Coronavirus

[The Nature Boy]

A lot will happen from now until there is a vaccine. Trump severing the USA's ties to the WHO is sending a message to the organization and their accomplice China for trying to cover this all up.

Doubt it, in 2016, it was Mexicans and Central Americans. This year it may be Chinese and those wearing face masks. He will affectionately continue to point out some in his audience as “my African American friend” as he knows he needs their votes

If he wanted to send a message he’d ask for an international collaboration for a full scale investigation into China’s response, but he’s alienated USA from the community

 

[jalimon]

No thanks, Trump has nothing to do with the WHO's and China's cover up attempts.

I was talking about the downfall of the USA.

 

[IamNY]

Doubt it, in 2016, it was Mexicans and Central Americans. This year it may be Chinese and those wearing face masks. He will affectionately continue to point out some in his audience as “my African American friend” as he knows he needs their votes

If he wanted to send a message he’d ask for an international collaboration for a full scale investigation into China’s response, but he’s alienated USA from the community

Not sure what Mexicans, central Americans or African American friends or needed votes have to do with a vaccine and the USA sharing it. If the USA discovers it first the non governmental private company that develops it will sell it to the world and make huge profits. There's no reason to not sell it worldwide.

He is sending a message to the WHO and has continually sent messages to China. You may disagree with the strength or type of message sent, but a message it is nonetheless.

 

[donbusch]

A lot will happen from now until there is a vaccine. Trump severing the USA's ties to the WHO is sending a message to the organization and their accomplice China for trying to cover this all up. Tedros Adhanom should be ashamed of himself and step down. Since a vaccine is at best several months away and I don't see there being an issue with a potential vaccine. Whomever gets the vaccine first will share it with the rest of the world.

Trump was warned about the seriousness of the coronavirus by the US National Center for Medical Intelligence (NCMI) as early as end Nov 2019 but didn’t take it seriously.

Intelligence report warned of coronavirus crisis as early as November: Sources

"Analysts concluded it could be a cataclysmic event," a source said.

abcnews.go.com

Trump is simply making the WHO the scapecoat to cover up his total incompetence in handling the coronavirus pandemic.

The US has one embassy & five consultates in China, one of the consultates is in Wuhan itself!

So, not a single US diplomat in China warned Trump about the coronavirus severity, even after the US consultate in Wuhan was shut down along w/ the entire 11 million people city on 23 Jan 2020?

The WHO has an annual budget of only $2.4 Billion/year. So the world’s only Superpower w/ its Trillion dollar military & intelligence network has to depend on a little international organization to inform it of an out of control biological threat/virus in the world’s biggest country, China?

Dude, the US Intelligence Agencies have an annual budget of at least $57 Billion, probably a lot more undisclosed. So no one in the entire US Intelligence community knew there was a pandemic in the US’s top rival, China?

US allies in Asia like Australia, NZ, Japan, South Korea, Singapore, Taiwan which depend on the US for their security all mobilized to take on the coronavirus by end January 2020 or earlier. So not a single one of them warned their military protector, the US about the coronavirus?

 

[cloudsurf]

I`ve touched on this before and I haven`t changed my thinking on the subject.
If there is wisdom and balance in the Universe as opposed to some supreme being throwing dice....then this pandemic was conceived and preordained at the Big Bang.
In the last hundred years Nature was being challenged and altered in unprecedented ways by the actions of humanity.
Extinction of thousands of species, Loss of habitat in particular the Brazilian " lungs of the world".
Pollution on such a grand scale that there will soon be more plastic than fish in the oceans .
Pollution that makes the air almost unbreathable in some cities. And of course climate change .

Mother Nature`s answer is the corona virus. An almost perfect weapon to alter human activity and bring back some life to nature.

If a viable vaccine is developed in the next few months then the effect will be relatively minor in historical terms but still enough to alter destructive human activity to a small extent.....with a million deaths and the damage to world economies in the Trillions of dollars.
On the other hand there is no guarantee of an effective vaccine.

There of coarse major silver linings. Nature is healing and our grand kids will inherit a changed but better and healthier world.

