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Final U.S. Election Prediction.

Who do you think will win, and by how much???

  • McCain - Marginal: 291- 310 electors.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • McCain - Comfortable: 311 - 330 electors.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • McCain - Solid/Large: 331 - 365 electors.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    44
  • Poll closed .

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'Awesome night,' Bush tells Obama

(CNN) – White House spokeswoman Dana Perino says President Bush called Sen. Barack Obama at 11:12 p.m. to congratulate him on his victory, and that the President extended an invitation for the President-elect and his family to visit the White House soon, at their convenience.

Perino provided these quotes by President Bush from his conversation with Sen. Obama:

"Mr. President-elect, congratulations to you. What an awesome night for you, your family and your supporters. Laura and I called to congratulate you and your good bride."

"I promise to make this a smooth transition. You are about to go on one of the great journeys of life. Congratulations and go enjoy yourself."

Perino said the President also plans to talk to Sen. John McCain after McCain's speech.
 

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A good morning

Politics boring this year? "Bla?" Wow. I watched the victory talk and cried. And cried. So many dreams of so many people, who believe in equality, justice, opportunity, finally realized tonight. The percentages don't matter, nor does the fact that Obama as an individual will have a tough time making significant changes. (And by the way, the Republicans lost in many ways tonight). His lack of experience and weaknesses even aside. So many voices finally feel heard, so much work finally accomplished, despite all the work just beginning.
My coworkers in Harlem, scraping by on 14,000 a year doing the dirtiest work you can imagine, have not found politics boring this year. That I know. That joint will be jumping tomorrow. The history books will not call this year's politics boring. Besides sex, what could be more interesting?
 

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JustBob said:
Great speech by Obama but the twist ending just weirded me out. As soon as the speech ended with "... and God bless the United States of America", the lights in my house dimmed and the power went out. I was like huh? WTF just happened! lollll

Congratulations to the US and to all Americans on this historic night.

Hello JB,

I am still up savoring the magic. Loved the speech. It's exactly the kind I always dreamed someone would give...MY DUTY IS TO ALL OF YOU, AND YOUR DUTY IS TO YOUR COUNTRY...not just "the Party".

Awesome,

Korbel
 

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New Day-Great Change!

Congratulations to all our American friends who voted for all the right reasons.

Obama is an incredible orator......his speech flooded me with memories of M.L. King. Turns out the mountain can be moved after all! People are celebrating around the globe, and hope is, once again, more than just a four letter word!

BRAVO!!!!!!!!!!

I have to say that McCain's concession speech was noble, spirited and respectful.

Happy Nov.5, 2008

SMT
 

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Minnesota Senate race incredibly close!!!

Just woke up from an extended evening of celebrating & I decided to check how my man Al Franken faired out in his Senate bid. To my surprise, he's running neck-and-neck with the other guy, Coleman. But what's surprising isn't the fact he's running neck-and-neck....the man is absolutely brilliant, after all....but the fact the race is so unbelievably close. As i'm writing this, 99% of the polls have reported & these are the posted results:

Coleman 12,210,190 (42%)
Franken 12,210,028 (42%)
Barkley 437,146 (15%)


Are you kidding me? Out of 25 million votes, Franken is only trailing by 162 votes?? Is this possible?? Wow!!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:
 

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Good Morning all,

HISTORIC!

It feels good to wake up this morning in my country, and I am so proud of the American people today. And, it looks like it was done with a very solid popular vote victory in what will be an electoral landslide of 364-174.

Bravo! :):D

Korbel
Transcript: 'This is your victory,' says Obama

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/04/obama.transcript/index.html?iref=mpstoryview

CHICAGO, Illinois (CNN) -- Sen. Barack Obama spoke at a rally in Grant Park in Chicago, Illinois, after winning the race for the White House Tuesday night. The following is an exact transcript of his speech.
Obama:


Hello, Chicago.

If there is anyone out there who still doubts that America is a place where all things are possible, who still wonders if the dream of our founders is alive in our time, who still questions the power of our democracy, tonight is your answer.

It's the answer told by lines that stretched around schools and churches in numbers this nation has never seen, by people who waited three hours and four hours, many for the first time in their lives, because they believed that this time must be different, that their voices could be that difference.

It's the answer spoken by young and old, rich and poor, Democrat and Republican, black, white, Hispanic, Asian, Native American, gay, straight, disabled and not disabled. Americans who sent a message to the world that we have never been just a collection of individuals or a collection of red states and blue states.

