GEISHA's owner/Agencies attitude problem!!!!!

[kill_shill]

This is from there daily who's on listing..

I think there comments are a bit harsh/rude/arrogant/disrespectful and even down right insulting against distinguished merb members and other reputable escort agencies....

He's even calling the merb website corrupted but yet is doing his advertising here..lol

Maybe its just me what do you all think?

Maybe Sir Kevin should tone it down a bit....

And... If an AGENCY takes advantage of their private website to offer you FREE HOURS either on the form of a phony contest or directly for publishing (I'd say more CREATING, INVENTING) wonderful reviews here on merb on their girls or trashing other agencies and girls, communicate with us on private and tell us about the whole thing. Now it's the time we assemble all the info. It's a racket, and the only winner at the end is not the girl, neither you. There is a limit one cannot cross when trying to fuck with the system... Ever wondered why some really good agencies never get any reviews here? Or ever wondered why some agencies ALWAYS GET REVIEWS even with girls that were absolute nullity elsewhere before?

What's the point of advertising on merb if it's CORRUPTED TO THE BONE by some sneaky and money hungry nobodies who have to hide behind close doors to do there shitty and dishonnest business based on false representation? What's the point if being an old member having a lot of post here means you can be bought and then abuse the credibility of naïve new members? Think about it... You are hungry for sex and don't have big money reservoirs, you have a lot of posts here on merb, you become a CORRUPTED merb member... You don't have to pay anymore for the girls that come to your place, you just write reviews to generate business to chummy... Scratch my back, I'll scratch yours...

Who wants to support dishonnest people? If they were to succeed in their project of grabing all the market, which will not happen ( ) They would then be dishonnest with you, don't you think so? A MF remains a MF wherever and whenever he breathes.

 

[lgna69xxx]

i dont have a problem with it at all, have you seen there girls?!?! besides everyones entitled to his/her opinon, and Kevin seems to be trying to run a good operation...... i'd worry more about the availability of the sweet ladies he has than a few words you find offensive......... if i'm wrong, well then im wrong, and thats "YOUR" opinon and your very well entitled to it

 

[Voyager]

k_s,

What do you want Kevin to "tone down" down on his own website? I happen to mostly agree with him.

Maybe it isn`t as obvious to you, and please don`t tell anyone, but there are shills here on MERB & the other boards!! I know, I know... how could I say such a thing!

We all know there are members that get discounts & freebies for posting reviews, and some have even posted about it. There are girls & agencies that post their own reviews, just check the suspension & shill threads. Also, when the truth comes out, agencies/girls can request a NRP and poof! the bad reviews disappear. There are boards like TER (that charge a fee for VIP membership) that give/extend membership for reviews, which IMHO encourage fake reviews since there is a monetary gain to post lots of reviews.

I`ve seen ads for agencies blatantly offering discounts after a client posts reviews (ie. kickbacks). I do not include those that offer contests, etc. as nothing is expected in return except that you use their agency.

Kevin`s reference to MERB is correct... what would be the point of MERB if all of the reviews were suspect? If the Mods weren`t doing their job of shill-detecting, along with some members , the shills would ruin this place.

The funny thing is, Kevin didn`t come to MERB to complain. He used his own website. What was your motivation to bring it up here... you don`t agree with him that there are shills?

Regards,

Voyager

 

[kill_shill]

k_s,

What do you want Kevin to "tone down" down on his own website? I happen to mostly agree with him.

Maybe it isn`t as obvious to you, and please don`t tell anyone, but there are shills here on MERB & the other boards!! I know, I know... how could I say such a thing!

We all know there are members that get discounts & freebies for posting reviews, and some have even posted about it. There are girls & agencies that post their own reviews, just check the suspension & shill threads. Also, when the truth comes out, agencies/girls can request a NRP and poof! the bad reviews disappear. There are boards like TER (that charge a fee for VIP membership) that give/extend membership for reviews, which IMHO encourage fake reviews since there is a monetary gain to post lots of reviews.

I`ve seen ads for agencies blatantly offering discounts after a client posts reviews (ie. kickbacks). I do not include those that offer contests, etc. as nothing is expected in return except that you use their agency.

Kevin`s reference to MERB is correct... what would be the point of MERB if all of the reviews were suspect? If the Mods weren`t doing their job of shill-detecting, along with some members , the shills would ruin this place.

The funny thing is, Kevin didn`t come to MERB to complain. He used his own website. What was your motivation to bring it up here... you don`t agree with him that there are shills?

Regards,

Voyager

I bring it up cause its the first time I actually took the time to read what he wrote when he does his daily advertising of his girls who are working on merb website. I found his tone and use of words very aggressive.

It gives an impression that he`s angry at everyone out there who uses merb and advertises on the site.

It also gives an impression that we are all shills and all agencies are phonies who take advantage of the girls and custumers.

I just think its overdone on his part thats all, especially cause he reposts it every day.. I mean just post your availabilities and get over it, we all know there are shills on the board, lets not get pissed of about it.

 

[CS Martin]

******editted************

 

[Merlot]

k_s,

What do you want Kevin to "tone down" down on his own website? I happen to mostly agree with him.

