Perhaps, he was.
I know that there will be another leader in his shoes shortly and then the Israelis and Palestinians can go back to their war. I have no truck, nor trade, with either of them.
Hamas & Israel
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I know that there will be another leader in his shoes shortly and then the Israelis and Palestinians can go back to their war. I have no truck, nor trade, with either of them.
He died like a rat, which is exactly what he deserved. He had been hiding behind civilians for a year in the tunnels below Gaza-tunnels built with money he stole from his own people, international organizations and Arab petro-states. The Israeli army cornered him in a civilian home and a soldier shot him in the head after he was wounded by a tank shell. One more terrorist rat exterminated.
Indeed, a Gaza civilian has reported to the BBC that Sinwar was killed in his house, and Sinwar was not his invited guest:
Gaza man says Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar was killed in his evacuated house - BBC News
The Israeli military released drone footage it said showed Sinwar in a partially destroyed house before he was killed.
www.bbc.com
"Never ever did me and my brothers and sons have anything to do with this," he said."
Mandouke, if I break into your house while you are away vacationing, and then get into a shootout with local police, does that make me a real man?
I have said what I wanted to say concerning him, have a nice day.
Ok. Let’s see if Israel wants peace.
The Hamas criminals are almost all dead.
A clean up in Lebanon would be a good thing in order of getting rid of the hezbollah extremist.
Now, Israel must immediately stop the illegal occupation and start a peace process with the Palestinians civil society.
I don’t think the majority of Palestinians are criminals. They want to leave in peace on their land.
Israel must stop the jewish extremism from spreading. Same thing for the illegal settlements and potential settlers.
This must stop now.
Hamas must be replaced with a peaceful political organization and put in charge under UN or a Israel friendly arabic country to prevent any violence.
Then, the 2 states solution will become the long term peace treaty.
The Hamas criminals are almost all dead.
A clean up in Lebanon would be a good thing in order of getting rid of the hezbollah extremist.
Now, Israel must immediately stop the illegal occupation and start a peace process with the Palestinians civil society.
I don’t think the majority of Palestinians are criminals. They want to leave in peace on their land.
Israel must stop the jewish extremism from spreading. Same thing for the illegal settlements and potential settlers.
This must stop now.
Hamas must be replaced with a peaceful political organization and put in charge under UN or a Israel friendly arabic country to prevent any violence.
Then, the 2 states solution will become the long term peace treaty.
The neighbors signed peace treaties with Israel. Except Saudi Arabia, wich is very eager to do so, all of the middle eastern countries signed many treaties with Israel. Yes, i know Algeria and Syria didn’t. But they are not major players.
When Israel will stop establishing illegal settlements on Palestinian land, peace talks leading to a 2 states solution will take care of the leftovers islamist criminals.
Snakejack, if it was that simple they would figure it all out very quickly.
Hezbollah/Iran has been trying to assassinate Netanyahu, who is supposedly holed up in a billionaire friend's atomic shelter. They sent a drone at Netanyahu's house, but blew up another one next door, and Netanyahu wasn't home anyway.
I agree with you that Israel has had a problem reigning in the religious right and their foreign policy is unfortunately disproportionately beholden to this significant minority. A change in leadership in Israel is necessary to get the ball rolling on the reign in, but it's not as simple as you would think. They hold more political power than they should.
Hezbollah/Iran has been trying to assassinate Netanyahu, who is supposedly holed up in a billionaire friend's atomic shelter. They sent a drone at Netanyahu's house, but blew up another one next door, and Netanyahu wasn't home anyway.
I agree with you that Israel has had a problem reigning in the religious right and their foreign policy is unfortunately disproportionately beholden to this significant minority. A change in leadership in Israel is necessary to get the ball rolling on the reign in, but it's not as simple as you would think. They hold more political power than they should.
Dunno about Algeria, but Syria is willing if they return the Golan Heights and move forward with the 2 states solution. If they want peace, they can have it. They have practically killed all known leaders, so it is the right time to call it a victory and move on with peace. I am certain though that this madman will not. There will always be something or someone. He makes non distinction between peace, and surrendering. The first brings real peace, the second only some rest between rounds.
It makes no difference at all.
There are so many to fill his shoes sadly.
The hatred and killing will never stop, you do not forgive or forget your relatives, children being murdered on both sides because of one man or even a short period of calm and peace.
The hatred on both sides is so deep rooted it will be there way beyond our life time.
It will take generations if ever to resolve.
Human history does not support this point of view. Otherwise, hundreds of conflicts would still be going across Europe and elsewhere. Conflicts eventually die with decisive victory of one side or changing of the geopolitical reality and new generations unwillingness to sacrifice themselves for some blood feud of their ancestors.
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Yes they die but it takes generations. Nobody talks or cares about the Roman Empire or Attila the Hun or even the Ottoman Empire and all did their fare share of killing.
You really think hatred has died in the Balkans, between Turkey and Greece, Hungary and Romania.I can name you many more.
How many people living today had anything to do with the holocaust, has that died, have people forgotten and I am not saying they should luckily I will never know what it is like to live through those type of atrocities.