We are, and always will be, the United States of America.
It's the answer that led those who've been told for so long by so many to be cynical and fearful and doubtful about what we can achieve to put their hands on the arc of history and bend it once more toward the hope of a better day.

It's been a long time coming, but tonight, because of what we did on this date in this election at this defining moment change has come to America.

A little bit earlier this evening, I received an extraordinarily gracious call from Sen. McCain.

Sen. McCain fought long and hard in this campaign. And he's fought even longer and harder for the country that he loves. He has endured sacrifices for America that most of us cannot begin to imagine. We are better off for the service rendered by this brave and selfless leader.

I congratulate him; I congratulate Gov. Palin for all that they've achieved. And I look forward to working with them to renew this nation's promise in the months ahead.

I want to thank my partner in this journey, a man who campaigned from his heart, and spoke for the men and women he grew up with on the streets of Scranton and rode with on the train home to Delaware, the vice president-elect of the United States, Joe Biden.

And I would not be standing here tonight without the unyielding support of my best friend for the last 16 years the rock of our family, the love of my life, the nation's next first lady Michelle Obama.

Sasha and Malia I love you both more than you can imagine. And you have earned the new puppy that's coming with us to the new White House.

And while she's no longer with us, I know my grandmother's watching, along with the family that made me who I am. I miss them tonight. I know that my debt to them is beyond measure.

To my sister Maya, my sister Alma, all my other brothers and sisters, thank you so much for all the support that you've given me. I am grateful to them.

And to my campaign manager, David Plouffe, the unsung hero of this campaign, who built the best -- the best political campaign, I think, in the history of the United States of America.

To my chief strategist David Axelrod who's been a partner with me every step of the way.

To the best campaign team ever assembled in the history of politics you made this happen, and I am forever grateful for what you've sacrificed to get it done.

But above all, I will never forget who this victory truly belongs to. It belongs to you. It belongs to you.

I was never the likeliest candidate for this office. We didn't start with much money or many endorsements. Our campaign was not hatched in the halls of Washington. It began in the backyards of Des Moines and the living rooms of Concord and the front porches of Charleston. It was built by working men and women who dug into what little savings they had to give $5 and $10 and $20 to the cause.

It grew strength from the young people who rejected the myth of their generation's apathy who left their homes and their families for jobs that offered little pay and less sleep.

It drew strength from the not-so-young people who braved the bitter cold and scorching heat to knock on doors of perfect strangers, and from the millions of Americans who volunteered and organized and proved that more than two centuries later a government of the people, by the people, and for the people has not perished from the Earth.
This is your victory.

And I know you didn't do this just to win an election. And I know you didn't do it for me.

You did it because you understand the enormity of the task that lies ahead. For even as we celebrate tonight, we know the challenges that tomorrow will bring are the greatest of our lifetime -- two wars, a planet in peril, the worst financial crisis in a century.

Even as we stand here tonight, we know there are brave Americans waking up in the deserts of Iraq and the mountains of Afghanistan to risk their lives for us.
There are mothers and fathers who will lie awake after the children fall asleep and wonder how they'll make the mortgage or pay their doctors' bills or save enough for their child's college education.

There's new energy to harness, new jobs to be created, new schools to build, and threats to meet, alliances to repair.

The road ahead will be long. Our climb will be steep. We may not get there in one year or even in one term. But, America, I have never been more hopeful than I am tonight that we will get there.

I promise you, we as a people will get there.

There will be setbacks and false starts. There are many who won't agree with every decision or policy I make as president. And we know the government can't solve every problem.

But I will always be honest with you about the challenges we face. I will listen to you, especially when we disagree. And, above all, I will ask you to join in the work of remaking this nation, the only way it's been done in America for 221 years -- block by block, brick by brick, calloused hand by calloused hand.

What began 21 months ago in the depths of winter cannot end on this autumn night.

This victory alone is not the change we seek. It is only the chance for us to make that change. And that cannot happen if we go back to the way things were.

It can't happen without you, without a new spirit of service, a new spirit of sacrifice.

So let us summon a new spirit of patriotism, of responsibility, where each of us resolves to pitch in and work harder and look after not only ourselves but each other.
Let us remember that, if this financial crisis taught us anything, it's that we cannot have a thriving Wall Street while Main Street suffers.

In this country, we rise or fall as one nation, as one people. Let's resist the temptation to fall back on the same partisanship and pettiness and immaturity that has poisoned our politics for so long.

