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This may surprise you but, right now, sex is NOT the first thing on my mind.
It is quite out of character I know.

Is it the 2nd thing on your mind...lol.
Just trying to get you to laugh doc...
 

Dr Edgar Who

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Hey MODS,

I would really appreciate an answer soon!

No answer and I'm going to start to worry either one of you is friends with the young charming ruffian (with a slightly tech-ish style) who may have stuck me up or you have fallen prey to her considerable charms. Is there any reason I can't reply by PM identifying her by her escort name. Sure, sucks to be her. Hopefully she'll be ostracised by this entire community or manage to convincingly prove her innocence. Problem is that setting me up SO appears in character for this gal. If she is guilty she certainly deserves ostracism and this is MUCH better than a criminal record which is what most people would be trying to saddle her with now.
 

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It's just a guessing game but one can increase the odds. I've gone through all of Dr Edgar Who's posts and cut and pasted anything that might give clues to the woman... who he has seen, who he has sought, the type of woman he likes, who used to be with a well known agency, who doesn't advertise now, who has a boyfriend with a ski mask... etc.

I haven't finished my analysis but just cutting and pasting brought one name to mind.... but other clues eliminated her... whew ... thank goodness... because she's one I really like, respect and trust.

I'm not 100% reformed, but I won't publish any conclusion I come to or pass it on by PM. It wouldn't be fair to anyone as it would just be somewhat refined speculation.
 

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Hello Dr.

Seeing as you have no proof at all that this lady was involved in this incident in any way other than as a victim, any disclosure of her name would be against MERB rules. It should be quite obvious that we cannot control what you do by PM, but we would advise against it. While we will not allow the name to be posted here, other boards do not have the same standards and if you reveal it by PM it would soon be posted elsewhere.

This is a criminal issue and if you decide not to report it to the proper authorities that is your choice. But we will not allow MERB to be turned into a kangaroo court where someone will be tried and convicted on your feelings alone without having the opportunity to provide a defense.

The best thing I can advise is to report this to the police or put it behind you. If it is discovered that you are sending this lady's name around by PM, a permanent ban may be the result.

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for fellow merbites information... i was contacted by the same 'retired' girl recently for a get together. i didn't get back to her right away because i was busy. i guess she contacted a lot of guys and took the first one who responded to her. how unfortunate for dr. edgar who.

this is such a sad situation for her and quite heart breaking for me. we had a lot of off-the-clock booty calls over a period of a few months so i would have trusted her completely, even though i knew she was a troubled girl with a perpetually troubled life. if it was me instead of the good dr., her bf would be dead if the gun was real and i would not hesitate to call the cops. it looks like i dodged a bullet (pun intended).

again, all i can say is this is so very sad.
 

Dr Edgar Who

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Hello Mod 8,

Okay, fair enough. So people, you can guess all you like but I can't reply to your PMs asking me who it is and, again, I will no longer answer queries even in the negative to be absolutely sure she can't even be identified even by elimination. I'm very Sorry. If this has never happened to this girl before then maybe it was just bad luck for both of us. I imagine that if it was a setup then she won't dare ever do it again. So, whoever she is, you are probably safe in seeing her.

I wouldn't go so far as to say I have no evidence at all, pretty compelling balance of evidence stuff. Airtight criminal convinction proof perhaps not. I don't know how solid the evidence for that would have to be. Again, this isn't a court of law. That said, since we can't actually put a name to her here then I don't see the point, for the moment, in providing more details. I will sleep on that. She will most likely gradually come to be identified in the community and I kinda feel like the full evidence should be out there because, if she's guilty it reflects very strongly on her character. Do you want to be intimate with such a woman? On the other hand, I would almost rather hold on to it for the authorities if I ever feel I have to go that route. Since the actual damage to my life at the moment is not significant, I think I prefer to let it pass for now.
 
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Hello Mod 8,

What is the Board's policy with respect to death threats sent by PM? Wouldn't this ordinarily result in some suspension of privileges?

Dee
 

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Hello Dee,

Any threats should be sent immediately to a moderator and we will take whatever action is required.

