The American Mid-Term Elections: Republicans and Tea Partiers Be Warned.
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Lame Rumples, real lame. Demonstrates both your lack of wit & intelligence.
Similar to all the gay-bashing coming from the Right when we find out later the bashers themselves just happen to be homosexuals (e.g. Mark Foley, Ken Mehlman, etc).
I have to agree on Palin, she's proved to be a political lightweight so far, while Lisa Murkowski seems good. I would like to see more information on Murkowski posted here. I think at this point Palin's in it for the $$$$$$$$ and not a serious canidate. Funny and entertaining press, but almost as bad a choice as Pelosi would be.
Another story on Murkowski vs. DeMint
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By MANU RAJU | 11/16/10 5:19 PM EST Updated: 11/16/10 5:22 PM EST
After ripping Sarah Palin, Alaska Sen. Lisa Murkowski isn’t mincing words about another one of her high-profile GOP critics: South Carolina Sen. Jim DeMint.
“I think some of the Republicans in the Congress feel pretty strongly that he and his actions potentially cost us the majority by encouraging candidates that ended up not being electable,” Murkowski told POLITICO outside her Senate office. “And I think Delaware is a pretty good example of that, and I think there’re some folks that feel that DeMint’s actions didn’t necessarily help the Republican majority.”
DeMint cost us majority Murkowski suggested the South Carolina conservative and favorite of the tea party seemed more interested in bolstering his own political standing rather than that of the Republican Party.
“So the real question is, what’s his desire?” she said. “Does he want to help the Republican majority, or is he on his own agenda, his own initiative?”
Asked what she believed the answer was, Murkowksi said: “I think he’s out for his own initiative.”
With ballots still being counted in Alaska, Murkowksi’s assessment comes on the cusp of an improbable victory following her write-in campaign, which appears to have knocked off Republican Joe Miller, the tea party darling who defeated her in the party’s primary. After Miller won his primary, DeMint backed his candidacy – and sharply attacked Murkowski.
DeMint’s political action committee paid for a TV and radio campaign in Alaska that attacked Murkowski for maintaining an “extreme … pro-abortion” position, saying she backed using federal tax dollars to pay for abortion. DeMint stepped up his attacks against Murkowski, calling her “a party switcher” and saying that the Republican establishment had effectively protected her by not stripping her from her leadership spot on the Energy and Natural Resources Committee.
Asked about his attacks on Murkowski, DeMint said it was all part of the campaign season and that he was ready to move on.
“That’s behind us,” DeMint told POLITICO. “If she wins, which it appears she will, I’m going to congratulate her and welcome her back. But I didn’t like the idea of a member losing the primary and then running against our nominee. But that’s all done now.”
On CNN last week, Murkowski said that DeMint had “some making up to do,” saying that she would “let him make that first move.”
Commentary: This guy DeMint is almost as bad as Pelosi. Neither having the best interests of the American People as their principal ambitions. Maybe we should get Pelosi & DeMint in bed together to FUCK EACH OTHERS BRAINS OUT....LOL
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By MANU RAJU | 11/16/10 5:19 PM EST Updated: 11/16/10 5:22 PM EST
After ripping Sarah Palin, Alaska Sen. Lisa Murkowski isn’t mincing words about another one of her high-profile GOP critics: South Carolina Sen. Jim DeMint.
“I think some of the Republicans in the Congress feel pretty strongly that he and his actions potentially cost us the majority by encouraging candidates that ended up not being electable,” Murkowski told POLITICO outside her Senate office. “And I think Delaware is a pretty good example of that, and I think there’re some folks that feel that DeMint’s actions didn’t necessarily help the Republican majority.”
DeMint cost us majority Murkowski suggested the South Carolina conservative and favorite of the tea party seemed more interested in bolstering his own political standing rather than that of the Republican Party.
“So the real question is, what’s his desire?” she said. “Does he want to help the Republican majority, or is he on his own agenda, his own initiative?”
Asked what she believed the answer was, Murkowksi said: “I think he’s out for his own initiative.”