 

[sene5hos]

I read on another thread that TheGreatwaloo wanted us to open the borders as soon as possible. I didn't answer on this thread, because it was the massage parlors that were involved.

I hope Trudeau will continue his diplomatic work with Trump, and keep the borders closed after June 21.

Because in the United States with all the racial demonstrations, COVID-19 may continue to spread, and several Americans will want to leave the United States, and the attitude of the president has nothing to calm the things.

EUREKA says Donald, I'm going to watch out for black people, I need their votes

 

[IamNY]

Donbusch your reply to my quote has nothing to do with what I said. Just more of your conspiracy theories and rhetoric.

Sene5hos I still stand by wanting to opening the borders. I mean really, people will want to leave the US now because of its current turmoil? Please, and you think it will cause a spike in the coronavirus? Also, let’s make this perfectly clear, these are not “racial demonstrations” as so many of the Trump haters try to say. It’s looting and crime, plain and simple. Nothing wrong with a PEACEFUL demonstration. But I’m sure that doesn’t include setting buildings ablaze, looting stores and trying to injure the police. The demonstrators at the Michigan capital building with their firearms in towdid it PEACEFULLY. Not a single person was injured during their protest.

 

[jalimon]

Greatwalooo you do not get it at all. What lead to this chaos?

If Trump was a great president he would have calm things down instead of infuriating everyone a little more.

Ho by the way Sene is absolutely rigth such manifestation will lead to a lot of spread of the virus yes. We know now such grouping of people is the worst for contagion.

 

[donbusch]

Waloo,

U write so much crap that u cannot even remember writing, “Trump severing the USA's ties to the WHO is sending a message to the organization and their accomplice China for trying to cover this all up.”

The WHO did not cover up the coronavirus, I merely pointed out that it was yr Orange King that ignored all the dire warnings about the coronavirus & is now trying to scapegoat the WHO.

Btw, keep dreaming abt the vaccine being ready in a few months. Stop drinking bleach at the behest of yr Orange King, it’s bad for yr brain.

 

[IamNY]

Greatwalooo you do not get it at all. What lead to this chaos?

If Trump was a great president he would have calm things down instead of infuriating everyone a little more.

Ho by the way Sene is absolutely rigth such manifestation will lead to a lot of spread of the virus yes. We know now such grouping of people is the worst for contagion.

I do get it and I know I’ll never get a fair shot on this board. Trump had nothing to do with the looters and thugs destroying America. The police officers are hired by their individual states or counties, not the federal government. What those police officers did is criminal and they deserve to go to jail for the rest of their lives.

Most of the looters and thugs were wearing masks so we should be fine according to most CNN polls. In North America the coronavirus numbers are way down. It’s paranoid people like yourself that will fear ever leaving your house. I go out, I wear a mask and the deaths and new cases are continually dropping. Are you going to stay in your home for the rest of your life? C’mon, we all need to move on, slowly, safely, but move on we must stop the fear mongering.

 

[IamNY]

Waloo,

U write so much crap that u cannot even remember writing, “Trump severing the USA's ties to the WHO is sending a message to the organization and their accomplice China for trying to cover this all up.”

The WHO did not cover up the coronavirus, I merely pointed out that it was yr Orange King that ignored all the dire warnings about the coronavirus & is now trying to scapegoat the WHO.

As do you. I wrote about my approval of the USA severing ties with the WHO and how it sends a message to the WHO and China. You felt it necessary to point out what Trump knew or didn't know, but it had nothing to do with my point. I was talking about the WHO and China and how Tedros Adhanom should be ashamed of themselves. So instead of conversing in a mature fashion you decided to throw up a bunch of "how you say" crap to spin your point of view. That's all and well and good, but had nothing to with what I was saying.

We have no orange king, but maybe it is you who needs to drink a little bleach to help you focus.

