Guidoune is kind of like pitoune lol
Exploring Terminology: Is service Providers' a More Polite Term than 'Prostitute'?
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Guidoune is kind of like pitoune lol
Ah, so sorry to disappoint. Unfortunately racist trope wasn't an option. Try again. So much to choose from
Is that what she means? Guidoune is a sex worker? Or like old québécois speak for slut shaming someone who's not technically a sex worker but seen as a little too much? Lol
More in the general sense as old quebecois speak as you say but it can include sex workers. One of my friend's father used to say "allez au guidounes" while speaking of going to the strip club. It just when i saw this word it reminded me of older peoples using it in the age of my mother or friend's parents ...
So I will add to that... growing up, even when I was a child being victimized, I was teased as being a slut, and pointed out as the whore or ho by so called "friends", and even family growing up. While no one knew what I was going threw at home behind closed doors. So I developed a great dislike for the words as it was something I was being referred to even when I was too young to understand it, into high school and young adulthood, and one of the reasons I think I ended up getting into sex work at 18 because people already had no respect for me in that manner. It basically became a fulfillment of a lifestyle everyone seemed to think I belonged in. Even after getting out of sex work it was a term that haunted and followed me while I was the faithful one in relationships, while they would be the ones to step outside of the relationship. All because I enjoyed having sex and was a little wild in my desires.
I wouldn't even dare call one of them a whore. Personally I understand that we are all victims of our circumstances in life. Their situation only comes up to thought as in that is how movies and tv perceived them as I was growing up. I am from an earlier time after all, and even when I worked with an agency 20 years ago, the other girls would refer to ladies who were on the street in such a manner. There was a sense of thinking they were better because they weren't found on a street corner. I will admit myself that avoiding thinking of myself, or my situation in that manner makes it easier to look at myself in the mirror (though I tend to avoid looking at myself at all if I can avoid it, also why I don't have much of an online presence).
Though have seen the word I guess in terms of the inability to be in a protected manner and inability to choose who you see for clients, being in a forced to deal with it situation over choosing for yourself who you get to see.
So that's my take, just food for thought. Always be suspicious when someone makes a lot of effort distancing themselves or throwing others under the bus for their own benefit. Getting off my soapbox now haha
Cheers! xo
Either way I see the term whore as a derogatory statement that lacks any kind of respect. Stripping the person it is being used against as if they are worth nothing more then just holes with no purpose. (how I picture a pimp views the girl he forces to work for him) Thinking of myself in those terms has me lack the ability to even get out of bed and deal with the day ahead. This is a lifestyle created out of necessity because life is too expensive to handle any more. Working a regular job doesn't pay enough to get by and make ends meet, and am just doing what I can to avoid needing to declare bankruptcy and loose the few things I have managed to acquire while working a regular job that eventually had me in constant anxiety and panic attacks, and supporting my kids.
In my mind it is this or live on the street, which isn't an option either, I can't let my kids live that way, so I push on doing what I can and what I must to get by.
To me it seems like an easy answer: Service Provider. I would definitely give Escort a pass. I don't think I've ever said Sex Worker and I hate the word Prostitute.
I can't be arsed to read everyone's comment (I will later), but I just wanna chime in to say that "prostitute" and "whore" are terms that have been reclaimed. Think like... The n word, but for escorts.
You should never use those words to talk about us unless you're one of us!
You should never use those words to talk about us unless you're one of us!
I have thought about it for a while! And now that someone pushed this thread to the top again, I'm going in.
I would say that the term "service provider" seems respectful, but because any business is a provider of something (Telus or Rogers are service providers), it takes everything away from what we actually do. The sexual aspect of our job is not mentioned, therefore it is respectable and polite. It's a prude term that I use on Twitter so my posts don't get concealed by the app.
I think "sex worker" is a respectful, neutral and inclusive umbrella term for all the possible jobs on the market. More importantly, it doesn't hide the fact that sex is work and should be accepted. Escort is good but only a category of sex work, same for stripper and pornstar. We all fit under "sex workers".
I forgot to add that in French service providers (prestataires de service) has no meaning for my job, it's not something you will ever hear. Travailleuses du sexe (sex workers) have the same meaning that everybody can understand in my two official languages.
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I do not like any of the terms mentioned. I prefer to say companion or a date. At least if someone asks me what I am doing I'll simply say I have a date.
You dislike those terms probably because you prefer to hide the fact that you are hiring sex workers? When talking to me, other sex workers or about the profession to anyone, we should call a spade a spade, there should be no shame in that.
Good point. Like cash in an envelope... I don't hire because it's a donation. Therefore I'm not a client.
No envelope needed with me!
I meant that it's normal to hide from the people around you that you see sex workers. But when talking about the profession in general, it is useless to put our heads in the sand, and using respectful terms that don't hide what our profession is, is helpful.
I think I use the word client because I'm not sure what else to refer to them as...
-I find refering to them as a john doesn't feel right.
-Beneficiary is just too long a word.
-Friend is just too informal.
They are clients, or regulars. The difference for me is a client I have seen once only, or not at all yet, and regular is someone I have met before, and there after.
I refer to going to see someone as visits, as I see them at their place, and it is the time I am visiting for that is paid, not the acts within.
Date for me has romance in it, and if I'm not being taken out on an actual date... I can't call it that, or how I view a real date is tarnished.
-I find refering to them as a john doesn't feel right.
-Beneficiary is just too long a word.
-Friend is just too informal.
They are clients, or regulars. The difference for me is a client I have seen once only, or not at all yet, and regular is someone I have met before, and there after.
I refer to going to see someone as visits, as I see them at their place, and it is the time I am visiting for that is paid, not the acts within.
Date for me has romance in it, and if I'm not being taken out on an actual date... I can't call it that, or how I view a real date is tarnished.
Yes I hide it. I have only told a few people, and the reason is because a lot of the people I know won't understand, and, and this is a big and, my job. If at my work they were to find out that I hire, and I'll use the terms you so much like, hookers, whores or prostitutes I will get fired. Remember that this is still a taboo business so I try to be the most respectful as I can.
I am sure that on this board that there are many who don't tell others about hiring a lady.
For you it's not a shame or the other ladies, I have no problem hiring an SW, remember that not everyone accepts this. And I think you're taking my comment the wrong way. You actually have a man who is respectful and a gentleman.
No, I was not attacking you, mostly adding to your comment! I precised my thoughts in a following comment.
"Un prestataire de l aide social (bs) " recoit, il ne donne rien. Une sp donne et recoit.
Personnellement je percois les sp s apparentent plus au milieux des arts qu a "l industrie du sexe". Je considere les sp comme des artistes.
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