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I have Global Entry and it’s been awesome having it..I know that if I want to get Nexus my Global Entry gets canceled and I can just use the Nexus. The only thing holding me back is the interview process with CBP. I’m paranoid that they will grill me about all my visits to Montreal.

CBP doesn't care or know you were in Montreal. All they know is you entered/returned thru YUL on your way to Vancouver, London, Paris, Toronto etc. Now if you have Cuba or Pakistan, Afghanistan and other places US consider hotspots on the application, then then they will want to know more about it.

If you want to stick with going to Montreal, it would be for the same reason we all go; food scene, hockey; festivals.; Grand Prix.
 

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I have Global Entry and it’s been awesome having it..I know that if I want to get Nexus my Global Entry gets canceled and I can just use the Nexus. The only thing holding me back is the interview process with CBP. I’m paranoid that they will grill me about all my visits to Montreal.

The interview process is just a formality. They basically tell you how to use your NEXUS privileges and have your eye scanned.
 

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If you have an iPhone it takes about 5 minutes to restore your phone after it’s been wiped clean. Just remember to back up your phone before you reset it and your good to go. Very easy and simple, I do it all the time.

I find that going through the phone and deleting apps, browser history, texts, calls, etc. individually is a pain in the ass and it’s very easy to miss something. I prefer to simply reset the phone.

If asked about the phone and it’s lack of information I would say that it is used for travel. You don’t have to have thousands of photos, videos, texts, social media accounts etc. on your phone if you don’t want to. Sure, it may look suspicious, but if you use the phone for traveling it’s not suspicious at all.
 

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I have Global Entry and it’s been awesome having it..I know that if I want to get Nexus my Global Entry gets canceled and I can just use the Nexus. The only thing holding me back is the interview process with CBP. I’m paranoid that they will grill me about all my visits to Montreal.

Is it still okay if we grill you about your visits to Montreal? :eyebrows:
 

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Some of you actually use the real agency name in your directory or save past texts with escorts or agencies?

yes - i am single and dont have any worry about anyone personally searching my phone for text messages. my only concern is being barred entry into Canada from the USA if they search my phone and see escort numbers and texts.
 

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yes - i am single and dont have any worry about anyone personally searching my phone for text messages. my only concern is being barred entry into Canada from the USA if they search my phone and see escort numbers and texts.

First they are more concerned on terrorism and researched criminal than anything else. Second, remember that in Canada prostitution is not illegal per se. Dealing with or requesting minors is criminal. Forcing someone is a rape and is criminal (even your wife). Offering money for sex exchange is criminal. So avoid (delete) having textos where you offer or inquire about money. Fixing a rendez-vous to meet someone (adult) is not against any law in Canada. There was a report on TV last week showing police officer visiting girls in Motel, telling them that they are not against them and that they should not hesitate to call police if they feel they are threatened by clients or pimps. If the police want to charge you, they should proove that you actually innitiated the deal by offering money. Visiting someone, having a good time, with or without sex, and leaving a gift (money in an enveloppe is the best way, no discussion about it) is ok. Be advise that sometimes police does entrapment with female police officer walking down the street... If you stop, engage conversation and try to conclude a deal (money) then you are in deep shit. Very soon (within seconds) a patrol car will appear and you will be arrested. Also I'm not 100% sure about this one but I read that they are only allowed to search what is actually on your phone so having a list of phone numbers stored on google drive or others cloud services is ok unless they have a subpoena and if so, you are allready in trouble and are allready indicted.

The "greatwaloo" advise is a good one: "If you have an iPhone it takes about 5 minutes to restore your phone after it’s been wiped clean. Just remember to back up your phone before you reset it and your good to go. Very easy and simple." It's the same with Android phones. An other option is to use an other phone with a prepaid card, bought in Canada. You can have those plans for as cheap as $12 a month (30 minutes) and if you pre-pay for 12 months, you get a discount and you accumulate your unused minutes. Of course you wipe out the criticals numbers and textos before going back to US. If you leave some numbers it won't look suspect (ex: restaurant or any others). Hope it's helping. Mind you, your phone may be investigated with or without Nexus. Play safe, play cool, stay legal.
 