How WHO Became China’s Coronavirus Accomplice

Beijing is pushing to become a public health superpower—and quickly found a willing international partner.

foreignpolicy.com

 

[The Nature Boy]

Not sure what Mexicans, central Americans or African American friends or needed votes have to do with a vaccine and the USA sharing it. If the USA discovers it first the non governmental private company that develops it will sell it to the world and make huge profits. There's no reason to not sell it worldwide.

He is sending a message to the WHO and has continually sent messages to China. You may disagree with the strength or type of message sent, but a message it is nonetheless.

What it has to do is with the fact that that he’s gonna need someone to make the scape goat to give his base a chubby. Blame it on Chinese, those wearing a mask are “politically correct”, lol. Even his African American friend who he pointed out in that ralley now says he thinks DJT is a tool.

It’s not a message to WHO or China, it’s a way to deflect the incompetence of his leadership

If he really meant biz he woulda gotten an international team into China to see what exactly went down, instead he was on his knees in front of Xi Jinping.

 

[donbusch]

Waloo,

So tell us, what exactly did the WHO cover up if Trump was already given dire warnings abt the coronavirus by US Intelligence in Nov 2019? Plus follow up warnings were issued by US diplomats & allies in January.

Do spare us the pretense of not getting a fair shot on the board or being victimized.Trump has been doing that “poor me” act for the past 3+ years and it’s pathetic.

 

[jalimon]

We have to admit Waloo is pretty much the only Trumpman still writing on the board... All others have gone quite silent. Trump is hard to support intelligently so they left...

These fucking Chinese (well the cpp...) know exactly what they are doing. They have Trump and the US by the balls. Yes they are the main liars (a communist party is by default simply a bunch of liars in pursuit of an ideology). They have a plan, they shut their mouth until absolutely necessary.

Trump is destroying all relationship with other countries, allies or not, and dividing his own country into a chaos. Well done.

 

[IamNY]

Waloo,

So tell us, what exactly did the WHO cover up if Trump was already given dire warnings abt the coronavirus by US Intelligence in Nov 2019? Plus follow up warnings were issued by US diplomats & allies in January.

Do spare us the pretense of not getting a fair shot on the board or being victimized.Trump has been doing that “poor me” act for the past 3+ years and it’s pathetic.

I’m not making it about what Trump did or didn’t do, that’s something you just dont get. I gave an example along with a link on my previous post. Spare us, victimize, Trump, blah blah blah.

And just to be clear, I do support my president, but I never said I was a “Trump supporter“ or that I voted for him. Same thing went for Obama. I criticize my presidents all the time, but that doesn’t mean I don’t support them.

 

[Mod20]

This is not a political thread.

 

[EagerBeaver]

Fauci: vaccine should be widely available in USA by early 2021:

The US should have a "couple hundred million" doses of a Covid-19 vaccine by start of 2021, Fauci says

The US should have 100 million doses of one candidate Covid-19 vaccine by the end of the year, Dr. Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) and a member of the White House coronavirus task force, said Tuesday.

www.cnn.com

This of course assumes that it will actually work....................

 

[sene5hos]

I hope too, there will be a vaccine that works. Even if there should be several vaccines for the effect to be effective.

Whether it's a vaccine or several vaccines, a drug, or in my most wonderful dreams, that this MUTE virus, either that it disappears by itself, or is no longer any effect.

 

[IamNY]

Brazil is really bad shape:

Brazil sets another record for daily coronavirus deaths

Brazil registered another record number of novel coronavirus deaths over the last 24 hours, the health ministry said on Tuesday evening, as the pandemic in Latin America's largest country shows no signs of slowing down.

www.reuters.com

 

[Nutsinho]

Fraudci and Gates...2 evil corrupt big pharma crooks. I wonder how much money they made with their Moderna shares.

Moderna’s Guinea Pig ... “Sickest in His Life" after Being Injected with Experimental Vaccine

Less than 12 hours after vaccination with Moderna’s experimental COVIDE-19 vaccine, Ian Hayden was the sickest he’d ever been in his life. Moderna let him believe the illness was just a sad coincidence unrelated to the jab and encouraged him to appear on TV and declare their COVID vaccine trials...

childrenshealthdefense.org