Coronavirus

[IamNY]

I have been watching Europe to see about borders and they have opened them for intercontinental travel. I thought the US/Canada border would be opening up this month and I would have thought so if it was if it wasn’t for the protests and lootings. My guess now would be August. Canada is loosing mucho coin from American tourists but they are playing it smart by taking it slow.

Europe's borders reopen to on-continent travelers, but countries expect long road for tourism to recover

Many European countries are reopening borders after months of restrictions, but it's still a long road for tourism to recover.

www.google.com

 

[Zaeballo]

I thought the US/Canada border would be opening up this month and I would have thought so if it was if it wasn’t for the protests and lootings. My guess now would be August. Canada is loosing mucho coin from American tourists but they are playing it smart by taking it slow.

Same here. I was (sort of) surprised that they decided to extend the closure, but I think it is for the last time. Although if they keep insisting on a quarantine for all visitors, that will be equally useless as far as tourism is concerned.

 

[The Nature Boy]

Not sure if August will even be in the picture? Hope it does, but doubt it. #’s r goin up boys, not just cases, but hospitalizations? That’s all the shit from the long weekend @ end of May in the states. These protests, riots and Trump rallies are gonna be even worse. Justin’s gonna def impose a 14 day quarantine even on the off chance he lets u in.

 

[RobertNYC]

A 14 day quarantine makes a Montreal visit absolutely useless, as does not being able to venture out to bars and restaurants, or even the casino.

And I wonder about the level of grilling from US Customs on way back into states, including fruitless and silly secondary inspections. Obviously we know how to handle process relative to phones, etc, but one is left to wonder about the hassle.

 

[IamNY]

I could visit McLeans Pub

Miss Kenny during the weekend days for his legendary Bloody Caesar's! Best I've ever had.

 

[RobertNYC]

Love those Caesar’s with Saturday brunch. McLeans is one of my favorite places up there. And Kenny is great to talk to! I always leave there having made new friends.

 

[IamNY]

Very interesting article in the WSJ:

How exactly do you catch COVID-19? There is a growing consensus. — The Wall Street Journal

Surface contamination and fleeting encounters are less of a worry than close-up, person-to-person interactions for extended periods. The emerging scientific findings are helping businesses and governments devise reopening strategies that limit the coronavirus’s spread.

apple.news

 

[2fast2slow]

^^^
unfortunately it is a paid site (at least for me)...maybe you can cut and paste it?

 

[EagerBeaver]

Yeah, I can't read that WSJ article either.

 

[Zaeballo]

Try this:

How Exactly Do You Catch Covid-19? There Is a Growing Consensus

Surface contamination and fleeting encounters are less of a worry than close-up, person-to-person interactions for extended periods. The emerging scientific findings are helping businesses and governments devise reopening strategies that limit the coronavirus’s spread.

www.wsj.com

 

[2fast2slow]

^^^

how did you do that? is that link good for thousands of shares?

 

[Zaeballo]

^ That's classified Never tried for thousands of shares, but I don't see why not.

 

[IamNY]

That’s weird. The Apple news link should bypass the pay function. Guess that's only on an IOS device. I tried to cut and paste but it's to long. Link above should work, thanks Zaeballo.

 

[donbusch]

Canada- U.S. border to remain closed to non-essential travel until July 21, 2020

... I think Trudeau meant to say he needs to protect Canadians from Americans Ironically, more nations will likely bar Americans from entry -- we Americans are radioactive

Yup, sadly that’s the conclusion. The rest of the developed world is horrified at the US coronavirus response and who can blame them? They did what was necessary and got the coronavirus under control. Now, no way they r going to throw all that away for some US tourist dollars; simple cost-benefit analysis.

The coronavirus is picking up serious momentum in the Southwest which has reopened rapidly. Lots of photos on Twitter showing people hanging out in bars there with no masks & little social distancing. Keep an eye on Texas, hospitalizations r rising rapidly but Gov. Greg Abbott’s oddly confident that he has more than enough hospital beds to handle any & all surges. Arizona, Arkansas, Alabama, California, Florida also not looking good.

The Midwest & Northeast r doing relatively well but gotta be careful w/ the reopenings.