What is happening in the Middle East will not die in our life time for sure and possibly not in our children’s either.
Sorry for the lengthy post but it is needed to clarify my points.
Yes, there is definitely no love lost between Hungary and Romania and Turkey and Greece, but there is no any appetite for the armed conflict either and the relations has been mostly peaceful for quite a long time. The situation in the Middle East is specific as the conflict has been mostly fueled by external actors. USSR support for the Palestinian armed conflict was part of its proxy war with the West. Thousands of Palestinian terrorists have been trained in special camps in the USSR and Est Germany and have been indoctrinated correspondingly. This indoctrination persists in their collective psyche especially of their leaders. Even today Russia is maintaining contacts with Hamas and supports Hezbollah with arms and training. In the past, neighboring Arab countries were doing the same. However, there is no love lost between Palestinians and neighboring Arab countries now. Palestinian refugees instigated a short but very bloody civil war in Jordan at the beginning of 70s. They were instrumental and very ruthless in the brutal Lebanon civil war in 80’s. Kuwait still remembers atrocities of Palestinian refugees during Sadam’s invasion in 90’s. They paid their hosts for providing food and shelter by murdering hundreds and robbing thousands of Kuwaitis. Kuwait immediately expelled all two hundred thousand Palestinian refugees after the war. There is no love lost between Palestinians and Egypt either. Egypt closed the border with Gaza permanently because Hamas supported and participated in armed gangs of Muslim Brotherhood terrorising Sinai. Now, most of the Arab countries want to normalize relations with Israel. Russia is busy with Ukraine and is diminished in power. The primary support for the armed conflict is provided now by Iran. But it probably will dry soon. Without external support from “sponsors” and a limited and controlled monetary assistance from international institutions the appetite for the armed conflict will die. I suspect that Palestinians will soon understand that economical and cultural development is more sure way to statehood than futile armed struggle and terrorism.
My sincere hope is that the succession of horrible, terrorist leaders the Palestinians have had, and the hardships that those leaders deliberately and with great intent forced the Palestinians to endure, will cause a large segment of their population to smell
the coffee and realize how they have been manipulated pawns sacrificed for improper agendas. It's been almost 80 years now of lost wars, economic stagnation and regression, and extreme hardships born out of futile armed struggle and terrorism. Time to get new leaders and new agendas.
Couldn’t agree more
Peace is the only way out
But who would be the peace figure on the Palestinian side? . Who would change the islamo destructive hatred ideology ?
It’s not about land my friend. The world wants the Palestinians to have a land but their leaders have other plans. History is there to prove it
In the same way, who would be the peace figure on the Israelian side?
After the clean up made in Gaza and now in Lebanon, Israel must act.
First step is to retrocede the settlements in an orderly manner with a clear timeline.
The Arabic countries having good relations with Israel could represent the Palestinians and help to structure a new state.
Snakejack,
One question: why would Hamas need to keep their new leader's identity secret if his or her initiative was peace and not "Death to Israel"????????
Israel only kills those whose stated goal is death to Israel. They have never killed leaders who wanted peace. Anwar Sadat was killed by his own people.
One question: why would Hamas need to keep their new leader's identity secret if his or her initiative was peace and not "Death to Israel"????????
'Destruction all around us': BBC reports from site of Israeli strike in Beirut that killed 18
The Israeli military previously said it hit a "Hezbollah target" near Lebanon’s largest public hospital - adding that the facility was not targeted.
www.bbc.com
Eager,Snakejack,
One question: why would Hamas need to keep their new leader's identity secret if his or her initiative was peace and not "Death to Israel"????????
Israel only kills those whose stated goal is death to Israel. They have never killed leaders who wanted peace. Anwar Sadat was killed by his own people.'Destruction all around us': BBC reports from site of Israeli strike in Beirut that killed 18
The Israeli military previously said it hit a "Hezbollah target" near Lebanon’s largest public hospital - adding that the facility was not targeted.www.bbc.com
Why Israel is still in the process of making new illegal settlements in 2024?
Who killed Ytsak Rabin ?
Assassination of Yitzhak Rabin | Israeli Prime Minister, Peace Deal, & Oslo Accords | Britannica
The assassination of Yitzhak Rabin took place on November 4, 1995, following a mass peace rally in Tel Aviv. He was killed by a Jewish extremist, Yigal Amir, who was angry about the Oslo Accords.
www.britannica.com
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Really.....Israel needs to kill babies to defend itself ....
Israeli soldiers don’t put gun to the baby head and pull the trigger. Hamas terrorists did exactly that and there are videos of these horrible acts. If Israeli soldiers came under fire from say some building, they may respond by firing tank shell back or by dropping a bomb on a mortar position placed inside a mosque or a school and killing some civilians inside. The civilian casualties during battles in urban arias are inevitable including innocent babies if they are not evacuated. You must however have a very narrow tunnel vision by not seeing the difference. As Golda Meir ones said, we may one day forgive you for killing our people, but we will never forgive you for forcing us killing yours.
