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If my time has come, my time has come. What can i say? If im to die on a 0.02% odd... well then luck was not on my side :p
Sometimes you do need to roll the dice. I kind of peek at those stats every time I board an airplane because on an airplane you are helpless, not in control and whether the pilot had a bad day could decide your fate.
 
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I don't follow Quebec news too closely. Is there any indication on reopening?

I had a trip booked already for late Jan. Trying to figure out if I should cancel it.
 

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I don't follow Quebec news too closely. Is there any indication on reopening?

I had a trip booked already for late Jan. Trying to figure out if I should cancel it.

Last year we were in a similar situation. They lifted bans on non essential services at the end of the first week of Feb.

At that time, hospital cases were high but on a down trend. We haven’t peaked yet so it’s still early to try and predict

My guess is it will be very similar to last year.
 

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Last year we were in a similar situation. They lifted bans on non essential services at the end of the first week of Feb.

At that time, hospital cases were high but on a down trend. We haven’t peaked yet so it’s still early to try and predict

My guess is it will be very similar to last year.

This year though lots of non-essential things are open. Last year was different in that regard...
 

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Ahhh...it's an interesting article. Frankly, I am considering getting the booster for Omicron (ie. 3rd shot). I already reserved a slot for next month, just in case.

But I'm also weary and would prefer to wait it out as much as possible such that the kinks are worked out. I think it's Moderna that's mainly available right now, but would prefer Pfizer if possible. That's what I had for my first two shots.

Dunno...anybody else considering getting their 3rd shot?
 
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According to Dubé's conference at 13h00 : There were 12,833 new cases announced. So far no additional restrictions. He said as of 4th January, everyone will be admissible to get a 3rd dose. He also said health care workers infected with covid will still work under certain conditions.

 
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Any Americans go to Montreal since the shutdowns?

I have a trip scheduled after new year and I'm worried I'll get turned away or hassled by immigrations when they ask me what I'll be doing... when everything is closed.
 

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Dunno...anybody else considering getting their 3rd shot?
Didn't need much consideration got mine the first chance I had.
Can only hope with Omicron that if I still end up getting it which seems to be very likely it won’t be too serious.
This new variant makes vaccine passports completely useless and half assed curfews to certain hours makes no sense as the virus can spread just as easily during daytime as night.
Best bet is to get the vaccines and basically hope for the best, wear a mask, keep your distance where you can and go on living your life, I will not lock myself away anymore, fuck it 2 years was enough of this shit.
 

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This new variant makes vaccine passports completely useless

Wouldn't this say otherwise ?


Why are we still seeing a very high percentage of non vaccinated in the cases and hospitalizations ?
 

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Wouldn't this say otherwise ?


Why are we still seeing a very high percentage of non vaccinated in the cases and hospitalizations ?
I don’t think publishing an outdated statistic makes too much sense do you?
This may have been true NoV 2020 to Aug 2021 but with Omicron your chances of being effected and spreading it are narrowing to the point where passports make no sense, vaccination does because you will still be much more protected from getting seriously sick or hospitalized but even that gap is closing everyday now it is something like x13 times as likely and a couple of months ago it was x25.
 
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I don’t think publishing an outdated statistic makes too much sense do you?
This may have been true NoV 2020 to Aug 2021 but with Omicron your chances of being effected and spreading it are narrowing to the point where passports make no sense, vaccination does because you will still be much more protected from getting seriously sick or hospitalized but even that gap is closing everyday now it is something like x13 times as likely and a couple of months ago it was x25.


A CDC doctor was quoting this today. She was using it as background for their decision, so I'll leave it to you to agree if it makes sense

They were explaining the new CDC guidelines that indicate vaccinated to be less risk of transmission and they reflect this in their guidelines updated this week. They specifically reference Omicron as part of their reasoning

A vaccinated person "exposed" does not need to quarantine. A non vaccinated does. If this is accurate it actually amplifies the need for passport.

Once again, the x13 vs x25 is very age group dependant and will shift as older age groups continue to be a higher % of infected. (as per Quebec government)
 
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A CDC doctor was quoting this today. I should get her to contact you so you can correct her.

They were explaining the new CDC guidelines that indicate vaccinated to be less risk of transmission and they reflect this in their guidelines updated this week.

A vaccinated person "exposed" does not need to quarantine. A non vaccinated does. If this is accurate it actually amplifies the need for passport.

Once again, the x13 vs x25 is very age group dependant and will shift as older age groups continue to be a higher % of infected. (as per Quebec government)
This is what the study was based on a direct quote from the article
“individuals obtained as part of the National Basketball Association’s occupational health program between Nov. 28, 2020, and Aug. 11, 2021”.
Btw this is just one study search long enough and you will find a study to prove whatever you want that is the nature of the internet .

I look at daily statistics published by the Government of Quebec and the gap of getting infected by vaccinated or non vaccinated has narrowed to the point where to me I repeat the vaccine passports are useless.


This is total BS by the way that a vaccinated person does not need to quarantine.
Read between the lines and see the actual panic.
They have now lowered the quarantine period to 5 days and actually allowing infected nurses/doctors to keep on working in hot areas.
They simply do not have the personnel to give care to all the sick so now they are risk managing as best they can.
I do not believe that being vaccinated is really nearly as good with Omicron for being able to evade the virus as it was before. There was always the case that the elderly were more susceptible that has not changed. The old and weak and sick are more likely to die from a common cold also.
 

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This is total BS by the way that a vaccinated person does not need to quarantine.

I agree and I am simply relaying that they (the CDC) believe the vaccinated to be less likely to transmit than the non vaccinated.

Enough to justify the burden of the passport system ?

I personally prefer other methods to reflect the burden the unvaccinated place on the system.
 
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