With ballots still being counted in Alaska, Murkowksi’s assessment comes on the cusp of an improbable victory following her write-in campaign, which appears to have knocked off Republican Joe Miller, the tea party darling who defeated her in the party’s primary. After Miller won his primary, DeMint backed his candidacy – and sharply attacked Murkowski.
DeMint’s political action committee paid for a TV and radio campaign in Alaska that attacked Murkowski for maintaining an “extreme … pro-abortion” position, saying she backed using federal tax dollars to pay for abortion. DeMint stepped up his attacks against Murkowski, calling her “a party switcher” and saying that the Republican establishment had effectively protected her by not stripping her from her leadership spot on the Energy and Natural Resources Committee.
Asked about his attacks on Murkowski, DeMint said it was all part of the campaign season and that he was ready to move on.
“That’s behind us,” DeMint told POLITICO. “If she wins, which it appears she will, I’m going to congratulate her and welcome her back. But I didn’t like the idea of a member losing the primary and then running against our nominee. But that’s all done now.”
On CNN last week, Murkowski said that DeMint had “some making up to do,” saying that she would “let him make that first move.”
Commentary: This guy DeMint is almost as bad as Pelosi. Neither having the best interests of the American People as their principal ambitions. Maybe we should get Pelosi & DeMint in bed together to FUCK EACH OTHERS BRAINS OUT....LOL
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Lead pipe lock...nothing will get done for sure now...
Ultimately the stupidest thing that house Dems could have done. Nothing will get done for sure now...
http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-general/20101117/US.Democrats.Disarray/
Pelosi should step down for the good of the country.
House Democrats keep Nancy Pelosi as their leader
By CHARLES BABINGTON, AP
WASHINGTON — House Democrats elected Nancy Pelosi to remain as their leader Wednesday despite massive party losses in this month's congressional elections that prompted some lawmakers to call for new leadership. Pelosi, the nation's first female House speaker, will become minority leader when Republicans assume the majority in the new Congress in January.
She defeated moderate Democratic Rep. Heath Shuler of North Carolina, 150-43, in secret balloting in a lengthy closed-door gathering of House Democrats in the Capitol.
Pelosi, 70, overcame a rebellion from party centrists, and even some fellow liberals, who argued that the party needs to offer a new face of leadership after losing at least 60 House seats on Nov. 2. She remains popular among the liberals who dominate the party's House caucus. But Shuler's level of support — plus an earlier 129-68 vote against postponing the election that Pelosi wanted to wrap up quickly — underscored the degree of discontent in a party that Pelosi had largely bended to her will in the past four years.
Republicans voted to keep John Boehner of Ohio as their top House leader. Boehner, who celebrated his 61st birthday Wednesday, had no opposition, and will become speaker in the new Congress. Rep. Eric Cantor, R-Va., will become majority leader.
Many House Democrats defended Pelosi, who said the bad economy and high unemployment were the reasons for her party's election losses.
But others said Republicans had found too much success in running ads all over the country attacking Pelosi and linking her to other Democrats.
"The truth is, she is the face that defeated us in this last election," said Rep. Allen Boyd, D-Fla., who lost his reelection bid this month.
Rep. Tim Ryan, D-Ohio, had wanted to give party members more time to mull the election's meaning and its impact on leadership decisions.
"We've got to get our message right," Ryan said. "After a loss this substantial, there's a lot of people that just think we need to take our time and reflect about the direction we're going in, what issues we're going to focus on, what could we have done better....It's important that the next step that we take is very well thought out."
Rep. Steny Hoyer of Maryland, a leader of moderate Democrats, kept the party's No. 2 House post. Rep. Jim Clyburn, D-S.C., the House's highest-ranking black member, is in line to be elected to a new position called "assistant leader." Despite the new title, he will remain the House Democrats' third-ranking leader.
President Barack Obama has invited congressional leaders of both parties to the White House, a postelection session expected this week but now put off until Nov. 30. The White House said Tuesday that Boehner and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell asked for the delay because of scheduling conflicts in organizing their caucuses.
The week's events offered scant evidence that Democrats, who often quarrel among themselves, will become more cohesive in the wake of their 60-seat House loss.
Shuler, for instance, showed no interest in mimicking the solidarity that House Republicans displayed during the past four years, when they voted unanimously or nearly unanimously against many high-profile initiatives by Democrats, including Obama.
