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Exploring Terminology: Is service Providers' a More Polite Term than 'Prostitute'?

Which term do you believe is more polite and respectful?

  • Service Providers

    Votes: 21 34.4%
  • Prostitute

    Votes: 3 4.9%
  • Sex worker

    Votes: 10 16.4%
  • It's a matter of personal preference

    Votes: 6 9.8%
  • Other

    Votes: 2 3.3%
  • Escort

    Votes: 19 31.1%

  • Total voters
    61

Anna Bijou

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Honestly i have generally attributed prostitute as a derogatory term, almost akin to whore.. (it makes me think of the crackhead streetwalker looking for her next fix)
Even when i was younger i saw Escort as a higher class term, (it makes me think of a sexy well-rounded lady, even if she is paid for, being the arm candy and presentable to show off as your date to an event)
Service provider is a good way to cover what the job is called because technically a bus driver is a service provider too . Along with many other jobs concidered as a public service. But is a good way to be discreet in telling someone what you so for a living.. (I should probly be useing that term more often for others discretion)

Totally makes sense to use the term that you feel most comfortable with. Will also depends who you are talking to.

The term whore is used by a lot of sex workers referring to themselves, including myself - in specific circumstances. But it's never acceptable for anyone else to use is, especially if it's meant to insult obviously.

Most men AND women are so brainwashed by misogyny that even when we think we reject it, we can't help but have leftovers hidden in all kinds of places we don't realize. So no matter what, most people can't say it being 100% non-offensive. So it's our word.

I absolutely hate hearing non sw women jokingly call each other or themselves whores because you just know that a little digging would uncover the response "I don't mean *that kind of whore*" (ok so stfu and find another fake way to seem edgy. Lol)



Totally random side note - feel free to skip:

I have only one friend, who is not a sw and who is actually male, who uses the term whore and I've never had a problem with it but that is my only exception. He's uncommonly, genuinely neutral and non-judgmental about sex, which makes his use of the word really non-offensive but I don't know anyone else I'd feel the same about using the word. I've never seen anyone react with less indifference to my disclosure when I made it, he's just a different breed of human.

This is a little prejudiced of me but the strangest part is he's born, raised and lived into adulthood in Lebanon, which is not really the most progressive feminist environment, even for Christians - although far from the worst either - I can understand why he'd need to immigrate here given he must have stuck out like a sore thumb lol he hates Lebanese, Syrians, Palestinians, Egyptians, and Jordanian equally, so idk. I've never asked but Israel probably doesn't get more love either. Anyway, random useless tidbit about a tinder hook up turned into a friend for years.. which is basically my track record haha)





However I do want to bring something up Respectfully, just to give some pause for reflection.

A sex worker and a person engaging in survival sex are obviously in very different positions of power and don't have the same amount of choice. In some cases, it's appropriate to make a distinction because I can't stand here and say we ALL choose this because of ABC and its been positive for ALL of us, and seriously take it upon myself to include everyone, especially not someone who is literally just surviving, with very limited choices and in a very precarious situation, who may never chose sw, even if in a perfect life situation.


But making this necessary distinction to avoid speaking over others' and their truth doesn't mean that choosing a more acceptable term for ourselves creates a hierarchy or different classes amongst people who receive money in exchange for sexual services, regardless of their higher rates or polished branding.

I'm not sure if you've ever heard of the term "whorearchy"? It describes this imaginary hierarchy we create among ourselves (and from the outside), where different types of sex work or working environments place themselves at the top, (usually the epitome of denial, that is, sugar babies, like to place themselves at or near the top).

The lesser contact type of work, such as phone sex, OF, strippers, porn performers come below in various orders..

Then DOMMES (I had a old friend of mine become absolutely offended when I referred to her as a sex worker. In her view, she was never penetrated herself, so how could it possibly be sex work - never mind she was pegging like mad, so even that argument was absurd but whatever)..

Followed by happy ending massage, and finally full-service sex work, within which another weird hierarchy exists within the main whorearchy: this would include courtesans, companions, "high class" escorts, mid-range, low range, and yes, what you referred to as "crackhead streetwalker looking for her next fix", or just a street worker without any drugs being involved.

(I don't think you meant any harm but just FYI to everyone who still uses this term, it's incredibly stigmatizing, derogatory, judgmental, and unnecessary. It's also very rooted in racism. I think we can retire the offensive dehumanizing term "crack whore" once and for all, for good. It's uncalled for, addiction isn't a personal or moral failing and anyone who knows even a little about substance abuse, harm reduction, and mental health knows its far more complex)

Anyway, the actual point I want to make is that the large sw whorearchy is bullshit and we need to be very intentional about catching ourselves when we do it and respectfully calling out others when they fall into the trap. I've read a lot of clients speak in terms that show they subscribe to it themselves so they shouldn't get a free pass either.


But more specifically, when it comes to the "bottom" <<full service>> hierarchy, I think it's imperative to stop this nonsense belief that because you call yourself a courtesan and can ask for rates like $2000/1hr with a minimum of 4hrs because you're "classy", you are somehow better, worth more, superior or in any basic way different than the street worker making ends meet by offering blow job a couple of evenings a week to pay for your kids hockey lessons, or a couple of times a day to support a substance use disorder.

