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IamNY

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US passes the 4 million mark:

 

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What concerns me is that some scientists are now saying that antibodies fade after as little as 3 months.
If immunity lasts only a few months then how effective will be herd immunity or even a potential vaccine.
There is so much more to learn about this no ordinary flu .
One solution may lie in discovering how a bat`s immune system works and protects them against so many varieties of virus
 

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I was watching an interview with Dr. Birx yesterday and she mentioned that all antibodies fade over time. So I'm not so sure it's a new problem or or if it's one that's always been there.

I think this explains it, although it will fade it doesn't necessarily stop protecting you:

 

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The science is encouraging -- our highly evolved bodies will protect us after we train them with the proper vaccines.




Can You Get Covid-19 Again? It’s Very Unlikely, Experts Say
Reports of reinfection instead may be cases of drawn-out illness. A decline in antibodies is normal after a few weeks, and people are protected from the coronavirus in other ways.

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"People infected with the coronavirus typically produce immune molecules called antibodies. Several teams have recently reported that the levels of these antibodies decline in two to three months, causing some consternation. But a drop in antibodies is perfectly normal after an acute infection subsides, said Dr. Michael Mina, an immunologist at Harvard University.

Many clinicians are “scratching their heads saying, ‘What an extraordinarily odd virus that it’s not leading to robust immunity,’ but they’re totally wrong,’” Dr. Mina said. “It doesn’t get more textbook than this.”

Antibodies are not the only form of protection against pathogens. The coronavirus also provokes a vigorous defense from immune cells that can kill the virus and quickly rouse reinforcements for future battles. Less is known about how long these so-called memory T cells persist — those that recognize other coronaviruses may linger for life — but they can buttress defenses against the new coronavirus.

“If those are maintained, and especially if they’re maintained within the lung and the respiratory tract, then I think they can do a pretty good job of stopping an infection from spreading,” said Akiko Iwasaki, an immunologist at Yale University."
 

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Pfizer Vaccine could be available in 2020! And available to United States citizens at no cost. The US government will own the vaccine if it's approved

If Pfizer’s vaccine is available at or around the same time as AstraZeneca’s that would be huge. For 2020, it’s estimated that 100M doses will be available from each manufacturer. And both vaccines seem to elicit antibody and CD8+ T-cell production which is a big positive as well.

They will just need to ensure that antibody dependent enhancement doesn’t occur with the dose they choose to be manufactured or else we’ll have a much bigger problem on our hands.
 

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Because the coronavirus is not controlled in America.

It's official, there will be no F1

So a lot of lost clients for our agencies.
It's not known exactly what the% of lost customers will be.
 

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Don’t tell me you didn’t see that coming?

Fifa was supposed to have the euro cup this year
 

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Because the coronavirus is not controlled in America.It's official, there will be no F1

You can't blame this on us. Borders are closed. The Blue Jays aren't being allowed to play in Canada, yes, but F1 is just a bunch of Eurodudes. Americans don't do F1, it's a strictly Eurodude and Canadian sport. Americans do NASCAR.
 
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It is because the coronavirus is not completely controlled worldwide including in Quebec.
This is still not the time to have thousands in the stands and at bars for a week of uncontrolled mayhem that will result in hundreds of deaths afterwards.
It is good that both Canadians and Eurodudes are smart enough to recognize that.
 

sene5hos

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2 races in North America. One in Canada and the other in the USA
2 races in South America, One in Mexico and the other in Brazil.

The committee said seeing that the USA, Brazil and Mexico are very dangerous countries for the teams, there is no way they will participate this year.
He would have come to Canada only, because he considers that the management of the pandemic is better controlled. But again, without public, not enough money to be made.
 

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Americans still come up for F1. I met tons of Americans who have no idea what they are watching and who anyone is. Americans who just come up during F1 because MTL is hoppin during that weekend.

On a side note, contrary to popular belief F1 weekend is a great time to come to MTL to monger.

