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Gas - Religion; amazing those Americans!

Hi,

Check this out; Religion & Gas prices!!!! Found this article in French in www.radio-canada.ca

Prix de l'essence

Station d'essence américaine

Des religieux se rassembleront jeudi à Washington pour prier publiquement afin de faire baisser le prix de l'essence, a annoncé l'organisation américaine de prière en ligne Pray Live.

Plusieurs responsables d'organisations religieuses protestantes de Washington ont prévu participer à l'événement.

La fondatrice de Pray Live, Wenda Royster espère que ces rassemblements devant les stations d'essence de la capitale américaine rappelleront « qui est vraiment responsable de notre monde : Dieu ».

Par ailleurs, plusieurs sénateurs démocrates influents ont organisé mercredi une conférence de presse devant la station d'essence la plus proche du Capitole, siège du Congrès, pour appeler la majorité républicaine à intervenir
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Here it is translated into English (as best I could) :rolleyes: :

Price of gas

American gas station.

The religious will gather Thursday in Washington to publicly request an order to cause a drop in the price of the gasoline, announced the American Organization of Prayer in Line Pray Live.

Several persons in charge for Protestant religious organizations of Washington went to take part in the event.

The founder of Pray Live, Wenda Royster, hopes that these gatherings in front of the gas stations of the American capital will recall "who is really responsible for our world: God ".

In addition, several influential Democratic senators organized a press conference Wednesday in front of the gas station nearest to Capitol, near Congress, to invite the Republican majority to intervene.

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World prices do not always reflect the prices at the pumps.

Gentlemen,

One of the factors that determine the prices at the pumps are how much gasoline are in the big tanks in the east end of Montreal. If the taks are full and the holding tanks for the unprocesses crude is full and there are 20 big tankers steaming down the St. Laurence river full of crude oil, then the prices will dive even if the world prices go up. There are several factors in play that determine how much we pay for gas at the pumps.
There is only a ways we can drive the prices down as consumers. We have to consume as little gas as possible, if it is not possible to cut back then if we buy only what we need and keep their holding tanks full the prices will go down temporarily. One other method is to buy when the prices are down mondays to wednesdays and not buy when the prices are up on thursday to saturdays.
In california there is aready a consumer protest where they buy as little as possible and at the lowere prices only and they let the big oil companies know that they are not happy by buying $5.55, $10.55, $15.55 or $20.55 of gasoline 9all prices ending in .55 cents (the 55 is significant because it is the maximum speed limit MPH on many American highways.)
 

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V11,

I don't believe that is true. The speed limit is 55 mph in Connecticut and in many other States.
interstate highway are 65 and even faster in some state. Unless you are coming to montreal using the back road you are driving 65
 

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Maryland also has a 55 mph speed limit for most highways including both the Baltimore and DC beltways (I-695 and I-495), and the roads connecting Balto with DC (except for I-95).

BTW, my local gas stations have gone up to $3.09/gal.
 
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CryWolf

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New oil shock ahead as $100 spike looms

Oliver Morgan and Heather Stewart
Sunday April 30, 2006
The Observer

The growing international crisis over Iran's nuclear programme could trigger a catastrophic oil price spike, sending crude prices over $100 a barrel, senior Wall Street analysts are warning.

With prices already at around $72 a barrel, such an increase could mean drivers facing prices of 110p a litre on forecourts, according the the Petrol Retailers Association. Last week Lord Browne, chief executive of BP, warned that prices could rise to £1 as he unveiled bumper $5.27bn profits for the first quarter.

Shell is also expected to announce close to record numbers next week, with analysts expecting profits around $5.57bn, driven largely by the oil price.

A single political shock could be enough to send oil markets into panic, said Adam Sieminski, senior energy economist at Deutsche Bank in New York. 'If we have one more big problem we are going to have triple-digit oil prices.' Sieminski points to confrontation with Iran, a worsening of the situation in Iraq or a recurrence of devastating hurricanes in the Gulf of Mexico as potential catalysts for a major rise.

Prices rose by as much as $1.20 in late trading on Friday after the United Nations inspector Mohamed El Baradei said Iran had not complied with demands to disclose the extent of its uranium enrichment programme. Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad later said he 'did not give a damn' about the UN's opinion.

