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It (The Graduate) all started for the then unknown Dustin Hoffman in this movie which was released in 1967 and became a gigantic box office hit.

I saw "The Graduate" for the very first time about two years ago and absolutely loved it!! I can just imagine how much more i would have loved it had i seen it 40+ years ago when it came out. Hoffman's role kind of reminded me of myself when i was in my late teen's early 20's. The soundtrack was one of the best soundtracks ever made for a movie (by Simon & Garfunkle) and one of the reasons why i loved listening to Simon & Garfunkle back in the 70's. The movie was directed by the great Mike Nichols, who also directed The Birdcage, Biloxi Blues, Regarding Henry, Working Girl, Silkwood, Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf & Charlie Wilson's War.

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Great, great movie!! I must have seen it over a dozen times!! Director Michael Cimino's tour-de-force!! One of greatest movies ever made centered around the Vietnam War and how it affected people, friendships and their families over the years. De Niro, Walken & Savage were brilliant. Was this Meryl Streep's first movie?? This was John Cazale's final performance. He was dying of bone cancer when he appeared in The Deer Hunter.

A bit long in lenght,!

John Cazale was better known for portraying Fredo in the two first Godfather movies. IMHO his best performance was in the movie Dog Day Afternoon as a bank robber alongside Al Pacino. Great performances from the 2 actors and a classic movie.
 

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Gents,

Some of you guys are stealing my best suggestions. "Casablanca", "On The Waterfront"...but I've written before about "Once Upon A Time In The West" on this board long ago. It's often ranked as one of the best Western of all time and it's considered a masterpiece by Sergio Leone. There are long stretches of hauntingly moving music and very minimal use of dialogue relying on extreme closeups. The opening itself uses only simple sounds to strong moving effect. Henry Fonda is brutal against type, Charles Bronson, Jason Robards, and Claudia Cardinale will have your heart racing in many directions. I remember seeing it in a drive-in when it came out. The cinematography is fabulous.

The film features leitmotifs that relate to each of the main characters (each with their own theme music) as well as to the spirit of the American West. Especially compelling are the wordless vocals by Italian singer Edda Dell'Orso during the theme music for the Claudia Cardinale character. It was Leone's desire to have the music available and played during filming. Leone had Morricone compose the score before shooting started and would play the music in the background for the actors on set.

Once Upon a Time in the West, itself, is referenced in The Quick and the Dead, with Gene Hackman's character, John Herod, facing Ellen, a.k.a. "Lady" (Sharon Stone) in the final gunfight. Her identity is a mystery until the end, when the audience sees Ellen's flashback to Herod lynching her father, a sheriff, and giving her a chance to save her father by shooting the rope and severing it, but it goes wrong. As with Frank, Herod yells, "Who are you?" and the only response he receives is an artifact from the earlier lynching, in this case the sheriff's badge that Ellen has kept all these years. The Quick and the Dead has another connection to Once Upon a Time in the West: It was the final film for Woody Strode, who died before it could be released.

Once Upon a Time in the West has gained an ardent cult following around the world, particularly among cineastes and filmmakers. In the late 1960s and 1970s, it was re-evaluated by young filmmakers and critics, many of whom called it a masterpiece. Directors including Quentin Tarantino, Martin Scorsese, George Lucas, John Carpenter, John Milius, John Boorman, and Baz Luhrmann have spoken about the influence that the film had on them. It is now considered one of the greatest films ever made and some critics consider it to be the finest Western and Sergio Leone's finest accomplishment as a director.[citation needed] Review aggregation website Rotten Tomatoes retrospectively collected reviews from 52 critics and gave the film a score of 98%.[8] Once Upon a Time in the West can be found on numerous film polls and 'best of' lists.

Current rankings

Time named Once Upon a Time in the West as one of the 100 greatest films of the 20th century.
In They Shoot Pictures, Don't They's list of the 1000 Greatest Films, Once Upon a Time in the West is placed at number 62.
Total Film magazine placed Once Upon a Time in the West in their special edition issue of the 100 Greatest Movies.
In 2008, Empire held a poll of "The 500 Greatest Movies of All Time", taking votes from 10,000 readers, 150 filmmakers and 50 film critics. "Once Upon a Time in the West" was voted in at number 14, the highest Western on the list.

