Concerning question...the ladies become "Sloppy seconds?"

[best635]

Hi folks,

I'm new here -- but not new to the hobby. However, I have not used Agencies much, almost always Independents (where this is not much of this issue).

My concern about Agency girls is .... doesn't the lady get very tired & "used up" as they see their different clients throughout any given evening?

I would imagine it is so much better (and so critical!) to see her as soon as she starts her day, i.e. be her first one.

How can any lady provide quality service at say, the 4th or 5th client??
How can she even be physically "into it" by the time she see's you?

Your thoughts are much appreciated.

 

[bond_james_bond]

It's true that if you're the first of the day for her, you stand a good chance of getting the best of her. And odds are that if you're the last, she'll be understandably tired.

But there are plenty of factors that don't make this always true.

If you're the first, maybe she needs to be warmed up, so the 2nd or 3rd gets her best. If you're the first and she knows she has another appt afterwards, she may rush through. If you're the last, she might stay a little longer if you guys hit it off.

And even if you're the first, there still may be no chemistry at all. She might be having a bad day, or she might not like you.

There is still an element of mystery and chemistry to this, so none of these rules are written in stone.

 

[HonestAbe]

Although more from the perspective that she hasn't been touched yet that day so she won't have anything fresh on her from someone else. If she already has something (medically speaking) then it doesn't really matter when you see her. Personally I just don't care for DATY, or DFK, at the end of a girls shift whether she showers and brushes her teeth in between or not. Thats just me though, some may prefer that, too each his own.

 

[Penelope]

Personally I just don't care for DATY, or DFK, at the end of a girls shift whether she showers and brushes her teeth in between or not.

Actually, brushing teeth is not a good Idea: it increases chances of catching something by making small bruises in the mouth...

 

[best635]

Okay, what you guys illustrated makes total sense, as I suspected in the back of my mind.

I think just for the little peace of mind angle, I will look to book a "first appointment" girl rather than wait too long in the evening.

Generally speaking, are the Agencies honest in letting you know which about the girls' starting times, i.e. what time would their first appointment be?

 

[EagerBeaver]

I think there is a grain of truth to what SA says. Recently I was shocked that I was able to book a lady as high quality as Thalia on a half hour's notice. While there are a few very popular escorts who will book up entirely on Friday and Saturday nights, I think there is a very high level of competition in Montreal and the "sloppy seconds" phenomenon is not as common as one would think. For certain very popular ladies on a Friday or Saturday night, yes I would not want to be the guy who sees her at 2:00 a.m. But I generally tend to agree with SA that it is less common than believed for outcall in Montreal.

For girls who are touring, different story altogether. But what we are talking about is Montreal outcall escorts.

 

[Mike Mercury]

doesn't the lady get very tired & "used up" as they see their different clients throughout any given evening?

How can any lady provide quality service at say, the 4th or 5th client??
How can she even be physically "into it" by the time she see's you?

Yes she does. Its worse if she is busy but even a light day can tire her.

No she can't. Her mouth, tits and pussy can be sore or chaffed.


But as some guys here said. Many girls may only see one or two guys a shift. It depends if she is known and there are busy seasons & busy hours.

 

[Regular Guy]

Reality!

As for the main topic... Being a woman (and one who loves sex too), I can hardly understand how a girl could be really into it after seing 3-4-5 men the same day.

Well barring the extenuating circumstances mentioned, Elizabeth called it. I suppose you pay your dues, learn the ropes and optimize your experience as best you can (Translation: Call for early times and pray to the powers that be that you are the first.) Odd that no one mentioned the stress of dealing with different personalities in one evening on such an intimate basis. The experience has a quality of intensity (sexual tension) to it or should have. Without it the whole affair is reduced to the ridiculous spectacle as described by one merbite which had the (incall) sp watching cartoons oblivious to the passion he was attempting to engender in her. As I recall he was totally put off by the whole thing. I can see that scenario unfolding for numbers 3-4-5. We all want bang for our buck (no pun intended.)

 

[Regular Guy]

Right!

Don't let him get away with that one Elizabeth.lol

 

[Regular Guy]

Money

If any of you subscribe to SEXTV (satellite, cable) then look for a little number called California Escorts. Focuses on mostly one escort. Part of the interview she conducted showed her covered in the currency of the realm. At least she was up front about it. Her clients were simply money and gift providers. She called them nasties in business but wimps, complainers and whiners in private. Perhaps that is the true raw side of this business dare I say, the reality? Now in all fairness perhaps this is an American thing and it seems this escort deals with the sharks of the Wall Street money reef and some of that may have rubbed off on her. If that is true then they deserve each other. Like in anything, though, there are exceptions. IMHO finding the escort who truly shares a bit of herself is like finding gold. In real terms though she may be one of the first to burn out. SP's are human. Can't help remembering what one merbite said: "We'd probably all be shocked by what they say about us in the van on a working night." May be a lot of truth to that statement. Now I am only bringing this up to illustrate that many may be coming to their late night meetings a little less "Hot to Trot" than the average client believes. When you are tired, motivation becomes the deciding factor as to the success of an encounter.

 

[Regular Guy]

Life is real

For some, it's a lot more disturbed than a rational pursuit of profit or self-actualisation

That's when the sparks fly on this board. lol

My take on things is pretty simple: if you like your job, do it well and enjoy yourself, recognising that no situation is perfect. If you don't like your job, then fuck off and find something else to do, because you won't be productive and you'll be pissing off the other people you work with.

Be great to make this the standard for this hobby and this board.

 

[Penelope]

if you like your hobby, do it well and enjoy yourself, recognising that no situation is perfect. If you don't like your hobby, then fuck off and find something else to do, because you won't be productive and you'll be pissing off the other people you hobby with.

