty video used as a comparison. Not even close.

 

[hungry101]

What if he grabbed a gun NB? It is good that we do what we do and do not have to 2nd guess felons all day long. My job was a lot safer.

 

[The Nature Boy]

He might have had a gun? Who knows? Might have had a grenade? Maybe there was a dildo to whack the cops with. Im not arguing what those cops did with that guy that your referring to (and shit there are so many of them popping up now a days that I’m not able to even keep track of name or city TBH and I’m saying this to say it just feels like every day it’s another story regardless of who is to blame) what I’m saying is that the video Saul posted is no way shape or form is any comparison. It’s a no brainer. The one in the media about the dude gettin shot in the back leaves a lot to be pondered. No weapon, no cop is getting charged at.

What if he was just goin to his car to get a Fizzy Pop? It’s possible, highly unlikely but possible. Might have worked up a sweat resisting arrest. Fact of the matter is he got shot in the back, 7 times, not once. You could shoot a guy once, grab him by the shirt like the cop was, yank him from car so he doesn’t get the knife or fizzy pop, and guard car door so he doesn’t get near it. But Some dudes are crazy strong when they are hyped on adrenaline so who knows. Point is one video shows a dude getting shot by a cop in the back 7 times because he looks pissed cause his suspect is resisting arrest and walking away from him unarmed. Another is showing some armed dude charging @ 1st responders with a weapon. No comparison

 

[hungry101]

Ok, But what do they all have in common? If they comply they’re ok. All accept for George Floyd who at first resisted but did comply. To me, Floyd is different than all the rest in that he eventually complied and was in custody. Yes, it may have been that he had a potentially lethal dose of fentanyl in his system that killed him but what the cop did was wrong and may have contributed to his death. However, the rest of them I have little much less sympathy for. Comply!

 

[Fradi]

What if he was just goin to his car to get a Fizzy Pop? It’s possible, highly unlikely but possible. Might have worked up a sweat resisting arrest. Fact of the matter is he got shot in the back, 7 times, not once.

I don’t agree with him getting shot in the back 7 times at all and believe it was excessive force and unwarranted, but......
What if he didn’t take away someone’s keys, what if he wasn’t a career criminal, what if he behaved like a decent human being in front of and thought of his children first.
What if he didn’t go for a Fizzy Pop and complied with the police request and allowed himself to be handcuffed and led away to have his day in court.
What if his dad stayed by his ”babies” side in the hospital and didn’t raise a career criminal instead of grabbing every microphone that is offered ( along with I am assuming monetary compensation) and trying to become the celebrity of the day
These type of people are not the heroes to be used for people to take the black lives matter movement seriously .
The black community can and should do much better than these guys.

 

[hungry101]

Perps with 3 outstanding warrants for violent crammed who have just committed an additional violent crime and do not comply after being tased twice and then go onto their car during a fight with the police are treated differently.

 

[The Nature Boy]

Fradi, you don’t get it. No one is taking to the streets and celebrating a guy who was selling loosies in staten island like Eric garner. I’m not opposed to cops using choke holds. If I was getting my ass kicked by this dude I’d throw one on in a heart beat. Especially if I was there just doin my job. But the video shows that’s not what happened. Cop went straight for choke hold before anything else.

Again, the masses aren’t goin out and sayin these blokes are role models. They are showing outrage that guys like Bernie madoff, Jeffrey Epstein, Dzhokhar Tzarnev got more decency than some of the peeps you see on the tube these days getting shot cause the cop can’t or doesn’t wanna run after him.

This guy got a pretty good deal, him and his mom who drove him into town

This poor dude got a really shitty deal

Here’s another one, posted by the pro black, anti trump media.

And another one years before the dude got shot @ Wendy’s because the cop didn’t wanna chase after him

https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/local/article17776091.html

I’m not sayin all cops are racist, I’m sayin some of you may be though, lol

 

[The Nature Boy]

Perps with 3 outstanding warrants for violent crammed who have just committed an additional violent crime and do not comply after being tased twice and then go onto their car during a fight with the police are treated differently.

True, I agree with statement. Also think Floyd likely died of asphyxia because of the knee to the neck, not Fentanyl, lol!

 

[Fradi]

I get it just fine.
They are using these guys to protest and cry out about racism.
Yes there is racism, always has been, these are the wrong people to hold up as shining examples and to paint as heroes like the media is trying to make them out to be and the black lives matter movement should distance themselves from it.
Your Bernie Madoffs are despicable human beings and probably caused more human suffering than any of these petty screwed up criminals that are in the news now.
The difference is none of these guys resisted arrest giving the cops an opportunity to shoot them.
The other issue is that there are white criminals being shot and abused by cops also but of course that is not news worthy and doesn’t come with towns being looted and burned and cannot be pinned on Trump or Biden to be used as a political ploy.

The other criminals in all of this that nobody wants to name is the media on both sides that seems to salivate on each one of these cases and fuels the fire as much as possible.
What a fucked up country the US is right now with all this going on along with the pandemic as well.
Americans deserve much better than this.

Most guys looting burning and carrying TV on their shoulders never even heard of Bernie Madoff, so maybe you don’t get it.