M8
 

Dr Edgar Who

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First of all, like I said, if someone says "I want to kill you" that is not necessarily a death threat... it's a common figure of speech when you are seriously pissed off. I perhaps shouldn't have quoted that. Second, that was by text message by phone NOT by PM on MERB.
 
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Dr Edgar Who

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for fellow merbites information... i was contacted by the same 'retired' girl recently for a get together. i didn't get back to her right away because i was busy. i guess she contacted a lot of guys and took the first one who responded to her. how unfortunate for dr. edgar who.

this is such a sad situation for her and quite heart breaking for me. we had a lot of off-the-clock booty calls over a period of a few months so i would have trusted her completely, even though i knew she was a troubled girl with a perpetually troubled life. if it was me instead of the good dr., her bf would be dead if the gun was real and i would not hesitate to call the cops. it looks like i dodged a bullet (pun intended).

again, all i can say is this is so very sad.

Hmmm. You don't know for sure if this is the same woman, we dont' know for sure if she is guilty, and, as I've said, you might actually be safe in seeing her now even if she was.
I say this partly because I don't even really want to ruin her business; the less pissed off she is at me the better. It is definitely a very sad thing that happened for both she and I.

I would add that YOU know if you are guilty or not and if YOU are then it really reflects poorly on who you are. That wasn't a cute joke. Who you are is more important than all the money in the world. If you are guilty I strongly suggest you change because as beautiful as you are outside you're very ugly inside. Being beautiful does not entitle you to whatever you want whenever you want it. It doesn't entitle you to hurt or threaten other people. You say you believe in God, well, if you do... better start compensating for that already cause I think that would be a pretty serious demerit to overcome. Best of luck. God or no god there's an old expression "what goes around comes around" and I suggest you learn what it means.
 
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Dr Edgar Who

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Tell you guys all one thing about what happened : sure grabs your attention and focuses it on what's important (we'll see how long that lasts).
There is pretty fundamental value in people who you really can trust and who really do love you. There is value in just living and there is risk
in meeting up with beautiful young women who, in too many cases, are troubled and willing to do almost anything for money.
 

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Tell you guys all one thing about what happened : sure grabs your attention and focuses it on what's important (we'll see how long that lasts).
There is pretty fundamental value in people who you really can trust and who really do love you. There is value in just living and there is risk
in meeting up with beautiful young women who, in too many cases, are troubled and willing to do almost anything for money.

Dr. EW,

You have hit the nail on the head. I learned a long time ago through some painful lessons and adopted the following outlook: "Trust no one."

From that viewpoint, I then back into the position to allow people to "earn" my trust. Yes, I believe trust must be earned. Yes, it can be a lonely position to take in life, but it also prevents me from getting hurt (recently I realized the built in defense mechanism inherent to this). It seems to work for me.

I can count on 1 hand the people I "really" trust in my life. And yes, there are some in the business.
Good luck my friend. Its sad sometimes that something so dramatic has to happen to make us realize whats important. But the silver lining in dark cloud here is that you did realize it and so far no one got hurt.

Life goes on.
 

Dr Edgar Who

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I can count on 1 hand the people I "really" trust in my life. And yes, there are some in the business.
Good luck my friend. Its sad sometimes that something so dramatic has to happen to make us realize whats important. But the silver lining in dark cloud here is that you did realize it and so far no one got hurt.

Yeah Amen again. Lucky me I have family and at least a half dozen proven friends who've been in my life for 20+ years.
I think I will focus a lot on those for a while and take a break from escorts and pockets heavy with cash. Anyway, as I said,
I think I may spend most of this week-end locked into my house.
 

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I have been generous with her beyond the call of duty in the past and I just don't understand how someone could do something like that to someone who has tried to be so generous with them. Let's just say my confidence in humanity, and escorts in particular, isn't at an all time high right now.