That is one of the most delusional, disconnected, self-important division some on the "higher end" seem to cling on. The fact is we're all the same in the end, even if the privilege or life circumstances vary greatly.

Stepping on our sisters heads to make ourselves appear above them doesn't change the basic incontrovertible FACT that 2000/hr "experience" is just a dressed up $20/bj with added bells and whistles, neither of which is wrong, better, or inferior - it's just the same. A street worker is not automatically less classy than a "high class" courtesan, not necessarily smarter, well rounded or interesting to spend time with. So many so-called "high class" companions can't even pretend well enough they have much class, let alone "high" amounts of it. (Not hating on high class, although I hate the term. Just find it ridiculous that a few who call themselves HC, whatever that means, are so clearly off on their choice of branding. *hisssss*)

A sex worker is a human. A human is a human is a human, period.

So that's my take, just food for thought. Always be suspicious when someone makes a lot of effort distancing themselves or throwing others under the bus for their own benefit. Getting off my soapbox now haha :)


Cheers! xo
 
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Halloween Mike

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Is that what she means? Guidoune is a sex worker? Or like old québécois speak for slut shaming someone who's not technically a sex worker but seen as a little too much? Lol
More in the general sense as old quebecois speak as you say but it can include sex workers. One of my friend's father used to say "allez au guidounes" while speaking of going to the strip club. It just when i saw this word it reminded me of older peoples using it in the age of my mother or friend's parents ...
 
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Rebaynia

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Totally makes sense to use the term that you feel most comfortable with. Will also depends who you are talking too.

The term whore is used by a lot of sex workers referring to themselves, including myself - in specific circumstances. But it's never acceptable for anyone else to use is, especially if it's meant to insults obviously.

Most men AND women are so brainwashed by misogyny that even when we think we reject it, we can't help but have leftovers hidden in all kinds of places we don't realize. So no matter what, most people can't say it being 100% non offensive. So it's our word.

I absolutely hate hearing non sw women jokingly call each other or themselves whores because you just know that a little digging would uncover the response "I don't mean *that kind of whore*" (ok so stfu and find another fake way to seem edgy. Lol)



So I will add to that... growing up, even when I was a child being victimized, I was teased as being a slut, and pointed out as the whore or ho by so called "friends", and even family growing up. While no one knew what I was going threw at home behind closed doors. So I developed a great dislike for the words as it was something I was being referred to even when I was too young to understand it, into high school and young adulthood, and one of the reasons I think I ended up getting into sex work at 18 because people already had no respect for me in that manner. It basically became a fulfillment of a lifestyle everyone seemed to think I belonged in. Even after getting out of sex work it was a term that haunted and followed me while I was the faithful one in relationships, while they would be the ones to step outside of the relationship. All because I enjoyed having sex and was a little wild in my desires.

However I do want to bring something up Respectfully, just to give some pause for reflection.

(I don't think you meant any harm but just FYI to everyone who still uses this term, it's incredibly stigmatizing, derogatory, judgmental and unnecessary. It's also very rooted in racism. I think we can retire the offensive dehumanizing term "crack whore" once and for all, for good. It's uncalled for, addiction isn't a personal or moral failing and anyone who knows even a little about substance abuse, harm reduction and mental health knows its far more complex)

I wouldn't even dare call one of them a whore. Personally I understand that we are all victims of our circumstances in life. Their situation only comes up to thought as in that is how movies and tv perceived them as I was growing up. I am from an earlier time after all, and even when I worked with an agency 20 years ago, the other girls would refer to ladies who were on the street in such a manner. There was a sense of thinking they were better because they weren't found on a street corner. I will admit myself that avoiding thinking of myself, or my situation in that manner makes it easier to look at myself in the mirror (though I tend to avoid looking at myself at all if I can avoid it, also why I don't have much of an online presence).

Though have seen the word I guess in terms of the inability to be in a protected manner and inability to choose who you see for clients, being in a forced to deal with it situation over choosing for yourself who you get to see.

So that's my take, just food for thought. Always be suspicious when someone makes a lot of effort distancing themselves or throwing others under the bus for their own benefit. Getting off my soapbox now haha :)


Cheers! xo

Either way I see the term whore as a derogatory statement that lacks any kind of respect. Stripping the person it is being used against as if they are worth nothing more then just holes with no purpose. (how I picture a pimp views the girl he forces to work for him) Thinking of myself in those terms has me lack the ability to even get out of bed and deal with the day ahead. This is a lifestyle created out of necessity because life is too expensive to handle any more. Working a regular job doesn't pay enough to get by and make ends meet, and am just doing what I can to avoid needing to declare bankruptcy and loose the few things I have managed to acquire while working a regular job that eventually had me in constant anxiety and panic attacks, and supporting my kids.
In my mind it is this or live on the street, which isn't an option either, I can't let my kids live that way, so I push on doing what I can and what I must to get by.
 