If you haven't seen it you've missed something unforgettable.

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John Cazale was better known for portraying Fredo in the two first Godfather movies. IMHO his best performance was in the movie Dog Day Afternoon as a bank robber alongside Al Pacino. Great performances from the 2 actors and a classic movie.

I agree, Better known as Fredo, and best performance in Dog Day Afternoon, once again alongside Al Pacino.
 

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What!!!???:confused:

Actually, i saw it for the first time with my babysitter when i was a child. The only thing i remembered about it was the music (Mrs. Robinson, Sound of Silence, Scarborough Affair) and the part where he calls the stripper over to dance at his & Kathryn Ross' table. Speaking of Kathryn Ross, i used to find her so damn gorgeous back in the 70's, first seeing her in The Graduate and then in another classic, "Butch Cassidy & the Sundance Kid". There was a tv sequel later where she played the main character "Sundance Woman".
 

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Current rankings

Time named Once Upon a Time in the West as one of the 100 greatest films of the 20th century.
In They Shoot Pictures, Don't They's list of the 1000 Greatest Films, Once Upon a Time in the West is placed at number 62.
Total Film magazine placed Once Upon a Time in the West in their special edition issue of the 100 Greatest Movies.
In 2008, Empire held a poll of "The 500 Greatest Movies of All Time", taking votes from 10,000 readers, 150 filmmakers and 50 film critics. "Once Upon a Time in the West" was voted in at number 14, the highest Western on the list.
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If you haven't seen it you've missed something unforgettable.

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So what about the two other sequel from that movie, did they get any honor or recognition ?
 

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Blowup (1966)

This 1966 British-Italian film directed by Michelangelo Antonioni won the Grand Prix at Cannes Film Festival and is considered one of the most influential films of the 1960s. I see it being copied in modern films to this day, most recently in the 2012 horror film Sinister which I reviewed in the recent movie thread. When I studied film in college, this was one of the first films we viewed in my introduction to film class. My film professor believed that this movie was a modern masterpiece at that time.

The movie is filmed in London and is about a British fashion photographer (David Hemmings) who believes he may have witnessed a murder and unwittingly taken photographs of the killing, after he does blow ups of some random film of random subjects he shot at a London park. These suspicions are enhanced when one of the persons he photographed contacts him and demands he turn over the film. The rest of the movie is devoted to his unravelling of the mystery of exactly what the hell it was he photographed in the park, which appears in the grainy blow ups to be a possible body and a possible figure with a gun hiding in the trees, although these images are not clear. Although the film is technologically dated as Kodak has long since gone bankrupt and developing and blowing up Kodak film is a thing of the past, the film's "film within a film" concept is still being used with other media (in the case of Sinister, it is Super 8 film on which an apparent murder is seen).

The movie contains a cameo performance by the legendary 1960s British rock band the Yardbirds in which Jeff Beck, Jimmy Page, Keith Relf and original drummer Chris Drega all appear, and in which Beck smashes his guitar into pieces.

The movie also has a distinctive British/European artsy flair that you do not see in American films. Despite this, the movie was a smash critical and box office success in the USA, and its counterculture content directly led to the institution of the MPAA ratings code in 1968, which is used to the current date. Ironically, there is nothing in the movie, other than some drug use by the characters, that is particularly controversial by today's standards.

Highly recommended for those who enjoy arthouse type films - it's one of the all time best.
 

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This 1966 British-Italian film directed by Michelangelo Antonioni won the Grand Prix at Cannes Film Festival and is considered one of the most influential films of the 1960s.
The movie is filmed in London and is about a British fashion photographer (David Hemmings) who believes he may have witnessed a murder and unwittingly taken photographs of the killing, after he does blow ups of some random film of random subjects he shot at a London park. These suspicions are enhanced when one of the persons he photographed contacts him and demands he turn over the film.
Highly recommended for those who enjoy arthouse type films - it's one of the all time best.