"It's very frustrating when I see everyone voting in bloc," Shuler told reporters, because Americans are diverse and crave bipartisan solutions.
Republicans took a different tack after the 2006 election, which cost them the House majority they had held for 12 years. Within a day, then-Speaker Dennis Hastert, R-Ill., said he would step down as party leader in the next Congress.
House Republicans soon coalesced around Boehner, and he persuaded them to consistently oppose Democrats despite what some people saw as anti-GOP rebukes from voters in 2006 and 2008.
Ultimately the stupidest thing that house Dems could have done. Nothing will get done for sure now...
http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-general/20101117/US.Democrats.Disarray/
Pelosi should step down for the good of the country.
House Democrats keep Nancy Pelosi as their leader
By CHARLES BABINGTON, AP
WASHINGTON — House Democrats elected Nancy Pelosi to remain as their leader Wednesday despite massive party losses in this month's congressional elections that prompted some lawmakers to call for new leadership. Pelosi, the nation's first female House speaker, will become minority leader when Republicans assume the majority in the new Congress in January.
She defeated moderate Democratic Rep. Heath Shuler of North Carolina, 150-43, in secret balloting in a lengthy closed-door gathering of House Democrats in the Capitol.
Pelosi, 70, overcame a rebellion from party centrists, and even some fellow liberals, who argued that the party needs to offer a new face of leadership after losing at least 60 House seats on Nov. 2. She remains popular among the liberals who dominate the party's House caucus. But Shuler's level of support — plus an earlier 129-68 vote against postponing the election that Pelosi wanted to wrap up quickly — underscored the degree of discontent in a party that Pelosi had largely bended to her will in the past four years.
Republicans voted to keep John Boehner of Ohio as their top House leader. Boehner, who celebrated his 61st birthday Wednesday, had no opposition, and will become speaker in the new Congress. Rep. Eric Cantor, R-Va., will become majority leader.
Many House Democrats defended Pelosi, who said the bad economy and high unemployment were the reasons for her party's election losses.
But others said Republicans had found too much success in running ads all over the country attacking Pelosi and linking her to other Democrats.
"The truth is, she is the face that defeated us in this last election," said Rep. Allen Boyd, D-Fla., who lost his reelection bid this month.
Rep. Tim Ryan, D-Ohio, had wanted to give party members more time to mull the election's meaning and its impact on leadership decisions.
"We've got to get our message right," Ryan said. "After a loss this substantial, there's a lot of people that just think we need to take our time and reflect about the direction we're going in, what issues we're going to focus on, what could we have done better....It's important that the next step that we take is very well thought out."
Rep. Steny Hoyer of Maryland, a leader of moderate Democrats, kept the party's No. 2 House post. Rep. Jim Clyburn, D-S.C., the House's highest-ranking black member, is in line to be elected to a new position called "assistant leader." Despite the new title, he will remain the House Democrats' third-ranking leader.
President Barack Obama has invited congressional leaders of both parties to the White House, a postelection session expected this week but now put off until Nov. 30. The White House said Tuesday that Boehner and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell asked for the delay because of scheduling conflicts in organizing their caucuses.
The week's events offered scant evidence that Democrats, who often quarrel among themselves, will become more cohesive in the wake of their 60-seat House loss.
Shuler, for instance, showed no interest in mimicking the solidarity that House Republicans displayed during the past four years, when they voted unanimously or nearly unanimously against many high-profile initiatives by Democrats, including Obama.
"It's very frustrating when I see everyone voting in bloc," Shuler told reporters, because Americans are diverse and crave bipartisan solutions.
Republicans took a different tack after the 2006 election, which cost them the House majority they had held for 12 years. Within a day, then-Speaker Dennis Hastert, R-Ill., said he would step down as party leader in the next Congress.
House Republicans soon coalesced around Boehner, and he persuaded them to consistently oppose Democrats despite what some people saw as anti-GOP rebukes from voters in 2006 and 2008.
