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Hundreds of millions of deaths is a bit off target, but don`t be surprised by 30 to 40 million world wide by the end of winter. Don`t forget the Spanish flu came in 3 stages over 2 years .
30-40 million deaths world wide by the end of the winter cloudy?? Where r u getting that # from? Or did I misread?
 

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Hundreds of millions of deaths is a bit off target, but don`t be surprised by 30 to 40 million world wide by the end of winter.

Let's see 30-40 million deaths.
655,000 dead and lots of countries in recession, I can't imagine with 30-40 million.

We are no longer in 1918, science is very advanced.
Cloudsurf, do you have the good stuff that you smoked? I will take some !!
 
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The Nature Boy

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Did the U.K. get Covid-19 under control or eliminated entirely?

There is one cute brunette lady standing by a cop who has a mask on, but I am having trouble finding mask wearers or social distances in these photos.


If you want to tickle my gonads, by all means, just ask.

Beaches in England suck. Those crowds should be dispersed just based on that notion and nothing else

It’s same shit as what’s goin down in jersey in USA with the house parties and boat parties in LI

U.K. is not without problems, and i must say Trump is not one of them


I was able to search google and cherry pick this one as well



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Think everyone made interesting points about coronavirus deaths. Medical technology is far more advanced than during the Spanish Flu.

On the flip side, the world population during Spanish Flu (1918-1920) was abt 1.7 Billion vs 7.5 Billion now with much of today’s population in developing, 3rd world countries where income inequality is huge and the poor over there receiving only marginally better medical care than in 1918-1920.

Take India, Indonesia & Pakistan for example; Coronavirus situation is really really bad over there. If the poor in those countries don’t work, they don’t even have money to eat so social distancing is not an option. Even the local media doesn’t cover the dire situation because what’s the point? Not going to change anything except make the police crackdown harder on the poor or scare away much needed foreign tourists & investors. Corruption & incompetence r so entrenched in their governments that a change of political leadership just means paying the same bribes to a different person.

But the healthcare systems haven’t collapsed in these countries simply because the admission price to enter a hospital increases, the greater the demand. A distopian version of free market economics. It’s a fact of life there, that if u r critically ill & don’t have the money to be admitted to a hospital, u just go home to die. Unlikely that those governments count these deaths.

So the combined present-day population of just India, Indonesia, Pakistan alone is about 1.7 Billion, roughly the same as the world population during Spanish Flu (1918-1920). So do the math and it’ll be apparent that unreported coronavirus deaths worldwide are already in the millions & Africa hasn’t really been hit that hard yet. Tens of millions seems like & will hopefully be an overestimate but regardless, at the end of all this, the eventual coronavirus death toll will be a shocking number to all.
 
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To determine the death rate of a disease, why would you do anything other than divide the number of deaths by the number of people who have been infected with the disease?
 

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Think everyone made interesting points about coronavirus deaths. Medical technology is far more advanced than during the Spanish Flu.

On the flip side, the world population during Spanish Flu (1918-1920) was abt 1.7 Billion vs 7.5 Billion now with much of today’s population in developing, 3rd world countries where income inequality is huge and the poor over there receiving only marginally better medical care than in 1918-1920.

Take India, Indonesia & Pakistan for example; Coronavirus situation is really really bad over there. If the poor in those countries don’t work, they don’t even have money to eat so social distancing is not an option. Even the local media doesn’t cover the dire situation because what’s the point? Not going to change anything except make the police crackdown harder on the poor or scare away much needed foreign tourists & investors. Corruption & incompetence r so entrenched in their governments that a change of political leadership just means paying the same bribes to a different person.

But the healthcare systems haven’t collapsed in these countries simply because the admission price to enter a hospital increases, the greater the demand. A distopian version of free market economics. It’s a fact of life there, that if u r critically ill & don’t have the money to be admitted to a hospital, u just go home to die. Unlikely that those governments count these deaths.

So the combined present-day population of just India, Indonesia, Pakistan alone is about 1.7 Billion, roughly the same as the world population during Spanish Flu (1918-1920). So do the math and it’ll be apparent that unreported coronavirus deaths worldwide are already in the millions & Africa hasn’t really been hit that hard yet. Tens of millions seems like & will hopefully be an overestimate but regardless, at the end of all this, the eventual coronavirus death toll will be a shocking number to all.

I had never seen it from that angle.
Thank you for making me realize this whole problem.
 
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To determine the death rate of a disease, why would you do anything other than divide the number of deaths by the number of people who have been infected with the disease?
because you will never know how many were actually infected with the disease seeing as many don’t show any symptoms or very mild ones which will not get reported and it is highly dependent on how much testing you do.
A country that does millions upon millions of tests will likely have a lower death rate.

For me it is much more realistic to know how many people die per million of population, even that is not totally accurate as some deaths that aren’t covid cases may be recorded as such as well as some that are will be assessed to other causes.
This however will show more realistically if that country is keeping things relatively under control.
 
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why should we go back in time? We should move forward, not back. We were still dealing with H1N1 in 2011. Covid hadn't been created yet.
LOL....going back in time is quite an accomplishment that is only doable with a typo. Sorry, I meant March 2021
 

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Yes I agree its a lot...its huge and almost un-imaginable.
Yet remember that the numbers to-day , both of covid and the economy, were un-imaginable by most, 6 months ago.
Yes its a worse case scenario based on how dumb and self destructive some Homo-Sapiens are.
Best way to join the statistics is to refuse to wear a mask and attend crowded gatherings.
 

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Because of the coronavirus which resurfaces in several countries, they are reconfining.

I think that's the only thing that can save the US, reconfine the whole country.
 
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I wanted to give you guys an update on Covid testing. I posted earlier in this thread that I had the noninvasive Covid test done on June 29 and was tested negative. Results were back in a little over 8 hours. I am advised that the non invasive test now has become standardized and rapid results can be obtained in 20 minutes. My ladyfriend and I decided we are going to go and get tested later this week. There is a place locally that does it on a walk in basis and I texted them today and they confirmed they do the noninvasive test. She just got back from a trip with her GF to California, and we will be leaving for a trip to Maine soon.

I must caution that the non invasive test tickles. Swab is swirled around the walls of both of your nostrils in a rapid clockwise motion - it's like the motion with which you would stir a drink with a stirrer. It does tickle a bit. Anyway we are to get tested together. Hopefully we are both negative or there will not be any sex. And I want and need some sex because I haven't had any since March 5. We actually already discussed having sex once we get the results back.
 

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How the hell is North Korea beginning end stage trials on a covid vaccine when no one in their country has it???

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Cruises are back along with Covid-19 outbreaks onboard ships in Italy, Norway & Tahiti. They must really like going for cruises :eek:

 
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