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To me it seems like an easy answer: Service Provider. I would definitely give Escort a pass. I don't think I've ever said Sex Worker and I hate the word Prostitute.
 

Julia Sky

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I can't be arsed to read everyone's comment (I will later), but I just wanna chime in to say that "prostitute" and "whore" are terms that have been reclaimed. Think like... The n word, but for escorts.

You should never use those words to talk about us unless you're one of us!
 

bodick7

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And what about "client"? I just hate this term. It sounds like a dumb ATM
Would a better term would be something like "beneficiary"?
 
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Giselle Montreal

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While some argue that "service providers" is a more respectful term that acknowledges the agency and independent of those involved, others may have different perspectives.
I have thought about it for a while! And now that someone pushed this thread to the top again, I'm going in.

I would say that the term "service provider" seems respectful, but because any business is a provider of something (Telus or Rogers are service providers), it takes everything away from what we actually do. The sexual aspect of our job is not mentioned, therefore it is respectable and polite. It's a prude term that I use on Twitter so my posts don't get concealed by the app.

I think "sex worker" is a respectful, neutral and inclusive umbrella term for all the possible jobs on the market. More importantly, it doesn't hide the fact that sex is work and should be accepted. Escort is good but only a category of sex work, same for stripper and pornstar. We all fit under "sex workers".

I forgot to add that in French service providers (prestataires de service) has no meaning for my job, it's not something you will ever hear. Travailleuses du sexe (sex workers) have the same meaning that everybody can understand in my two official languages.
 
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I do not like any of the terms mentioned. I prefer to say companion or a date. At least if someone asks me what I am doing I'll simply say I have a date.
 

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I do not like any of the terms mentioned. I prefer to say companion or a date. At least if someone asks me what I am doing I'll simply say I have a date.
You dislike those terms probably because you prefer to hide the fact that you are hiring sex workers? When talking to me, other sex workers or about the profession to anyone, we should call a spade a spade, there should be no shame in that.
 
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you prefer to hide the fact that you are hiring sex workers?
Good point. Like cash in an envelope... I don't hire because it's a donation. Therefore I'm not a client.
 
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I think I use the word client because I'm not sure what else to refer to them as...

-I find refering to them as a john doesn't feel right.
-Beneficiary is just too long a word.
-Friend is just too informal.

They are clients, or regulars. The difference for me is a client I have seen once only, or not at all yet, and regular is someone I have met before, and there after.

I refer to going to see someone as visits, as I see them at their place, and it is the time I am visiting for that is paid, not the acts within.
Date for me has romance in it, and if I'm not being taken out on an actual date... I can't call it that, or how I view a real date is tarnished.
 
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You dislike those terms probably because you prefer to hide the fact that you are hiring sex workers? When talking to me, other sex workers or about the profession to anyone, we should call a spade a spade, there should be no shame in that.
Yes I hide it. I have only told a few people, and the reason is because a lot of the people I know won't understand, and, and this is a big and, my job. If at my work they were to find out that I hire, and I'll use the terms you so much like, hookers, whores or prostitutes I will get fired. Remember that this is still a taboo business so I try to be the most respectful as I can.
I am sure that on this board that there are many who don't tell others about hiring a lady.
For you it's not a shame or the other ladies, I have no problem hiring an SW, remember that not everyone accepts this. And I think you're taking my comment the wrong way. You actually have a man who is respectful and a gentleman.
 
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I have thought about it for a while! And now that someone pushed this thread to the top again, I'm going in.

I would say that the term "service provider" seems respectful, but because any business is a provider of something (Telus or Rogers are service providers), it takes everything away from what we actually do. The sexual aspect of our job is not mentioned, therefore it is respectable and polite. It's a prude term that I use on Twitter so my posts don't get concealed by the app.

I think "sex worker" is a respectful, neutral and inclusive umbrella term for all the possible jobs on the market. More importantly, it doesn't hide the fact that sex is work and should be accepted. Escort is good but only a category of sex work, same for stripper and pornstar. We all fit under "sex workers".

I forgot to add that in French service providers (prestataires de service) has no meaning for my job, it's not something you will ever hear. Travailleuses du sexe (sex workers) have the same meaning that everybody can understand in my two official languages.
"Un prestataire de l aide social (bs) " recoit, il ne donne rien. Une sp donne et recoit.

Personnellement je percois les sp s apparentent plus au milieux des arts qu a "l industrie du sexe". Je considere les sp comme des artistes.
 

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I think I use the word client because I'm not sure what else to refer to them as...

-I find refering to them as a john doesn't feel right.
-Beneficiary is just too long a word.
-Friend is just too informal.

They are clients, or regulars. The difference for me is a client I have seen once only, or not at all yet, and regular is someone I have met before, and there after.

I refer to going to see someone as visits, as I see them at their place, and it is the time I am visiting for that is paid, not the acts within.
Date for me has romance in it, and if I'm not being taken out on an actual date... I can't call it that, or how I view a real date is tarnished.
Mecene=patron
 
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