Let's remember that it was a man from this state who first carried the banner of the Republican Party to the White House, a party founded on the values of self-reliance and individual liberty and national unity.
Those are values that we all share. And while the Democratic Party has won a great victory tonight, we do so with a measure of humility and determination to heal the divides that have held back our progress.
As Lincoln said to a nation far more divided than ours, we are not enemies but friends. Though passion may have strained, it must not break our bonds of affection.

And to those Americans whose support I have yet to earn, I may not have won your vote tonight, but I hear your voices. I need your help. And I will be your president, too.

Continued...
 
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Continued...

And to all those watching tonight from beyond our shores, from parliaments and palaces, to those who are huddled around radios in the forgotten corners of the world, our stories are singular, but our destiny is shared, and a new dawn of American leadership is at hand.

To those -- to those who would tear the world down: We will defeat you. To those who seek peace and security: We support you. And to all those who have wondered if America's beacon still burns as bright: Tonight we proved once more that the true strength of our nation comes not from the might of our arms or the scale of our wealth, but from the enduring power of our ideals: democracy, liberty, opportunity and unyielding hope.
That's the true genius of America: that America can change. Our union can be perfected. What we've already achieved gives us hope for what we can and must achieve tomorrow.

This election had many firsts and many stories that will be told for generations. But one that's on my mind tonight's about a woman who cast her ballot in Atlanta. She's a lot like the millions of others who stood in line to make their voice heard in this election except for one thing: Ann Nixon Cooper is 106 years old.

She was born just a generation past slavery; a time when there were no cars on the road or planes in the sky; when someone like her couldn't vote for two reasons -- because she was a woman and because of the color of her skin.

And tonight, I think about all that she's seen throughout her century in America -- the heartache and the hope; the struggle and the progress; the times we were told that we can't, and the people who pressed on with that American creed: Yes we can.

At a time when women's voices were silenced and their hopes dismissed, she lived to see them stand up and speak out and reach for the ballot. Yes we can.

When there was despair in the dust bowl and depression across the land, she saw a nation conquer fear itself with a New Deal, new jobs, a new sense of common purpose. Yes we can.

When the bombs fell on our harbor and tyranny threatened the world, she was there to witness a generation rise to greatness and a democracy was saved. Yes we can.

She was there for the buses in Montgomery, the hoses in Birmingham, a bridge in Selma, and a preacher from Atlanta who told a people that "We Shall Overcome." Yes we can.

A man touched down on the moon, a wall came down in Berlin, a world was connected by our own science and imagination.

And this year, in this election, she touched her finger to a screen, and cast her vote, because after 106 years in America, through the best of times and the darkest of hours, she knows how America can change.
Yes we can.

America, we have come so far. We have seen so much. But there is so much more to do. So tonight, let us ask ourselves -- if our children should live to see the next century; if my daughters should be so lucky to live as long as Ann Nixon Cooper, what change will they see? What progress will we have made?

This is our chance to answer that call. This is our moment.

This is our time, to put our people back to work and open doors of opportunity for our kids; to restore prosperity and promote the cause of peace; to reclaim the American dream and reaffirm that fundamental truth, that, out of many, we are one; that while we breathe, we hope. And where we are met with cynicism and doubts and those who tell us that we can't, we will respond with that timeless creed that sums up the spirit of a people: Yes, we can.

Thank you. God bless you. And may God bless the United States of America.
 

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Even Condoleezza

Wow all,

Even the most devoted Bush sycophant, Condoleezza Rice, gave an interview gushing with pride over the Obama victory. Watching her, one could see her heart racing as she tried to moderate her own breathing. The person who seemed never to question Bush is "proud" Obama won. :eek::D Geeeeez...I thought she was going to cry for a second until she recomposed herself.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/27556210#27556210

DAMN!

Korbel
 
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That was a damn well written speech i must say Korbie.Obama is lucky to have you on his staff!:p :D But seriously,I was very happy for the world last night;)

Centaurus...:mad: :rolleyes: LOL

:cool: Mikey:cool:
 

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The world indeed, Mikey. I am an American, and I have heard much complaining from people in other countries who've talked to me about Bush. His presidency was a disaster, and one that has tarnished America's reputation.

Now maybe we can move forward again. It is a great day in America. John McCain is a war hero and a great American, but his ideas for change were the wrong ones.

It has been many years since I was so excited by the results of an election. I have faith that Obama will deliver on his promises.
 