In a report, Sieminski argues that with the world consuming some 85 million barrels of oil a day, a supply disruption of 2 million barrels a day (60 per cent of Iran's exports) 'can only be rebalanced through an extraordinary rise in prices.'

But he believes any breaching of the $100 level would be short-lived, and that prices would fall to between $30 and $60 as increased investment brings new production and refining capacity on stream in oil-producing nations.

Mary Novak, managing director of energy services at consultants Global Insight, said Iran would not need to turn off the taps completely - even if it shut off just a 10th of its 3 million barrels a day of exports, the impact would be dramatic. 'With the situation we have, 300,000 barrels a day would drive prices up significantly,' she said, adding that with the global economy growing more quickly than expected this year 'demand is still expanding and supply is having trouble catching up'.

High crude prices have pushed gasoline prices up to $3 a gallon in the US, where President George Bush has described the rise as a tax on motorists, and Republican senators have promised measures to abate prices, including an investigation of oil company tax payments. The approach of the US driving season has combined with the hangover effect of last year's hurricanes on US refining capacity to underpin current price levels. Refineries in the US have increased their spring maintenance shut-downs for several weeks, to deal with damage from the autumn.

At the same time, more stringent environmental controls on gasolene content led to some US petrol stations running dry on Friday. New rules, which come into force this year, have mandated higher ethanol content in vehicle fuel; but since ethanol cannot be pumped through pipelines, a shortage of infrastructure meant that in some states, including Texas, fuel was not getting to the pumps.

Manouchehr Takin, oil analyst at the Centre for Global Energy Studies in London said 'Every year, approaching the summer driving season in the US, the market gets hyped, and the prices go higher, because of the fear of a shortage.'

Ray Holloway, of the Petrol Retailers' Association, said that 'such a hike would be critical in the second quarter of this year, if we went to $100 a barrel in that period, you could see unleaded petrol at 110p a litre.' Average prices this weekend were 95p a litre.

The stand-off with Iran is one of several factors that could cause a significant supply disruption. Ethnic and tribal disputes in Nigeria have resulted in the loss of 500,000 barrels a day. Output in Iraq, potentially the world's second-largest exporter, is still well below pre-war levels. There are also concerns among traders about supplies from Venezuela and Russia because of internal politics.

High prices have advanced rapidly up the political agenda in the US, where Republicans are trailing in the polls ahead of mid-term elections. Republican senators led by majority leader Bill Frist, have proposed a series of measures including the repeal of tax incentives to oil companies intended to make them invest in the Gulf of Mexico and measures to increase refinery capacity.

The issue has also prompted a return to the debate over opening up the unspoilt Arctic National Wildlife Refuge in Alaska to drilling by oil companies.

President Bush also called for an investigation into possible price manipulation, and for new deposits into the US strategic petroleum reserve to cease.
 

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It matters not that only a few states have a 55 MPH limit, the message is cut back, keep the gas in the oil companies tanks and they will have to sell for less, even if it is only a few cent cheaper per liter.
 

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Gas prices up. So are scams.

Simple devices and fuel additives proven effective at taking money from the gullible, do nothing for mileage.
By Peter Valdes-Dapena, CNNMoney.com staff writer
May 3, 2006: 2:57 PM EDT



NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) - It costs less than $40 and, according to its Web site marketing, it will raise your vehicle's fuel economy by 30 percent or more. Customers swear by it in testimonials.

Whatever it is, your best bet is to keep your credit card in your wallet.

Whenever gas prices spike, such product pitches spike as well, said Claudia Bourne Farrell, a spokeswoman for the Federal Trade Commission, the government agency responsible for investigating bogus marketing claims.

"More people than you'd probably think" get taken in by bogus claims of big fuel savings with simple devices, Bourne Farrell said.

This time around is no different. And all these come-ons should set off that "yeah, right" alarm in your head.

For example, car companies develop gas-electric hybrid systems costing thousands of dollars to achieve fuel-efficiency improvements...but you just got an e-mail saying you can do it just by installing a tiny fan inside a hose. ("Yeah, right.")

Gasoline companies spend millions of dollars on research and development...but they somehow missed this enzyme that could provide a 30 percent increase in fuel economy. ("Yeah, right.")

Alas, the age of simple solutions is over, said John Millett, a spokesman for the Environmental Protection Agency. "If it worked that well, wouldn't your engine be that way, wouldn't the gas be that way, already?" he said.