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First they are more concerned on terrorism and researched criminal than anything else. Second, remember that in Canada prostitution is not illegal per se. Dealing with or requesting minors is criminal. Forcing someone is a rape and is criminal (even your wife). Offering money for sex exchange is criminal. So avoid (delete) having textos where you offer or inquire about money. Fixing a rendez-vous to meet someone (adult) is not against any law in Canada. There was a report on TV last week showing police officer visiting girls in Motel, telling them that they are not against them and that they should not hesitate to call police if they feel they are threatened by clients or pimps. If the police want to charge you, they should proove that you actually innitiated the deal by offering money. Visiting someone, having a good time, with or without sex, and leaving a gift (money in an enveloppe is the best way, no discussion about it) is ok. Be advise that sometimes police does entrapment with female police officer walking down the street... If you stop, engage conversation and try to conclude a deal (money) then you are in deep shit. Very soon (within seconds) a patrol car will appear and you will be arrested. Also I'm not 100% sure about this one but I read that they are only allowed to search what is actually on your phone so having a list of phone numbers stored on google drive or others cloud services is ok unless they have a subpoena and if so, you are allready in trouble and are allready indicted.

While I generally agree with your points, at the border, it's a different story; you are not dealing with the police. Unlike the police, CBSA does not have to build a case that survives a trial because it ain't going to trial.

If you are not Canadian and carrying a big bundle of cash and cell phone full of messages arranging a date with an escort, CBSA doesn't have to distinguish/prove your intent on whether you are meeting the escort for 3 hours at a museum or banging her in your hotel room.

They just need to see evidence of misrepresentation as in traveler told CBSA they are visiting Montreal to see a hockey game/festival etc but couldn't provide further details/ticket on hockey game/festival and instead was found carrying a big bundle of cash and SMS messages with escort agencies arranging dates coinciding with the traveler's duration of stay. To top of off, traveler declared staying 4 days to see hockey game but Habs are away for next two weeks. Lol.

You can go plead your case that your white lie is immaterial in affecting your admissibility into Canada but doing so may require waiting in a holding cell until your admissibility hearing or you can withdraw your application for entry into Canada (get sent on next flight home or turn around at a land border).

While you may eventually win in an admissibility hearing, would you rather risk putting yourself into such a situation or avoid it completely by wiping your phone to begin with (and having a good cover story)?

Not everyone at CBSA is out to get you but don't make it so obvious that they simply can't look the other way. Before I acquired NEXUS, I was in Toronto for business covered by NAFTA. The CBSA agent conducting secondary inspection reviewed my contract with my Canadian customer and asked me my reason for coming to Canada. I replied work (my first time in secondary). He then replied, if you are coming in under NAFTA, you should be in Canada "to install computer software." He then asked me again, what my reason for coming to Canada was to which I replied "to install computer software as per my sales contract." :bounce:
 

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A dumb question, but how do you wipe your phone clean and then restore content like photos? Second question - On an iPhone, if I go into settings, then Safari and then hit Clear website data and history, does that permanently remove my browser history so a border agent can’t find it? Thx
 

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i have no worry at all about being arrested and charged with anything. transatlantic correctly points out the issue and rules at the border are totally different. I want to protect myself against being denied entry.

i am actually thinking about keeping a second smartphone with different set of contacts (no montreal numbers) and wipe both text and call history. Meanwhile my regular smartphone will be packed in a bag
 

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A dumb question, but how do you wipe your phone clean and then restore content like photos? Second question - On an iPhone, if I go into settings, then Safari and then hit Clear website data and history, does that permanently remove my browser history so a border agent can’t find it? Thx

yes it does. i prefer to use firefox btw than safari. depending on the size of the iphone 32 64 128gb and how much stuff you have, those restores can take 20min.


i also dunno if lets say you wipe phone after backing it up, but use the phone during the hours that it takes to commmute into montreal and then into your lodging....

any accumulated content... text msgs, call logs... pics videos taken, i think are erased (not appended) once you connect phone back to Itunes and run a restore of the backup file into the iphone.
 

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yes - i am single and dont have any worry about anyone personally searching my phone for text messages. my only concern is being barred entry into Canada from the USA if they search my phone and see escort numbers and texts.

But instead of Jenny Indy could you not put aunt Jenny, instead of Euphoria call it Uptown cleaners. As for texts I clean all on a regular basis. I have a few agencies and some indies on my phone and unless you dial the number you would have no clue and no worries.
 