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I'm just delighted that Obama won... any other result would have been insanity. The win immediately raises the goodwill the rest of the globe has for the USA immeasurably.

I'm surprised that the popular vote is as close as it is.

I underestimated the happiness and sense of unity the victory produced... what a joy it is to see.

I don't envy Obama... he has HUGE difficult problems to face.

Please tell me the just convicted Alaskan senator Stevens didn't actually win:

Begich, Mark DEM 102998 46.54%
Stevens, Ted REP 106351 48.06%
 

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Dee said:
I'm just delighted that Obama won... any other result would have been insanity. The win immediately raises the goodwill the rest of the globe has for the USA immeasurably.

I'm surprised that the popular vote is as close as it is.

I underestimated the happiness and sense of unity the victory produced... what a joy it is to see.

I don't envy Obama... he has HUGE difficult problems to face.

Please tell me the just convicted Alaskan senator Stevens didn't actually win:

Begich, Mark DEM 102998 46.54%
Stevens, Ted REP 106351 48.06%
Hello Dee,

There was a poll reported by CNN about two weeks ago in which 72 countries were asked who they would rather see as the President of the U.S. Obama was chosen by 70 of them. I think the election of President-elect Obama is a truly momentous event. People in many countries around the world are celebrating not because they dislike Bush or McCain, but because of how delighted they feel that an African-American succeeded in gaining the Presidency. Many are stunned and enthralled at the same time.

But, the last 8 years have brought the U.S. to the verge of becoming a second rate nation, mostly because of the enormous debt, a debt that currently seems irreversible. And Bush will go down in history as one of the worst Presidents for all of the damage under his watch. Obama may have a more challenging task than Franklin Delano Roosevelt because of this. He will need to be more non-political than anyone ever before to achieve the almost unimaginable cooperation he will need to succeed. But he seems like the only one who might have the character to do so.

As for Senator Stevens of Alaska, for that state it's like seeing the father you love be convicted of a crime. You know he was wrong, but you can't help but support him. However, reports are that he will have no chance of keeping his seat in the Senate. The feeling is he is finished. They can probably cast him out on ehtics violations and the leaders of the Senate seem determined to do so.

Cheers,

Korbel
 
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Dee said:
The win immediately raises the goodwill the rest of the globe has for the USA immeasurably.

I think that point is a bit overblown. Citizens, the media and even politicians of other nations might have had an unfavorable opinion of the Bush admin, but the day-to-day effect on relations is negligible. Of course it's always nicer to deal with someone you like. :)
 

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You, I will respond to.I was expecting a bit of stability with a touch of recovery...guess we will have to wait a bit for that.

The action was happening, just prior to the vote.

That's how markets behave. The Obama win was expected, the markets has already absorded the news (positively) by the time it happened. Now the markets have resumed reacting to economic indicators which, the day after the election were not good.

On a further note, if he will open up the NAFTA agreement...he will lose a lot of allies here.Canada may have to play the energy card.

Exactly. What Obama might not realize is that Canada is in a far better position to renegotiate NAFTA to it's advantage then it was originally. One might even argue that we got screwed royally when it comes to energy.
 

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JustBob said:
That's how markets behave. The Obama win was expected, the markets has already absorded the news (positively) by the time it happened. Now the markets have resumed reacting to economic indicators which, the day after the election were not good.
Pundits who just days ago were saying that U.S. Citizens had more faith in Obama when it related to the economy are now having to hurriedly work up stories reassuring the public that this drop isn't related to public fear that Obama is not up to the task of managing the current economic problems.
You would make a good propagandist pundit justbs.
 

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Pundits who just days ago were saying that U.S. Citizens had more faith in Obama when it related to the economy are now having to hurriedly work up stories reassuring the public that this drop isn't related to public fear that Obama is not up to the task of managing the current economic problems.
You would make a good propagandist pundit justbs.

Your knowledge of economics is as fascinating (read: hilarious) as your political views. But let me help you out. For starters, trying reading the article YOU posted, where the reason(s) for the drop are clearly indicated.
 

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JustBob said:
Your knowledge of economics is as fascinating (read: hilarious) as your political views. But let me help you out. For starters, trying reading the article YOU posted, where the reason(s) for the drop are clearly indicated.
O.K. Mr. Economics genius, explain how socialism is going to help a capitalist market. I'm sure it will be fascinating(read:foolish).
Also, I guess somewhere in your economics 101 class they skipped the most important factor of the market “confidence” .
 
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