As non-Canadian, I found CBSA at airports asking more questions than land crossing. This was before NEXUS.
Global Entry, Nexus, or Sentri?
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ALWAYS expect this to happen..not only in Canada, but globally
In 2016, at the Plattsburgh crossing, the # 2 agent was about to ask me to unlock my cellphone..
Being prepared, I knew to create a diversion. The # 1 asked me why I was wearing a Ottawa Senators jersey ? I told him because Ottawa didn't suck as much as the Canadiens did that season !
They busted out laughing, and said OK..we are done with you..enjoy your weekend ( never finding or asking about the 100 Cialis in my luggage )
Best Regards
Smuler
My friend turned me on to the show “Border Security:Canada’s Front Line”. After watching the show you will get a pretty good idea as to why border agents ask the questions they do.
As far as crossing the border (any border IMHO) you should never have your personal cellphone or laptop. 20 Year’s ago your phone had phone numbers in it. Nowadays many of us have their entire lives on them. If I’m bringing an iPhone laptop or IPad I make sure it’s nuked (wiped clean/reset) before I cross the border. If I’m asked to hand over my phone it’s not an issue and if asked why there is nothing on it I simply would say for privacy reasons.
As far as crossing the border (any border IMHO) you should never have your personal cellphone or laptop. 20 Year’s ago your phone had phone numbers in it. Nowadays many of us have their entire lives on them. If I’m bringing an iPhone laptop or IPad I make sure it’s nuked (wiped clean/reset) before I cross the border. If I’m asked to hand over my phone it’s not an issue and if asked why there is nothing on it I simply would say for privacy reasons.
Dumb question, but is clearing as simple as going to settings on your iPhone, clicking Safari and then selecting clear all? Couldn’t they retrieve old texts, browsing sessions another way?
Also, for those who went through secondary searches, do you think having a couple generic viagra tablets (purchased in Cancun at airport) would be an issue or prompt suspicion going into Canada since there is no formal prescription? They look like Viagra and I carry a US online prescription from mail order from 3 years ago, so I could hold that up
I’ve been to Montreal dozens of times w/o incident upon entering or leaving. I was just there this past weekend and want to fly back in 3 weeks, anyone think that will raise suspicion?
Would welcome any thoughts. Thanks
You need to clear all contacts in Quebec, as they will ask you who they are
Clear all suspicious websites before you go
Clear your browsing data..
If you have friends in Montreal, tell them not to call you after you leave. You will call them when you arrive
Even better, bring a cheap burner phone, just to do calls and texts
Without your Viagra in a bottle WITH YOUR NAME ON IT, you're asking for trouble
I remember a mention of you travelling internationally as well..well, same rules apply in those trips
Good luck on your future trip..
Best Regards
Smuler
Clear all suspicious websites before you go
Clear your browsing data..
If you have friends in Montreal, tell them not to call you after you leave. You will call them when you arrive
Even better, bring a cheap burner phone, just to do calls and texts
Without your Viagra in a bottle WITH YOUR NAME ON IT, you're asking for trouble
I remember a mention of you travelling internationally as well..well, same rules apply in those trips
Good luck on your future trip..
Best Regards
Smuler
of course it can.... back so soon? etc. they can poke you just to see how you answer.
wow, i have probably cut through bishhop over a dozen times in 3 years, my phone and computer have years of 'content'...
i thought any customs was about illegal food and drugs. and TSA was about bombs and testing for just power on of your electronic devices.
customs never checked my stuff upon arrival into canada via bishop
god damn, this is worrisome. i was thinking of doing more driving than flyin in the future, and i do not want to wipe away my whole phone, shit this sucks.
I know what you mean dude, but trust me it’s not worth it. Just back everything up on your computer at home and restore everything when you get home if you want.
I’d answer that I had a fun time a few weeks ago and it’s worth the 55 minute flight, cheap air fare and great exchange rate. My record is squeaky clean. Is there any issue officer?
I just have to wonder...how much surfing are they going to do on my computer? Since escorting is legal than why should they care what I have on my computer? I have never cleared my message before going into Canada or Germany or Brazil or anywhere else. Maybe I should start? Maybe delete the Yahoo mail app and Google app off my phone and go to the hotel and download them? I'm certainly not going to dilute anything when going into Europe. WTF should I? Prostitution is legal there.
