Coronavirus

[IamNY]

$6,000 fine for going to a gym, bar, or restaurant? In NY the most we get fined for this is $500, but we aren’t in lockdown anymore.

Coronavirus updates, Oct. 28: Quebecers could face $6,000 fines for being in red-zone gyms, bars, dining rooms

Hospitalizations drop again as Quebec reports 929 cases, 17 deaths.

montrealgazette.com

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

Well, France just did another full lockdown

 

[jeff teliska]

Meanwhile , Taiwan's last COVID case was 200 days ago, on April 12th.
Population of 24 million.
A total of 553 cases and 7 deaths since the pandemic started.
Impressive.

 

[sene5hos]

This is a frightening new world in terms of privacy and the ability to live one‘s life.

I agree, it's for this reason that I receive at home. These days it's a privilege that I allow myself.

I take care, so I put some restrictions on myself, which my lover respects.

 

[sene5hos]

Meanwhile , Taiwan's last COVID case was 200 days ago, on April 12th.
Population of 24 million.
A total of 553 cases and 7 deaths since the pandemic started.
Impressive.

Thank Jeff Teliska, for your sympathy.

Which proves that the pandemic is well managed, it works.

 

[fromtheoutside]

Thank Jeff Teliska, for your sympathy.

Which proves that the pandemic is well managed, it works.

I agree, but why stop there. Look at Burundi. It only has one death and a death/million rate of only 0.08. I mean, Taiwan, Burundi and the US are practically identical in most ways, like population, density distribution, economics, politics, culture, etc. Trump or Biden, if he wins, should make it a priority of getting their covid response playbooks implemented here right away.

 

[fromtheoutside]

I agree, it's for this reason that I receive at home. These days it's a privilege that I allow myself.

I'm glad you and others are able to reconcile and come to peace with where you draw your own personal line, and why it's ok, yet criticize what others do and how they behave.

 

[Womaniser]

The 2 competent scientists in the Covid Task Force have been put away and replaced by an ignorant clown.
If reelected, Trump will make illegal Covid Tests to prove his affirmation that the pandemic has disappeared.

 

[Zaeballo]

The 2 competent scientists in the Covid Task Force have been put away and replaced by an ignorant clown.

Ignorant indeed. Practically illiterate.

Scott W. Atlas' Profile | Stanford Profiles

Scott W. Atlas is part of Stanford Profiles, official site for faculty, postdocs, students and staff information (Expertise, Bio, Research, Publications, and more). The site facilitates research and collaboration in academic endeavors.

profiles.stanford.edu

 

[The Nature Boy]

From his co-workers

Open Letter from Stanford University regarding Dr. Scott Atlas – Pediatric Infectious Diseases Society

pids.org

 

[Zaeballo]

Right.

Cancel Culture Comes to Medicine | National Review

Dr. Scott Atlas is under attack from former Stanford colleagues for joining the Trump administration’s COVID task force.

www.nationalreview.com

 

[The Nature Boy]

It’s an open letter from Stanford university sounds like it has the universities backing

 

[The Nature Boy]

Not endorsing it, just saying Stanford University is in support of its staff that wrote that letter because there’s a consensus he is giving incorrect info . Your citing something that’s saying he is being attacked because he joined team trump.

 

[Zaeballo]

I am citing something that's saying he is being attacked for having the chutzpah to entertain his own opinion.

But it is the letter writers’ unwillingness to brook different points of view that is most troubling. The academy is supposed to encourage and tolerate vigorous debate, not end it with mob condemnation.

And that is, by the way, exactly how things used to work in the Soviet Union and probably still do in today's China.

 

[The Nature Boy]

He’s got a huge platform. He’s using it, but like your saying as he states his case, a university is backing their scholars who are saying he knows nothing of what he is talking about. Their point is, there is no debate.

It’s like debating this dude

https://twitter.com/x/status/1321920094574940161

 

[Theresa April]

Interesting discussion. A couple of points.

1. The assertions made in the earlier comments can not be further from the truth. That open letter is not from Stanford University and it does not have the university's backing. On the contrary, its authors got reprimanded for making it appear like it has.

Provost Persis Drell and Faculty Senate Chair Judith Goldstein sent an email to Stanford faculty the following week on Sept. 14, reprimanding authors of the open letter:

“In the last week, we saw an inappropriate use of our official academic council email list,” they wrote. “A letter from some medical school faculty was written and signed consistent with the freedom of faculty to voice their opinions. However, the letter was distributed to all members of the academic council using a University email list and this was not consistent with policy.”

Faculty Senate debates University criticism of open letter about Scott Atlas, votes to approve changes to Title IX procedures

Members of the Faculty Senate expressed disappointment in the University’s pushback against open letter criticizing White House advisor and Hoover Institution senior fellow Scott Atlas, as well as federally mandated changes to Title IX procedures, which disincentivize the reporting of sexual...

www.stanforddaily.com

2. The letter itself is curiously devoid of any actual substance. It purports to "call attention to the falsehoods and misrepresentations of science recently fostered by Dr. Scott Atlas", but somehow fails to mention a single specific falsehood or misrepresentation fostered by Dr. Atlas. This author provides a detailed treatment of that remarkable piece of shit writing:

Atlas agonistes

johnhcochrane.blogspot.com

For a bunch of doctors, they write amazingly well. They artfully slime a colleague and leave a trail of accusation in the air without actually textually making disprovable statements.

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To her credit, our Provost responded that the signatory's use of an internal list-serv to distribute a political email is completely inappropriate. By doing so, she recognizes that this is what it is, a political email, not an "ethical obligation."

Thank you for posting the link to the letter, quite an educational exercise.

 

[The Nature Boy]

“ In response, Goldstein acknowledged at the meeting that “almost everyone is sympathetic with the letter, but the problem of using listserv was one of precedent.”

 

[Womaniser]

Ignorant indeed. Practically illiterate.

Scott W. Atlas' Profile | Stanford Profiles

Scott W. Atlas is part of Stanford Profiles, official site for faculty, postdocs, students and staff information (Expertise, Bio, Research, Publications, and more). The site facilitates research and collaboration in academic endeavors.

profiles.stanford.edu

Dr Atlas is a Radiologist.
What competence does he have in pandemy or microbiology ?
I am a civil engineer but would not work as a mechanical or electric engineer !

 

[sene5hos]

Dr Atlas is a Radiologist.
What competence does he have in pandemy or microbiology ?
I am a civil engineer but would not work as a mechanical or electric engineer !

What a great example.

I was specialized in interlukins, I would never work in vaccinology, because I don't have the skills.

 

[fromtheoutside]

Dr Atlas is a Radiologist.
What competence does he have in pandemy or microbiology ?
I am a civil engineer but would not work as a mechanical or electric engineer !

I wouldn't want you to work as mechanical or electrical engineer either, however, I would think that as a civil engineer, you would be qualified to oversee an engineering firm in general. Visionary leaders can succeed and serve as agents of change without necessarily having industry-specific experience. At times, this even helps to get an organization (or in this case a government) out of a rut. Perhaps this is the intent with Atlas. Leaders without specific industry experience can be surrounded by experts who can fill any gaps.

Remember, scientists are usually kept locked away in basements to develop their trade, at which point it handed over to company CEO's to decide how to move forward with it. The main reason, they have vision for the WHOLE picture, that scientists generally lack.

Fauci, like many here, dismiss the considerable and widespread tragedy that has become the biproduct of the current narrow minded approach to this pandemic.