 

[The Nature Boy]

I don’t understand people blaming the media for blowing the virus out of proportion? I mean the numbers kinda speak for themselves, lol??? It’s been 3 months, there were less than 500 deaths on March 1st, June 17 there are over 100,000? I’m still not getting how media is tilted in favor of the virus? I can’t stand fox and cnns bullshit half the time but I don’t really see don lemon, Anderson and Chris Cuomo running around infecting peeps?

Here’s another thing I don’t get, and it kinda ties into politics, but still covid related. I totally get someone thinking “ok, if it’s perfectly fine for people to gather, throw a brick into a foot locker and steel adidas shoes, I can certainly go gather and support Trump in Tulsa and if none of the looters are wearing masks I shouldn’t either”. But when this bitch is requiring you to sign a F’ing covid-19 waiver, lol, I can’t comprehend how people would still support him?

 

[ShyMan]

International vacation travels would also be severely hampered by the lack of travel insurance that covers Covid-19 illnesses. As of now, many insurers are excluding coverage for Covid-19 illnesses in their travel products. And if insurers do offer coverage for Covid-19 illnesses, the costs would likely be prohibitive. The majority of the Canadian snowbirders would likely not return to the States (even though they can do so now) until they can obtain travel insurance coverage for Covid-19 illnesses at reasonable costs -- hospital bills could be hundreds of thousands of USD for hospitalizations in any US hospital. Here is what Travel Guard said: "Due to the World Health Organization (WHO) announcement declaring Coronavirus (COVID-19) a pandemic, please note that as of, at the latest, March 11, 2020, COVID-19 is a foreseen event and certain coverages will not apply."

 

[cloudsurf]

By now we all know, or should know , that masks are beneficial in holding back the spread of the CV . Its fukkin logical , yet the US government and most of the medical hierarchy in the States and Canada were initially advising people not to bother wearing them. Fauci admitted that much yesterday.

Why? To preserve the most effective masks for healthcare workers and first responders . The governments had sold their critical supply of masks to the Chinese government back in January, and now were scrambling to make up for it.

Tough decision ….you have a limited supply of vital N95 masks.....do you save it for the nurses and Doctors …..or encourage the population to protect their own health. What would you do? BTW stocking up on toilet paper is not the right answer . The answer is don`t trust the government not to fuck things up for us and kill us in the process..

 

[EagerBeaver]

If you take a look at that map Cloudsurf posted, the entire US northeast is declining except Vermont, which is hard to explain because it is surrounded by states in decline.

I booked an August vacation to Maine, not knowing that Maine has a 14 day quarantine rule in effect. You set foot in that State and your ass is quarantined for 14 days. The hotel told me this order expires on June 24 and I am hoping the quarantine rule is shelved. I can't make a trip to Montreal, so I am hoping Maine will be ready to take my tourist money by then. If the quarantine rule is not shelved by the time of my trip, I will ask the hotel to honor my Priceline booking and give me a credit for some other time.

Have any of you guys had to postpone hotel travel bookings due to Covid 19 and if so did the hotels play ball and give you a credit towards future travel?

I spent over $600 on a 3 night booking, which was a pretty good deal. Got a property right in the Old Port near the water in Portland. The neighorhood is SWANK, it's got 3 of the top 50 rated restaurants in the USA. Outrageous fresh seafood and lobster, the best evah! Not sure there is a better seafood city in the eastern USA- maybe Charleston, SC or Baltimore are in league, but Portland is BIG TIME as a seafood destination......

 

[IamNY]

I had a trip to Italy planned and after a week there I was supposed to hop on a cruise ship for another week. Talk about bad decisions. Lol. My crystal ball clearly wasn’t working and it never warned me against going to Italy and going on a cruise ship! Anyway, the hotel and cruise line initially offered a credit and as the pandemic continued on they ended up giving me a full refund.

EB, in your situation I’m wondering if Maine can really enforce such a rule for anyone especially for non residents. Good luck!

 

[minutemenX]

I spent over $600 on a 3 night booking, which was a pretty good deal. Got a property right in the Old Port near the water in Portland.

Why to stay in the city? Go farther north on I-95 to Acadia National Park and you will be amaized