So Pelosi wins the Democratic Leadership post, thus insuring another two years of gridlock and a trip to nowhereland for the US. Then she blames her low rating on a measly $75 million in hate ads? Damn, that would bearly make a dent in a National Advertising Budget for anyone. Hell, the combined nominees for the Florida Gubenitorial Race spent over $57 million. But in typical Pelosi fashion, she can't acknowledge that anyone could be both correct and disagree with her.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/11/17/house.leadership/index.html?hpt=T2
Longtime DEMOCRATIC Congressman, from a longtime Florida Panhandle Democratic Stronghold, Rep. Allen Boyd was quick to say:
Pelosi is "the face that defeated us in this last election," Florida Rep. Allen Boyd told CNN. "It seems to me that at some point you have to put your personal agenda and ambitions aside for the good of the country** and certainly the party."
"I don't know how we go into these districts like the one I represented ... and recruit good moderate Democrats if you have the same leadership," he said.
**an act of treason IMHO.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/11/17/house.leadership/index.html?hpt=T2
Longtime DEMOCRATIC Congressman, from a longtime Florida Panhandle Democratic Stronghold, Rep. Allen Boyd was quick to say:
Pelosi is "the face that defeated us in this last election," Florida Rep. Allen Boyd told CNN. "It seems to me that at some point you have to put your personal agenda and ambitions aside for the good of the country** and certainly the party."
"I don't know how we go into these districts like the one I represented ... and recruit good moderate Democrats if you have the same leadership," he said.
**an act of treason IMHO.
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Posted with the following comment: Harry Reid continues to impress me since the election. He seems to get it.
House and Senate Democrats plan tax cut votes after Thanksgiving
By: CNN's Deirdre Walsh and Dana Bash and Ted Barrett
Washington (CNN) – Democratic leaders in the House and the Senate have decided to move ahead with votes after Thanksgiving to extend the Bush tax cuts for those making $250,000 or less.
These decisions come hours after Democratic leaders met at the White House with President Obama, where several sources say they talked extensively about the tax cuts. Until now, how or whether Democrats would proceed on the thorny issue of extending the Bush era tax cuts was unresolved.
In the House, Majority Leader Steny Hoyer told CNN that Democratic leaders have scheduled a vote. "At least that will be available for members to have a vote on," Hoyer said.
What is still unclear is if that House vote would extend so-called middle class tax cuts permanently, or just on a temporary basis.
In the Senate, Majority Leader Harry Reid said he plans to vote on the middle class tax cut extension most Democrats want, but he will also allow Republicans to hold a vote on what they are demanding: a permanent extension of all Bush-era tax cuts.
"We want to give the Republicans an opportunity to vote on McConnell's legislation," Reid said. He also said he might hold multiple votes on the issue, "If we have to do it more than once, twice, to show the American people that we support the middle class."
Reid said he is not sure whether the Democrats' legislation in the Senate would be a permanent extension for those making $250,000 or less, or temporary. The Senate Democratic caucus appears to be split on that.
"We have to be very, very careful extending things indefinitely because we have to focus on what the economy might be in the future," said Reid.
It is unclear if Democrats in either chamber have enough votes to pass only the middle-class tax cuts. Democratic leaders are leaving open the possibility of compromise with Republicans if their measures do not pass. In fact,
Democratic sources say Obama made clear in Thursday's meeting they may ultimately need to find a middle ground.
House and Senate Democrats plan tax cut votes after Thanksgiving
By: CNN's Deirdre Walsh and Dana Bash and Ted Barrett
Washington (CNN) – Democratic leaders in the House and the Senate have decided to move ahead with votes after Thanksgiving to extend the Bush tax cuts for those making $250,000 or less.
These decisions come hours after Democratic leaders met at the White House with President Obama, where several sources say they talked extensively about the tax cuts. Until now, how or whether Democrats would proceed on the thorny issue of extending the Bush era tax cuts was unresolved.
In the House, Majority Leader Steny Hoyer told CNN that Democratic leaders have scheduled a vote. "At least that will be available for members to have a vote on," Hoyer said.
What is still unclear is if that House vote would extend so-called middle class tax cuts permanently, or just on a temporary basis.