Maybe it isn`t as obvious to you, and please don`t tell anyone, but there are shills here on MERB & the other boards!! I know, I know... how could I say such a thing!

We all know there are members that get discounts & freebies for posting reviews, and some have even posted about it. There are girls & agencies that post their own reviews, just check the suspension & shill threads. Also, when the truth comes out, agencies/girls can request a NRP and poof! the bad reviews disappear. There are boards like TER (that charge a fee for VIP membership) that give/extend membership for reviews, which IMHO encourage fake reviews since there is a monetary gain to post lots of reviews.

I`ve seen ads for agencies blatantly offering discounts after a client posts reviews (ie. kickbacks). I do not include those that offer contests, etc. as nothing is expected in return except that you use their agency.

Kevin`s reference to MERB is correct... what would be the point of MERB if all of the reviews were suspect? If the Mods weren`t doing their job of shill-detecting, along with some members , the shills would ruin this place.

The funny thing is, Kevin didn`t come to MERB to complain. He used his own website. What was your motivation to bring it up here... you don`t agree with him that there are shills?

Regards,

Voyager

Well Voyager,

I don`t care where Kevin is saying it, if he is talking about Merb then it`s Merb`s business. How can you say it`s otherwise, considering the fact that he is implying everyone here is "corrupted". Just because he is hiding behind the word "if" doesn`t mean we don`t know exactly what he is saying. So why are you questioning the right of the members here to reply when he is attacking all of us. Since he has been so blatantly and openly accusatory he must have known this would be argued on Merb and that was probably his exact intention.

We are all fully aware there are shady things going on in this hobby because unfortunately schemers and parasites filter into this business like flies to honey. But for Kevin to condemn everyone, and that includes you too unless you received some direct absolution from him, is despicable and indicates some sort of desperation. I don`t know anything about Geisha, but I sure don`t like or trust a person who goes after everyone, and this sort of manner displayed by Kevin indicates to me that he doesn`t have the kind of sense that would make me want to do business with him, and that there may be issues there that make his agency something to avoid. I have never given any opinion about Geisha before and I have not read much of anything about them to have even formed an opinion of them. But by making a public statement like this, not caring who he accuses, Kevin is being his own worst enemy.

V,
Great post. Could it be Kevin is just playing the role of the outsider to set his operation apart from all the other hustlers? Standard advertising method when the market get too full of competitors.

No, not unless being a total jerk is good business. Maybe he does want free advertising by creating a controversy through a thread like this. But a lot of it is going to be negative. I just checked the website looking for this insulting commentary and it`s one of the slickest looking agency websites I have ever seen. But, in view of his comments the perception for me is of a CUTTHROAT! Is that what he intended. Maybe not. If these tactics indicate the kind of business dealing I can expect from him then ...AVOID ...AVOID ...AVOID!

ish,

Merlot

 

[Voyager]

Excuse me?

But for Kevin to condemn everyone, and that includes you too unless you received some direct absolution from him

I expect you, Merlot, to explain exactly what you mean by the above-quoted statement. If you have an accusation to make, I dare you to make it and back it up! If not, I expect a retraction & apology.

I didn't start this thread, I responded to it. I didn't mince words, I mentioned no MERB member names (although I could have), no agency names (we all know who they are), no Indy names...

Anyone want to take bets on the outcome?

Voyager

 

[Mod 8]

A friendly warning.

Be careful everyone!

I am allowing this thread to remain open for the time being. But if anyone makes any accusations against any other member or agency in regards to shilling they better be willing to back it up with iron clad proof!

Any accusations of shill in this thread will be met with an immediate and very long suspension.

If anyone has any information they would like to share about possible shills beyond the usual witch hunting, they are welcome to PM a moderator and we will look into it. Other than that, any insinuation that shills are permitted to run rampant on this board will be met with stern action.

If anyone makes an accusation here, they better be ready to prove it.

Mod 8

 

[benxxx]

i made a comment about this fact a couple weeks ago.https://merb.cc/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=393860&postcount=3
but since no one answered back then i figured i was the only one bothered by this.

btw, this doesn`t appear on the geisha website, but on the advertisement section of merb...

it seems like an attempt at branding themself as the new righteous outfit in town,that wish to expose the "evildoers" or "bad apples" to bring justice and fairness to the good people of Merbcity. But to me, this comes across as propaganda (i know the word is a little strong...) to discredit other agencies and cast doubt about the validity of the reviews they recieve.

it`s true that they can`t be accused of encouraging shill reviews...since there`s next to no reviews of their girls found on merb. i should know... i searched for them.

But the fact that a well established agency recieves lots of reviews and that another don`t can`t be taken as a sure indication that the former uses unfair tactics...

-Look, they all got bunch of great reviews, and not us... that proves that they all are dishonest MF

 

[Regular Guy]

The True Meaning

But for Kevin to condemn everyone, and that includes you too unless you received some direct absolution from him, is despicable and indicates some sort of desperation.