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i also dunno if lets say you wipe phone after backing it up, but use the phone during the hours that it takes to commmute into montreal and then into your lodging....

any accumulated content... text msgs, call logs... pics videos taken, i think are erased (not appended) once you connect phone back to Itunes and run a restore of the backup file into the iphone.

You are correct. If you nuke your iPhone and then bring it back to life later anything in between gets erased. I always try to back up my phone as late as possible to avoid this. Typically I will back up the phone before leaving the house (backups need to done via WiFi). If I’m flying I may back it up again before getting on the plane and then erasing it. If I’m driving, I’ll stop at a Starbucks and back it before I leave the USA.

Again, I take these precautions for privacy reasons. Years ago you would travel with a flip phone and it would have nothing on it. What you can have on your phone nowadays would be comparable to traveling with several file cabinets full of documents in the 90’s. Border agents have every right to make sure you belong in the country your traveling to, I Won’t give them a reason to bust my balls because I sent a text or browsed the web. And I’m certainly not going to let them look through my emails, notes, documents etc. saved on my phone or at the click of an app.
 

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i talked to a ontario provider who does a bit of travelling.... like between usa and canada, afew weeks ago. she said she knows her rights, 'they' aren't allowed to check your personal phone, you shouldn't feel obligated to hand it to them. We were in a loud area, so i don't recall if she was referring to... American customs agents while she visits usa, or canadians when she returns... or if it matters either way. She also says thanks to those sesta / whatever laws, the airports now know, linked to her passport shes' flagged for, i forget her terminology, again we were in a loud public area, but... as being a worker, etc.
 

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I have Global Entry and it’s been awesome having it..I know that if I want to get Nexus my Global Entry gets canceled and I can just use the Nexus. The only thing holding me back is the interview process with CBP. I’m paranoid that they will grill me about all my visits to Montreal.

I freggin would love to get nexus. really considered it 2yrs ago but last year or, enrolled in credit card that happened to have a GE fee reimbursement perk... i was like wtf, I'll get GE.... but still itching for NEXUS. so I"m like you, but does already having the GE make getting the Nexus process any easier?

Nexus is cheaper and BETTER.... for Canada visits... I wonder if there are any credit cards that reimburse NEXUS.

Getting Nexus though, kinda kills one of the perks of a GE fee reimbursed card though...
 

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i talked to a ontario provider who does a bit of travelling.... like between usa and canada, afew weeks ago. she said she knows her rights, 'they' aren't allowed to check your personal phone, you shouldn't feel obligated to hand it to them. We were in a loud area, so i don't recall if she was referring to... American customs agents while she visits usa, or canadians when she returns... or if it matters either way. She also says thanks to those sesta / whatever laws, the airports now know, linked to her passport shes' flagged for, i forget her terminology, again we were in a loud public area, but... as being a worker, etc.

If you refuse to give up your phone they can/will refuse your entry into the country. If your a citizen of that country they will eventually have to let you back in, but they will confiscate your phone, look through it and mail it to you in a few weeks. Your friend can be flagged for a lot of reasons, she may “know her rights” but at the end of the day why have anything with you that would bring this on.
 

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If you refuse to give up your phone they can/will refuse your entry into the country.

are you sure ?
yeah i wondered if it can be 'one of those' to which you gotta choose your poison... i should have asked at the time the ramifications of refusiing doesn't really help. win the battle but lose the war.

the most 'diffculty' i had one time was 'so if i look at your laptop I'm not going to find work related material' (i was like wow, this guy suspects i'm here for work lol). I said 'nope'.... and he let me go, he was just fcuking with me. but before this last squeeze, he had other annoying pokes at me, i forget what they were but i was taken only by how i didnt percieve him to be an ass when i got up to him.
 

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It has been well established from many sources both on this board and through many media reports what the rules are regarding refusal to let customs inspect your phone or PC:

If you are an american entering canada, or a canadian entering the USA, and you refuse to unlock your device, they will deny you entry.

If you are an american returning to the US, they can and will keep your device and try to unlock it themselves. They will detain you at the border, but they do have to let you in. You wont get your device back for weeks and they will probably make a copy of it before sending it back.

My understanding from folks on this board is that for canadians returning to canada it is pretty much the same.
 
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