In the Senate, Majority Leader Harry Reid said he plans to vote on the middle class tax cut extension most Democrats want, but he will also allow Republicans to hold a vote on what they are demanding: a permanent extension of all Bush-era tax cuts.
"We want to give the Republicans an opportunity to vote on McConnell's legislation," Reid said. He also said he might hold multiple votes on the issue, "If we have to do it more than once, twice, to show the American people that we support the middle class."
Reid said he is not sure whether the Democrats' legislation in the Senate would be a permanent extension for those making $250,000 or less, or temporary. The Senate Democratic caucus appears to be split on that.
"We have to be very, very careful extending things indefinitely because we have to focus on what the economy might be in the future," said Reid.
It is unclear if Democrats in either chamber have enough votes to pass only the middle-class tax cuts. Democratic leaders are leaving open the possibility of compromise with Republicans if their measures do not pass. In fact,
Democratic sources say Obama made clear in Thursday's meeting they may ultimately need to find a middle ground.
Now here's an interesting statistic: The below story has now become one of the most recommended CNN stories on FACEBOOK (over 30,500). Looking over many of the comments, perhaps Pelosi should take a hint....I find John's comment on the CNN website dated November 3, 2010 at 5:07 pm to be an absolute riot.
I think you still spell the word bullshit b-u-l-l-s-h-i-t. What defeated the Dems in the recent election was one thing and one thing only: the simple fact that it's taken the Democrats more than 20 months to repair the damage done by George Bush. Americans have short memories and are impatient.
I think it was PT Barnum who said that nobody ever went broke underestimating the American public.
I think it was PT Barnum who said that nobody ever went broke underestimating the American public.
Commentary: I never thought I'd say this, but I'm actually VERY SORRY to hear this.....
TRENDING: Clinton: I'm not running for president
By: CNN's Gabriella Schwarz
November 21st, 2010
10:11 AM ET
(CNN) - Secretary Of State Hillary Clinton is not running for president - just ask her.
"I am not in any way interested in or pursuing anything in elected office," Clinton said on "Fox News Sunday."
Clinton laughed off speculation that she might run for president in 2012.
"I love what I'm doing," Clinton said. "I can't tell you what it's like… to every day get to represent the United States."
She said she feels strongly about "every issue, from START to Afghanistan."
But her repeated claims that she won't run for office again have done little to quell the talk that she might challenge President Barack Obama in the next election.
but, then maybe this gives "food for thought":
Biden talks switching places with Clinton
By: CNN Ticker Producer Alexander Mooney
November 19th, 2010
08:14 AM ET
(CNN) – Vice President Joe Biden is trying to put to rest those pesky rumors that he and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton might switch places ahead of the next presidential election.
"Here's the deal - the president and I - there was never any serious talk ever that anyone ever heard about me not being on the ticket with him or her not staying at State," Biden told CNN's Larry King in an interview Thursday.
The scenario – whereby Biden and Clinton would exchange posts – has been bandied about by political observers for months, seen by some as a potentially savvy strategy to gin up excitement among what could be a depressed Democratic base in 2012. The move would likely revive excitement among that faction of the party that vehemently supported Clinton and lobbied for her to get the No. 2 spot as well as place Biden in a post he appears naturally suited for.
The rumor took on a life of its own last month when veteran journalist Bob Woodward told CNN the idea is "on the table" and some of Hillary Clinton's advisers think it is a real possibility.
"Bob backed off a little bit on that," Biden said. "What he basically said was when she was being considered for Secretary of State, it was suggested by one of her pollsters she should take it because maybe there would be the opportunity to be vice president."
Related: Biden: 'Take the training wheels off' in Afghanistan
"Hillary has made it clear right from the first time I came out, 'Joe, I don't want to be vice president. The president has made it clear, Joe, I expect you to be on the ticket. I want you on the ticket.' So it was really, kind of - you know, sort of a Washington parlor game.
Turning to the subject of Sarah Palin – who has increasingly given signals she is considering a presidential bid – Biden said he's unsure what kind of opponent the former Alaska governor would make in 2012.
"Well, you know, my mom used to have an expression, 'Be careful what you wish for, Joe, you may get it.' So I never underestimate anyone. And - but I think, in that race, it would be a clear, clear choice for the country to make, and I believe President Obama would be in very good shape."