MOD
Not to play fovourites here but IMHO it would be a bit of a stretch to find an accusation in this statement. The statement simply includes V in the general pool of targets which is the MERB membership. The qualifier concerning absolution is simply expressing that the only way he could not be a member (and I assume that applies to yours truly, for example) would be under conditions similar to what was described. We simply have to read carefully what is written here on MERB. I have seen this happen before where offense is taken where none was intended.

 

[Mod 8]

Clarification

Just to clarify: My post was not directed at Merlot in particular. I find nothing objectionable in Merlot's post. It was a general warning to all posters.

I have also edited Geisha's original advertising post in which the above posted quote was made. This type of posting in an advertising thread is unacceptable and will be met with consequences if repeated. An advertising post is for advertising the services of the agency or provider who is making the post. It is not a free forum to make accusations against other agencies or against MERB and it's members in a section of the board where they can not respond. Unfortunately this post slipped by the mods when it was made or it would have been removed immediately.

Repeat behavior of this type by any agency in the advertising Forum will be met with severe repercussions. If you have something to say, post it where all members can respond to you.

Mod 8

 

[misunderstood]

I don't see any reason why some members would be so sensitive about this....

Like they say..........if the shoe fits........

 

[Regular Guy]

I don't see any reason why some members would be so sensitive about this....

Like they say..........if the shoe fits........

Sensitive about what?

 

[Mod 8]

I don't see any reason why some members would be so sensitive about this....

Like they say..........if the shoe fits........

Do you have something to share? Some proof perhaps to back up your insinuation? Did you actually read my warning about continuing with unfounded accusations in this thread? No? Well now you have a month to catch up on your reading.

Mod 8

 

[benxxx]

wow! i know i probably shouldn't be questioning mods decisions... but to me this comment could barely be interprated as an insinuation, maybe someone just got misunderstood...

 

[Regular Guy]

A death wish!

wow! i know i probably shouldn't be questioning mods decisions... but to me this comment could barely be interprated as an insinuation, maybe someone just got misunderstood...

Well the elephant in the room was the fact that Voyager was under the impression that the wording of a comment insinuated that he had something going with Kevin which in retrospect, we saw was in error. That got everyone stirred up including the MOD on duty. At that point the prudent thing would be for everyone to walk away clean. My first impression was that by making this comment misunderstood must have had some kind of death wish. Maybe she felt it was getting too quiet on this thread and she wanted to stir up the hornet's nest and have some fun. Her comment was bound to be interpreted as an attack against Voyager. I don't think I could have done a better job at getting banned.

 

[kill_shill]

I'm happy to see that the mods have removed the bashing posts by Kevin on his daily "MERB ADVERTISING".

This sort of tactic should not be tolerated and I agree with the mods quick reaction.

Kevin has a top notch website, along with nice girls.. he should keep the focus on that.

 

[benxxx]

point of view

you are right...what misunderstood was saying was just to treat voyageur (in a subtle way) of shilling..by saying that the "shill" shoes seems to fit with him

i didn't see it that way at first...

when he said ...sensitive about IT, to me the IT stood for the subject of the thread: Kevin's post. And since V seemed in accord with it, i didn't see him as targeted by M... i took it as a broader comment about anyone who would feel threatened by kevin's statement, and not an accusation to a particular individual.

maybe i'm the one that misinterpretated this as something more harmless than what it was intented to be, but it's still a mater of interpretation.

 

[Voyager]

Voyager was under the impression that the wording of a comment insinuated that he had something going with Kevin which in retrospect, we saw was in error.

RG,

I'm not sure how you can say "we saw was in error" since Merlot hasn't explained/refined/re-interpreted or retracted his original statement, or provided proof to back it up, at least in public! (there are PMs from him, but I'd get banned if I made them public)

As far as Misunderstood... she chose to challenge the Mod, and also has the opportuntiy to provide proof to back up her insinuation.

I know that most think that Merlot was clever enough with what he said, but everyone knows what he meant. Since when does the accuser determine whether the accused is offended? Would you walk away if you were accused?

Voyager

 

[Regular Guy]

Collective "you"

RG,

I'm not sure how you can say "we saw was in error" since Merlot hasn't explained/refined/re-interpreted or retracted his original statement, or provided proof to back it up, at least in public! (there are PMs from him, but I'd get banned if I made them public)

As far as Misunderstood... she chose to challenge the Mod, and also has the opportuntiy to provide proof to back up her insinuation.

I know that most think that Merlot was clever enough with what he said, but everyone knows what he meant. Since when does the accuser determine whether the accused is offended? Would you walk away if you were accused?

Voyager

But for Kevin to condemn everyone, and that includes you too unless you received some direct absolution from him, is despicable and indicates some sort of desperation.

Okay let's look at the above by clarifying the statement, “But for Kevin to condemn everyone (meaning all members of merb) and that includes you too (you, me, everybody in merb) unless you received some direct absolution from him (the collective you – in other words anyone in merb could be exempted if they happened to have something going with Kevin) is despicable and indicates some sort of desperation.

There is no question in my mind as to the sense of the statement. Now I can understand in a discussion which is heating up we become more sensitive and on guard against personal slights. But for me as a bystander the meaning was absolutely clear.