Also, maybe they just cancelled it as a public health concern for MTL itself and independent of America, lol
 

sene5hos

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You are a little joker.

The last time the event was held in Canada was in June 2019, there was no Coronavirus.

Yes it's more the fault of the USA, that it is mine or that of Canada.
 

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Yes it's more the fault of the USA, that it is mine or that of Canada

Joke is on you. The US has successfully had NASCAR, PGA golf, UFC, MLB, and soon to be the NBA. Just because Canada doesn’t want to be troubled with the logistics of hosting the F1 event (along with their only Canadian baseball team) it can’t be put on the USA. Border is still locked down so using the USA as an excuse is weak.
 

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You guys are behaving as if the Montreal Grand Prix is the greatest loss to the rest of the world in the Montreal summer, when in reality, to any reasonably cultured person, it's the Montreal Jazz Festival. I went to the Montreal Jazz Festival every year from 2003 to 2015 or 2016. Some of my highlights:

2004 or 2005- Quebec top winning High School Jazz Band delivers stunning rendition of Hawaii 5-0 Theme Song to a wild ovation. Almost brought tears to my eyes.
2006- Paul Simon and his South African band warming up with free concert on main stage- amazing
2009- Stevie Wonder- free concert on main stage. I heard it- never got close enough to the stage to see it. Largest crowd I ever saw- horrible and disorganized crowd control by Montreal police
2011- Disco band Escort does Donna Summer tribute via a bilingual, biracial lead singer who was amazing and she razzed the crowd by speaking French to them.
2012- got some Toronto guys buying me free drinks at the Keg because they discovered I was an American baseball fan and they were huge Toronto Blue Jays fans. They all wore suits, in the financial sector for official business meetings. We drank all afternoon, then they caught a train to Toronto at 6 pm and left me more shitfaced than at any time in the last 20 years.
 
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That jazz festival is awesome. I remember I met these Filipino nurses and got fucked up @ some casino and got thrown out cause we kept callin our black jack table dealer Ayatollah every time we bust cause he wore a turban. I ended up @ their place that night and they let me sleep over and sobered me up the next day in time to meet Sasha Jo/Hannah @ that time, good memories, can’t wait for that f’in vaccine or whatever it is that will
Bring us back to normal!

 
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Americans still come up for F1. I met tons of Americans who have no idea what they are watching and who anyone is. Americans who just come up during F1 because MTL is hoppin during that weekend.

I agree with this statement, because some of the guys I brought to mini parties in Montreal fell into this category. They were not even car racing fans really, but to them, the F1 race was a "spectacle", and it provided an event backdrop to a weekend of escorts, bar hopping, and cigars at the cigar bar. I probably knew more than them about F1, and I know shit. The serious fans of this sport are all Eurodudes.

You see this phenomenon in New York City sports bars with soccer. I remember going into a Sports Bar on Spring Street to catch the UConn-Wichita State game in the Maui Classic in December 2010 (UConn won the NCAA championship later that season). I got them to put one of the big screen TVs on the game. Later on, at the bar, a group of Eurodudes invaded the bar and took it over to watch Premiere League soccer. They were all rowdy UK guys, I never even knew so many of them existed, and the good news is only 1 goal got scored in the game they were watching but when it was, the whole bar was so loud with screaming I thought my ear drums would shatter.

A buddy of mine, an American who lives in NYC, was at the same bar during the summer, and almost got into a physical fight with 2 English guys at the same bar when they thought the Yankees game should be switched off for some second league soccer game in England. Apparently he chided them that their team wasn't even good enough to be in the Premier League, and his comments on that were not well received. Later on he called me, pissed, saying "this is New York fucking city and we do NOT Turn off the NY Yankees to watch some bullshit second league soccer game for a couple of Eurofuckers when their team was also losing." He was seething.

Biggest loss to Covid in Montreal: Jazz Festival.
 
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