The vice president added he finds Palin "an appealing person" who has "turned out to be, and she is, a real force in the Republican Party."
TRENDING: Clinton: I'm not running for president
By: CNN's Gabriella Schwarz
November 21st, 2010
10:11 AM ET
(CNN) - Secretary Of State Hillary Clinton is not running for president - just ask her.
"I am not in any way interested in or pursuing anything in elected office," Clinton said on "Fox News Sunday."
Clinton laughed off speculation that she might run for president in 2012.
"I love what I'm doing," Clinton said. "I can't tell you what it's like… to every day get to represent the United States."
She said she feels strongly about "every issue, from START to Afghanistan."
But her repeated claims that she won't run for office again have done little to quell the talk that she might challenge President Barack Obama in the next election.
but, then maybe this gives "food for thought":
Biden talks switching places with Clinton
By: CNN Ticker Producer Alexander Mooney
November 19th, 2010
08:14 AM ET
(CNN) – Vice President Joe Biden is trying to put to rest those pesky rumors that he and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton might switch places ahead of the next presidential election.
"Here's the deal - the president and I - there was never any serious talk ever that anyone ever heard about me not being on the ticket with him or her not staying at State," Biden told CNN's Larry King in an interview Thursday.
The scenario – whereby Biden and Clinton would exchange posts – has been bandied about by political observers for months, seen by some as a potentially savvy strategy to gin up excitement among what could be a depressed Democratic base in 2012. The move would likely revive excitement among that faction of the party that vehemently supported Clinton and lobbied for her to get the No. 2 spot as well as place Biden in a post he appears naturally suited for.
The rumor took on a life of its own last month when veteran journalist Bob Woodward told CNN the idea is "on the table" and some of Hillary Clinton's advisers think it is a real possibility.
"Bob backed off a little bit on that," Biden said. "What he basically said was when she was being considered for Secretary of State, it was suggested by one of her pollsters she should take it because maybe there would be the opportunity to be vice president."
Related: Biden: 'Take the training wheels off' in Afghanistan
"Hillary has made it clear right from the first time I came out, 'Joe, I don't want to be vice president. The president has made it clear, Joe, I expect you to be on the ticket. I want you on the ticket.' So it was really, kind of - you know, sort of a Washington parlor game.
Turning to the subject of Sarah Palin – who has increasingly given signals she is considering a presidential bid – Biden said he's unsure what kind of opponent the former Alaska governor would make in 2012.
"Well, you know, my mom used to have an expression, 'Be careful what you wish for, Joe, you may get it.' So I never underestimate anyone. And - but I think, in that race, it would be a clear, clear choice for the country to make, and I believe President Obama would be in very good shape."
The vice president added he finds Palin "an appealing person" who has "turned out to be, and she is, a real force in the Republican Party."
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Seems to be a chorus of those in the Republican Party attempting to head off a presidential bid by Palin. She really seems like she's in it for the $$$$$$$$ at this point, not the good of the nation: http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2010/11/19/lkl.bush.barbara.cnn?hpt=C2
I'll trust Barbara Bush on this one.....
I'll trust Barbara Bush on this one.....
Good point CS, I like her but she's starting to look like a self-promoting goldigger ... a female version of Al Gore! LOL
Despite some misgivings about Mr. Gore, at least he had the courtesy to write a real benchmark book, rather than her poor attempt. No one should interpet this to be any support for Gore. Rather, I'm less than enchanted by Sara Palin. Joe Liberman is still my political hero.
Who knows maybe down the road it will all come out differently than we think now...
I have to change my opinion in favor of the tea party in order to stir some...
Specially now that I have pissed the guys from Boston in the sport section
I think Palin will be the first woman at the white house !
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Who knows maybe down the road it will all come out differently than we think now...
I have to change my opinion in favor of the tea party in order to stir some...
Specially now that I have pissed the guys from Boston in the sport section
I think Palin will be the first woman at the white house !
Only is she goes by official tour.....
There's a big difference between pissing people off and displaying ignorance.Specially now that I have pissed the guys from Boston in the sport section
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