 

[The Nature Boy]

I get it just fine.
They are using these guys to protest and cry out about racism.
Yes there is racism, always has been, these are the wrong people to hold up as shining examples and to paint as heroes like the media is trying to make them out to be and the black lives matter movement should distance themselves from it.

Your Bernie Madoffs are despicable human beings and probably caused more human suffering than any of these petty screwed up criminals that are in the news now.


The difference is none of these guys resisted arrest giving the cops an opportunity to shoot them.

Oh there you go again my fine feathered friend

I think victims is a better word vs hero’s. Don’t think the media ( n we may be watching two different sources) @ all is painting anyone out to be a hero

Those dudes being asked to get their license out were not resisting.

The guy @ Wendy’s was, but they had his car, his license info, he was complying until the dick cop showed up. Still, he shouldn’t have resisted. He even stole a taser. All bad, bad things. Was the taser discharged by the dude? If it was and the cop fired shots? I don’t know? It’s tough to say who would do what in certain situations. Just feels that a lot of you are looking @ these protests with so much disdain. Where’s it coming from? I think there is enough pent up accumulated outrage that’s justified. I can see some reasons why people are taking to the streets. Don’t see it as black and white. Seenit as common sense. Don’t think it’s valid for people to say “black people get to march why can’t we have a trump or biker rally”

Anywhoo, I’ve expended waaaay too much time on this bullshit and after perusing some twitter pics of rose delacourt and LOLATHEBRAT I’m inspired to do a 40 min glut workout on the stair master

Toodle-li-do all you david dukes

 

[Fradi]

Anywhoo, I’ve expended waaaay too much time on this bullshit and after perusing some twitter pics of rose delacourt and LOLATHEBRAT I’m inspired to do a 40 min glut workout on the stair master

Toodle-li-do all you david dukes

Now you are finally on the right track and we can all agree with you.
Two exceptional choices.
Unfortunately off limits right now to some of us lol for different reasons.

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

Just feels that a lot of you are looking @ these protests with so much disdain.

Wow... Is there any other way to look at them? I for one would get front row seats to see the military come in and start messing some of these people up. ANTIFA went to shit years ago, BLM is following the same path, useless to anyone.
When some of their group vandalized the king's wall, burned down stores, disrupted traffic, held cities basically at ransom, beat up seniors I figure it it time to put a stop to it, do not care if people got hurt.
Just my opinion

 

[CLOUD 500]

From what I have seen is that police completely lack any training on people with mental dysfunctions. A lot of the cases that went bad where someone got killed by a cop was because that person was in mental distress and police are militarized in that when they attack they shoot to kill, if someone has a knife they can take a shot on the leg or shoulder that is enough to disable anyone why should in the body that could kill? In other words they have a tendency to use excessive force. In addition they are trained in that the harder you resist the harder they push back. A lot of these cases required a psychologist not police like in the case of a Native who got killed by police during a wellness check that the family asked to do but instead she got killed because she had a knife. I mean seriously a bunch of cops who are double her size with bullet proof vests had the need to shoot her several times? She was in mental distress and they had no idea how to deal with it. This will keep on happening till police are demilitarized and given training on how to deal with people with mental dysfunction. In the case with George Floyd he was clearly in mental distress but Derek Chauvin (typical behavior in the army) a veteran cop with a long rap sheet already wanted to impress the young rookie cops so he did what he did thinking he can get away with it. Ego was in play here. More social unrest will build up. We got shitty politicians who got their own agenda. War between the left and right. Antifa and BLM is the beginning of the anarchist movement and it growing day by day which is to the left we already had the build up of the alt-right groups like White Supremacists etc..

 

[hungry101]

A colleague of mine in Montreal once told
me that the policemen that shot Micheal Brown could of shot him in the foot instead. Please watch SolTee’s video. The deranged man with the knife went down with a hail of gunfire and then got up. Another officer moved in to use a taser and then the perpetrator grabbed him. It is unclear what the perp was able to do to the cop. The perp was stoped by another hail of gunfire and this time a bullet struck his head.

Soltee’s video is a perfect video in that it demonstrates what happens when someone deranged is shot pretty much anywhere but in the head or central nervous system. You bleed out but you still have plenty of time to do damage. A shot to the foot is going to be difficult to pull off for one thing. If you hit a guy there, a few hours later after the drugs and adrenaline wear off and maybe some semblance of rational thought begins to return, it may be a deterrent as in “darn it. He shot me in the foot. That really hurts.” A 9 mm round to the foot is not going to neutralize a deranged criminal.

Thank God that they shot and killed Rashard Brooks. He was doing time for false imprisonment (kidnapping) and child cruelty and was let out early for Covid so he could quarantine. He was quarentining drunk, in the Wendy’s drive through (very nice). He demonstrated why he was put in prison in the first place when he tossed the cops around like rag dolls and tased one and tried to tase the other. Good riddance to this piece of shit.

There is a silver lining. Rashard and the peacemaker Jacob will no longer be able to terrorize these woman and children any longer. Maybe, if there is a settlement in some instances, the money will be directed to the children that these criminals made but never cared for or provided for. They are finally doing some good for them.