Brian De palma made an adaptation of this movie in 1981 called Blow Out starring John Travolta, Nancy Allen, John Lithgow and Dennis Franz. Not as good as Blow Up, but still enjoyable to watch.
 

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So what about the two other sequel from that movie, did they get any honor or recognition ?

Hello str8flash,

I think you mean the preceding trilogy. The trilogy was "A Fistful of Dollars (1964), For a Few Dollars More (1965) and The Good, the Bad and the Ugly (1966)" came out before "Once Upon A Time In The West" in 1968 and in my opinion is a refined culmination of storytelling style methods and cinematographic technique. The first three are more stylized/dramatized versions of old westerns. I love them. But "Once Upon A Time In The West" is a culmination of the best elements of those movies that then goes even further than the best of the previous films. The pacing slower, the score often like opera, the acting often very minimal, but very powerful. Some might say it's too melodramatic, but I think those who've seen it feel they've had a powerful experience they won't forget.

Here are some sample rankings:

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/top/bestofrt/top_100_western_movies/?category=17

I've seen 95% of those listed, and honestly, this movie stands alone for pure style among westerns, even if you like other styles more.

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I think you mean the preceding trilogy. The trilogy was "A Fistful of Dollars (1964), For a Few Dollars More (1965) and The Good, the Bad and the Ugly (1966)"

No, i'm talking about the second trilogy that started with Once Upon a time in the west. The other ones are Fistfull of Dynamite witch is also called Duck, you sucker starring James Coburn and Rod Steiger. The french version is call: Il était une fois la révolution. I saw that it is rank #31 on The Rotten Tomatoes.
The last movie is Once upon a time in America starring Robert Deniro, Joe Pesci and James Wood. They're not western movies but still part of a Sergio Leone's triology.
 

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Der Blaue Engel (the Blue Angel) with Marlene Dietrich, 1930 (shot both in German and English versions).

A good movie and highly relevant for the community here. A respected college professor becomes infatuated with an cabaret entertainer (wink-wink). After a scandal, he resigns his position to marry her and soon loses money and dignity to finally become a clown in the cabaret before dying a lonely miserable remorseful death.
 

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I went into my Netflix queue to see what other Classics I watched in the last few months and among them were these:

All Quiet On The Western Front (1930)- I liked this movie which was banned in Nazi Germany as being propagandist. The battle scenes are surprisingly good and realistic considering the technology available at that time.

The War of the Worlds (1953)- Classic science fiction film- decent special effects.

The Day The Earth Stood Still (1951) another classic science fiction film.

The Last Man On Earth (1964) Classic horror/science fiction, this is considered the first modern zombie film. In the movie, Vincent Price is the apparent last man on Earth who battles zombies that stage a nightly attack on his house. Fortunately for Price, these early film zombies are slow, dumb and weak, and he is able to overpower the few who actually get their hands on him. Most of them, however, resort to the same dumb failed attack methods every night. This goes on for 3 years until Price, on a fuel run during the day, discovers another apparent survivor.......or so he thinks.
A real Classic, and I enjoyed it more than the two remakes, "Omega Man" with Charlton Heston from 1971 (which I also saw) and the more recent I am Legend (2007) with Will Smith (which was good, but lacking the desolation and despair of the Price original).

12 Angry Men (1957) - another classic, with Henry Fonda and Lee J. Cobb leading an all star cast. I have seen this one multiple times. It's a very good analysis of how the jury process should go.

Touch of Evil (1958) - Classic Orson Welles film with Charlton Heston. Considered to be film noir and very stylishly done. The opening scene is considered the best long shot in film history. It is considered a tutorial for many film makers and film buffs including the makers of "In Bruges", in which one of the characters is seen watching the opening scene.

Double Indemnity (1944) - great early film noir about an insurance scam, starring Fred MacMurray and Barbara Stanwyck.

Thomas Crown Affair (1968) Steve McQueen classic, with Faye Dunaway as an insurance investigator and Steve McQueen as a millionaire bank robber who is one step ahead of her, until he falls for her.