Sorry to hear that, I'm sure you'll recover from this with time..If that really was a setup, she took your kindness as a weakness. That's a mistake some people do. They don't realize the potential harmful consequences of abusing people. They will eventually run into somebody who might not react like you did ; with disastrous outcome, lives shattered..I can understand you in this ; I, too, am a nice guy (like a gentleman). I am sometimes aware that some people see my kindness as a way to exploit me. The way I deal with them is to rebuke them or avoid them like the plague. Stay true to yourself and listen to your intuition (or 6th sense). Cheers
 
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I am very dissappointed to learn of this unfortunate situation. Typically to avoid such situations, I only deal with reputable agencies. Sometimes we might enjoy the company of a specific escort but I believe it is best not to monopolize our time with any one specific escort to avoid establishing any type of relationship that may then be exploited in future times. Plus it is more fun to see many different escorts than the same one over and over again.
 

Dr Edgar Who

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I am very dissappointed to learn of this unfortunate situation. Typically to avoid such situations, I only deal with reputable agencies. Sometimes we might enjoy the company of a specific escort but I believe it is best not to monopolize our time with any one specific escort to avoid establishing any type of relationship that may then be exploited in future times.

Thanks for this post. I had not appreciated this reason to keep things changing. I tend to like settling in with girls I know I appreciate but this is something to consider.
In future I think it would be wise to stick with hotel encounters exclusively and deal with agencies or at least indies with a website and reputation on the line.
 

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To conclude, I do not think you have enough evidence to make an official complaint and point at suspects right now, but if you do a little research, discuss confidentially with LE ( or even send a friend or a family member get information on your behalf) I think it would be the proper think to do. You were not the victim of a pick-pocket, you were the victim of a serious crime. Let's say you find out in a few weeks that another hobbyist fell in the same scam and ends up killed. You will always have on the conscience that you did absolutely nothing about it...

Good luck, and thank you for sharing this with us, we are all more aware of these possibilitees thanks to you and we'll be more cautious.

Hello Dr.

I have to agree with Pokerpro completely. In the end you have put together a very believable scenario based on circumstances that seem to fit well. But it all still comes down to speculation without any real evidence that will lead to a conviction, unless some proof surfaces. In a way it's too bad the thief didn't get your credit card or something traceable that would link the thief to this specific crime. Right now I don't see where the proof is against any person.

As for what is happening with this thread perhaps your efforts to provide an answer to every question is becoming counterproductive. You have put out more than enough to put this terrible episode on record and essentially provided a good warning to all members of the "possibilities" as Pokerpo said. If nothing else it's an illuminating warning to all. Now I think it's time for you to consider everything and decide what you should do.

And make sure you send any PMs from her to the mods, as well as make a file of them for yourself.

Good luck,

Merlot
 

Dr Edgar Who

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I personally don't feel I did absolutely nothing about it. Her clients are definitely predominantly montrealers and MERBITES and I have tried to put a warning out there. Apparently her name cannot be circulated by PM (that is not my decision) so valuable info for potential victims is not out there. Yes, I would be upset if something happened but I think posting this info on MERB is at least as useful to protect other men as going to the police. I think she would have to be extremely stupid to pull something again after this thread. I assume that if she did the MODs will relent and allow her name to be circulated at least by PM.
 

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Hello everyone,

MERB is not a court of law or a law enforcement agency. Posting the name of anyone, real or their SP alias, and accusing them of committing a criminal offense such as armed robbery could open MERB up to possible legal consequences. If anyone believes that someone is involved in such an offense the proper thing to do is to call the police. Please do not try to put the blame on MERB and it's moderators if there is a repeat of this situation. We are not the one who was robbed and refused to file a police report. If you believe that strongly that she was involved, file a report. We will not allow a public lynching to happen on MERB.

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Just check some websites and you'll easily know who we are talking about. Dr Edgar Who, I'm very sorry for you. You played a very risky game and believe it or not things could have end up very differently. Accidents sometimes happen...My message to HOBBYIST is simple: AVOID THIS GIRL. She's a real danger. She's just greed and who knows what she could do for couple $$$?

This is one of the consequences of stupid agency policies, increasing prices are generating such tendencies. Prices goes up, booking goes down, Clients try to deal in direct with the girls to have better deals (indy trend...) some of them agree (to make more money) and then the "greed effect" is enough to create situation like this.

Hope as a community we all learn from this.
 
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