 

[surferboy]

Just enjoy your time with the sp guys.It's their job to create a fantasy for you.Whether they love sex or not,they are not there for fun.If by chance you guys have a great connection,you are one in a million.And even then,trust me,it's too complicated.


The girls often get in their cars after and laugh about the experience.I'm not being rude,I'm just telling you what some tell me.It's their job,how they make their living.If they are smart,they can make a lot of money off you.


The more you think about the whole situation,and if this girl really and truly likes you,or if she really just had an orgasm,the more you will ruin it for yourself.Just enjoy it for what it's worth.I've dated a few sp's and it was hell.I might call an agency every blue moon when I'm in town,but I now treat it simply as a sexual experience and a release before bed.I want nothing more from it.maybe that's just me.

 

[surferboy]

But to reply to this topic,I would definetly try and be their first call of the night.I can't picture being anything else.I've had long crazy sex sessions where we're still going at it when the driver calls and he is downstairs waiting,and the girl has to jump up,sweating like she just finshed a tai bo class,and dosen't even take a shower!Just cleans herself with an antibacterial cloth,a piece of gum and she is on her way.That is nasty if you are the next guy.And these are girls at popular agencies that we all love.they are human.

 

[Regular Guy]

Now the reality

But to reply to this topic,I would definetly try and be their first call of the night.I can't picture being anything else.I've had long crazy sex sessions where we're still going at it when the driver calls and he is downstairs waiting,and the girl has to jump up,sweating like she just finshed a tai bo class,and dosen't even take a shower!Just cleans herself with an antibacterial cloth,a piece of gum and she is on her way.That is nasty if you are the next guy.And these are girls at popular agencies that we all love.they are human.

There's a scary thought for the next guy who has the fantasy of kissing a well shaped neck or breast. He is not tasting her body chemistry but that last guy who enjoyed her. Do I hear eeeeuuuuhhh! Now that has all the sex appeal of the last episode of CSI. Kinda gives one pause..............!

 

[surferboy]

surferboy,

What you're describing is perfectly reasonable but must you absolutely include everyone in the same basket? The depiction you are making of cold hearted money-grabbing providers is old news, regardless to what extent it applies to reality. No one is born yesterday, FYI.

The money dealings and the emphasis put on seduction don't necessarly exclude the possibility for an SP to actually enjoy her time with clients.

you are 100% right Ziggy.I don't want to say everyone,as I'm sure there are many who actually enjoy some encounters.That being said,$$ is the #1 thing pushing these girls.



Elizabeth,I'm glad you enjoy your job.#1 you're probably an indy,and #2- if you tell me that $$ is not the main reason you sp then you're lying

 

[korbel]

Just enjoy your time with the sp guys.It's their job to create a fantasy for you.Whether they love sex or not,they are not there for fun.If by chance you guys have a great connection,you are one in a million.And even then,trust me,it's too complicated.


The girls often get in their cars after and laugh about the experience.I'm not being rude,I'm just telling you what some tell me.It's their job,how they make their living.If they are smart,they can make a lot of money off you.


The more you think about the whole situation,and if this girl really and truly likes you,or if she really just had an orgasm,the more you will ruin it for yourself.Just enjoy it for what it's worth.I've dated a few sp's and it was hell.I might call an agency every blue moon when I'm in town,but I now treat it simply as a sexual experience and a release before bed.I want nothing more from it.maybe that's just me.

Hello All,

Surferboy, generally your depiction of how the ladies view the hobby is fairly accurate in my opinion. No doubt many ladies are mercenary and find clients foolish, to use a more gentle word. But to preclude the possibility that some just enjoy a this kind of life is as unrealistic as hobbyists who may dream of something real coming out of the hobby. Some SPs like Marie-Eve of Asservissante, Lily of FKS, and more often independent ladies like Miss Samantha and Neeshakiss who have a lot of control over who they see, can't possibly gather such universal admiration without having a very large amount of pleasure in what they do though they certainly would have developed enough professional skill in providing the illusion in cases where the client is just not someone they could fake it with otherwise. I just think ladies like Elizabeth are more common than our pessimism wants to admit is possible. I think some ladies just can't be sure sometimes whether they are being "professional" or really having a great time despite their original intent. Just as they may walk away laughing, they can also walk away thinking...you know, I had a great time.

But your general thrust that we should play it safe and start with no illusions, and be vary wary of trying to impose wishful thinking on any experiences is a wise approach. The fact that in the end we always have to lighten our wallets should be the sobering moment of any grand illusions we may have entertained in our minds. But lets not be so darn "realistic" that we can't admit some of these ladies are girls who..."just wanna have fun"...even if they get paid for it.

Regards ladies,

Korbel

 

[surferboy]

You know surferboy, I enjoy my job but it doesn't mean that I would do it for free. Why escorting should be different?

That's my point exactly sir

 

[naughtylady]

Wow, step back for a day or two and look what happens... so much excitement!

I freely admit that I do this for money, the same reason that everybody else here works at their jobs. I also have to say that I enjoy very much being an escort. I had a successful sales career before going in to the sex industry. I have my college diploma and this spring I wil be finished my B.A.

I can aways go back into a more traditional work environment but I have to say that I rather suck c@ck than kiss a$$ any day!


Ronnie,
Naughtylady

 

[surferboy]

Wow, step back for a day or two and look what happens... so much excitement!

I freely admit that I do this for money, the same reason that everybody else here works at their jobs. I also have to say that I enjoy very much being an escort. I had a successful sales career before going in to the sex industry. I have my college diploma and this spring I wil be finished my B.A.

I can aways go back into a more traditional work environment but I have to say that I rather suck c@ck than kiss a$$ any day!


Ronnie,
Naughtylady

quote of the year so far.....

thanks for the grin Ronnie