I think I will stick to the casino excuse when I show up in Montreal. I get tight-lipped and mono-syllabic when going through security.
I think I will stick to the casino excuse when I show up in Montreal. I get tight-lipped and mono-syllabic when going through security.
Hungry, I never even anticipated any issue going through Customs until I started reading these posts on Merb. Lol. Reading Merb posts on this subject is kind of like reading Web MD and thinking you got every disease under the sun. I’ve flown in to Montreal dozens of times and waltzed right through without even considering there might be a trap. I simply say I’m here for tourism and to check out some jazz bands and restaurants. Then they ask where I’m staying. And then I walk right through. But after reading some of these posts I Nove wonder if my 2 viagra tablets are at risk (lol) and if I should delete my texts with agencies before approaching an officer. I’ve never had one issue other than a few extended questions when driving up when I said I might look up a female friend which was true. I probably looked annoyed at the time (5 or 6 years ago) like “why the fuck are we playing 20 questions when I’m meeting Tessa from Good girls in 3 hours?” Best advice. Short sweet answers. Stay composed and polite. I probably should delete escort related texts but even then, barring graphic language, it’s not necessarily illegal to communicate with an agency. It just opens up a can of worms, and I hate drama
Good point SSJ. However, both things may be true. You could be there for tourist activities and have a shoulder massage scheduled with a hot Euphoria girl on the side. The latter is not inconsistent with a “tourism” agenda. You’re point is well taken, however. Best to delete the texts to avoid any BS. I will say this. Even if caught with texts or escort websites in your history, you’d have to be having a pretty miserable day to be sent on the next flight back. Yes, it has happened but that’s rare and you’d have to be perceived as quite deceptive for that to happen. Chances are they’re not turning you around because they found you got a text from Sam or James. There would need to be other deception and for them to think you’re being an uncooperative dick. Again, best advice is to stay polite and composed. They want to let you in more than they want to send you back, even if they suspect you’re there to hobby, as long as you cooperate without revealing you’re there to break the law. But if they see a text in which you are asking if a girl does anal, you probably don’t have a leg to stand on. Lol.
Patron, you are 100% correct. There isn’t as much due process, which is why agents can search your phone or bags without a warrant. That said, generally speaking, the vast majority of custom agents are not looking to be dicks and turn you away because they SUSPECT you might be banging Melissa at Euphoria. When they’re playing 20 questions with a solo male traveler, the traveler is thinking “he knows I’m here to hobby.” The agent is thinking “I want to make sure this guy isn’t running heroin, working in Canada illegally, trafficking kids, bringing in guns, etc.”. They’re looking for real crimes. If hobbying activities are discovered it’s because someone is being ornery, dishonest or careless. Just my opinion.
This exactly. They don’t need to prove you are commiting a crime. If you not a Canadian citizen, you can be declared inadmissible for various reasons. While it may not stick when challenged in court, CBSA knows you are unlikely to challenge it if they suspect you are here to see escorts.
Except they still need to enforce the laws of Canada. While they may not be specifically targeting enforcement resources on johns, if you were sent to secondary for priority enforcement areas such as the ones you listed and they search your electronics and see evidence of seeing an escort, they will declare you inadmissible. You can challenge it in court that you were incorrectly declared inadmissible because you were intending to book an escort merely for dinner but CBSA knows you won’t spend the money to do so and, in the process, drag your own name thru the mud.
If you want, you can challenge the CBSA decision at PoE instead of returning to country of origin, but you then will have to wait for a court date in a detention centre. CBSA knows 99 out of 100 mongers will not opt for that. Lol. There is really no downside (political, financial etc) for CBSA to send foreigners back to point of origin if they suspect they are seeing escorts.
Once you have been declared inadmissible, you can expect secondary inspection on future attempts to enter Canada for quite some time.
Bottom line is you should remove all incriminating/suggestive content on your electronics if you want to enter Canada for this hobby and you are not a Canadian citizen.
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