In decades past, said Millett, a few novelty devices the EPA tested actually did provide some increase in fuel mileage. But often, those small increases came at the expense of damage to the engine or an increase in harmful exhaust emissions.

Those technologies that did provide a benefit - for example, a device that shut off the air conditioner compressor when the car was idling - have long since been incorporated into virtually every new car built

Looking legit

Many companies will go to great lengths to make their products seem legitimate. Many alleged fuel-saving compounds are sold with the message that they are "registered with the EPA" or "approved by the EPA."

That only means that the EPA has accepted paperwork filed by the manufacturer and, based on that paperwork, decided that the fuel additive was no more harmful to the environment than gasoline. It doesn't mean that the EPA found it to be effective. In many cases, the seller may not even have done that much and may simply be lying.

The EPA tests very few new devices that claim to save fuel. The EPA will only test a device if the manufacturer specifically requests it or if the FTC requests the test to back up an enforcement action.

Copies of the EPA's test results are posted on the agency's Web site. Overall, those results support the idea that consumers should approach alleged fuel-saving devices with, at the very least, a great deal of caution, said Millet. None of the devices tested produced appreciable fuel economy gains, he said.

Some concepts -- such as magnet-based devices and devices that go into the vehicle's air intake system -- have already been proven ineffective and would no longer even warrant testing, Millett said.

Just last year, the FTC got an injunction against one company that used e-mail marketing to sell a magnetic device that, the company said, would improve mileage by 27 percent. (The manufacturer in that case, while accepting the injunction, denied any wrongdoing in court documents.)

Similar cases are in the works, Bourne Farrell Said.
 

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Yes, we can do something about gas prices.

Yesterday the price of gasoline was $1.21 per liter. The price will go down at this point till the week end, and then it will go up because of demand for gas in the week end and holidays coming. We can keep the gas in their tanks till we need it, that is how we can keep the prices down.
The world price for oil does have an effect on gasoline prices, but so does supply and demand in the region and even in the area where the gasoline is sold. If your local gas station is low on gas in their tanks and they do not expect a delivery till the end of next week, then they will raise the prices to slow sales in order not to run out. If the tanks are full at the station and they expect a delivery soon, they will lower the prices to get rid of inventory.
We can slow the demand and increase the supply of gas by keeping it in the oil companies tanks. Buy your gas near the begging or the middle of the week when prices are lower, and buy as little as possible as you need at other times.
If we have no concern over gas prices then you can expect to see the prices at $1.21 or higher in the future. By spiking prices once in a while, the oil companies are just trying to desesitized us to the higher prices.
 

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Wait until next week...construction holiday. The prices will probably go way up as the gas companies know they can screw us even more and of course they will give the excuse of increased demand. What's amazing is that with the demand for computers higher that ever, the prices keep going down and the systems keep getting faster. Supply and demand my ass.
 

General Gonad

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Ethanol is the solution...

I tried blending some corn to put in my gas tank but so far I ain't getting extra mileage!:p
 

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General Gonad said:
I tried blending some corn to put in my gas tank but so far I ain't getting extra mileage!:p

I tried that once but the damn kernals kept blocking the gas line.:p
 

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The gas companies want you to think that high gas prices are here to stay, so you may as well bend over and spead your cheeks for them.
Micro-economics are at work, when the holidays are over the prices will drop again, we can help the prices down by keeping the gas in their tanks.
Every little bit helps. Do not drive around with a full tank, your just paying to tranport weight.
 

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When are we going to start boycotting for real?According to certain gas sites we are suppose to boycott Shell and Esso because they are the biggest and are the first ones to jack up the price..Then the price wars will really start.I notice people are paying with their gas credit cards because they have no cash and live week to week,but drive new cars on finance and buy their groceries on credit cards as well.They probably charge their massages on credit cards as well.I know I,m off the subject ,sorry.Go ahead,charge me.
 

General Gonad

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Geopolitical tensions drive oil prices

Forget what you've read about supply and demand. The truth is that geopolitical tensions drive oil prices and the latest war in Lebanon is wreaking havoc in that region, propelling oil prices to record highs.

>>Nooky is right, gas stations are rarely the problem. In some rare cases, owners have tried price gouging but this is risky.

GG

P.S. Make sure you have a full tank, even at these prices. If Iran gets involved in the war, prices will skyrocket higher.
 
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