The Guns of Navarone (1961) - Good World War II action film. I think the two best World War II action films are Bridge Over the River Kwai (1957) and The Great Escape (1963).

The Third Man (1949) - Orson Welles classic is arguably the greatest film noir of all time. It is a murder mystery that mostly focuses on the black markets that emerge in post World War II Vienna.

This is not a complete list.
 

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No, i'm talking about the second trilogy that started with Once Upon a time in the west. The other ones are Fistfull of Dynamite witch is also called Duck, you sucker starring James Coburn and Rod Steiger. The french version is call: Il était une fois la révolution. I saw that it is rank #31 on The Rotten Tomatoes.
The last movie is Once upon a time in America starring Robert Deniro, Joe Pesci and James Wood. They're not western movies but still part of a Sergio Leone's triology.

Yes,

I've never seen the Coburn and Steiger film, but I have seen "Once Upon A Time In America" several times. It's a great film, but generally dark and bittersweet.

One film I love is the 1973 version of "The Three Musketeers" with a great cast that includes Oliver Reed, Charlton Heston, Raquel Welch, Faye Dunaway, Richard Chamberlain, Frank Finlay, Michael York, Christopher Lee. It runs between almost a Mel Brooks comedy and deadly adventure in political intrgue. The actors made the film unaware that they were also making the sequel "The Four Musketeers", which it seems the director and producer failed to tell them, and they were only paid for one film having to fight to be paid for the second. I'm not sure if they ever were paid separately for the latter.

Of course I love historically based epics.

The storyline of "The Fall of the Roman Empire" 1964 with Sophia Loren, Stephen Boyd, Alec Guinness, James Mason, Christopher Plummer, Mel Ferrer, Omar Sharif is the basis of the much later "Gladiator" with much more emphasis on the decadence and intrigue of Roman politics than Gladiator with all of it's superman-like arena fights. I thought Christopher Plummer was excellent as the megalomaniac Emperor Commodus, outshining Joaquin Phoenix in the role.

"Lawrence of Arabia 1962" is definitely one of the best films ever made. it's bewildering how Peter O'Toole did not win Best Actor versus Gregory Peck in the excellent "To Kill A Mockingbird", though I like both.

I've seen both the 1925 silent version and the 1959 version of "Ben Hur". Of course it's hard to make a comparison without bias on the technical differences, but each has it's own priceless screen qualities. No one can every forget the sea battle or chariot race, but the storyline is equally unforgettable. Some may know the original story was written by General Lew Wallace who was one of the Union heros of the deadly Battle of Shiloh/Pittsburg Landing 1862 in the American Civil War.

Ahhhhh, there's so much more.


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Speaking of the Roman Empire, Caligula (1979) is quite unique as a historical epic hardcore porn. Not a great movie overall, but certainly a must see (the lesbian scene is pretty hot if I remember). I wish more ''real'' movies would depict explicit sex. I liked the performance of Malcolm McDowell as Caligula. It's the same actor who aslo plays Alex in A Clockwork Orange, more disturbing and a much better movie.
 

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The Party

Really funny comedy directed by Blake Edward starring Peter Seller as a naive Indian actor who's wrongfully invited at a huge party in a Hollywood mansion.
 

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Some great movies by Woody Allen:

Love and Death (1975) A hillarious parody of War and Peace.
-Sex without love is an empty experience.
-Yes but as empty experiences go, it's probably one of the best.

Zelig (1983) A black-and-white fake documentary about a chameleon guy who has no personnality and will act and look like whoever he is with.

Mighty Aphrodite (1995). A great performance by Mira Sorvino who plays a not-too bright escort.

And from Peter Jackson, before he became Mr Lord of the Rings: Meet the Feebles (1989) a spoof of the muppets, with a bunch of vulgar, sick and twisted puppets.
 

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Zelig (1983) A black-and-white fake documentary about a chameleon guy who has no personnality and will act and look like whoever he is with.

Zelig was amazing. If not for the absurdity of some situations, and recognizing Woody Allen, you could believe this was a real documentary.
 
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