Harper dissolves Parliament: Federal election (Oct. 19) campaign is underway
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The national polls do look good for the NDP, but remember that this is not a nationwide election. It is a seat-by-seat election for members of the Canadian Parliament. Whichever party wins the most seats will lead the formation of a government. However if the conservatives don't win an outright majority of the seats, then it is hard to predict how they will manage to form a coalition. If the NDP wins the most seats but does not win an outright majority, then they would probably have to form a coalition with the Liberals. However, the NDP and Liberals are not best friends, so a coalition would not be easy for them. I think Canada might be headed for some political turmoil in the near future.
Even with NDP leading polls, Conservatives projected to win more seats
Paul Fairie
Special to The Globe and Mail
Wednesday, Aug. 26, 2015
If the NDP continue to poll well, showing leads in four of the last six publicly-released polls, why does the Globe’s Election Forecast suggest that the Conservatives have a higher probability of winning the most seats? The important thing to remember is that not all votes are created equal in terms of their ability to convert into seats.
The NDP’s strength, like in 2011, remains in Quebec. In the latest Angus Reid poll, the New Democrats are polling at a robust 51 per cent of the vote. Yet, in 2011, they turned 43 per cent of the province’s vote into winning 59 of the 75 seats. If we accept the Angus Reid number, increasing their vote share by 8 per cent around the province doesn’t leave them with much room to grow seat-wise: a seat is a seat, won by 1 vote or 20,000.
At the same time, the Conservatives also remain reasonably strong in Ontario. While certainly down from their 44 per cent vote share in 2011, they remain marginally in the lead in the province in a number of recent polls. In the latest Angus Reid survey, the Conservatives polled 35 per cent to the NDP’s 33 and in the Nanos poll released a day earlier, the Conservatives led the Liberals 39 per cent to 32.
History reminds us that this has happened before. In 1979, the Pierre Trudeau-led Liberals won 40 per cent of the vote, compared to the Joe Clark-led PCs’ 36 per cent share. Despite this, the Conservatives won 22 more seats than the Liberals and formed a brief-lived minority government. One reason the Liberals were able to win a larger share of the vote despite losing the seat count was the result in Quebec, where the Liberals won an astounding 61 per cent of the vote, capturing 67 of the province’s 75 seats.
Paul Fairie is a University of Calgary political scientist who studies voter behaviour, who designed The Globe’s Election Forecast.
Can not believe many of you want higher taxes and unemployment. Do you really think that when the NDP introduces higher taxes to big business ( which he claims he will do ) that the companies will not pass the costs on to us? Do you not see the many hidden taxes that will be handed down to us? Just because your provincial leaders sucked the life out of you all you can do is blame Harper. For Liberal lovers it is reported that Ontario is the most debt ridden place on earth... Not Harpers fault but the Liberals and JT wants to spend Canada into recovery.. Funny that it did not work for Ontario and JT still wants to do it. As for the NDP, has there ever beeen a successful NDP province, NO. Your failed provinces are not due to federal policies.
My prediction: Without a conservative victory you will see raised taxes, higher unemployment, larger deficit... Fill your boots and vote them out but when you start whining in the future look in the mirror when you do it.
I pray for a Conservative victory.
My prediction: Without a conservative victory you will see raised taxes, higher unemployment, larger deficit... Fill your boots and vote them out but when you start whining in the future look in the mirror when you do it.
I pray for a Conservative victory.
A young woman was about to finish her first year of college. Like so many others her age, she considered herself to be very liberal, and among other liberal ideals, was very much in favor of higher taxes to support more government programs, in other words redistribution of wealth.
She was deeply ashamed that her father was a rather staunch conservative, a feeling she openly expressed. Based on the lectures that she had participated in, and the occasional chat with a professor, she felt that her father had for years harbored an evil, selfish desire to keep what he thought should be his.
One day she was challenging her father on his opposition to higher taxes on the rich and the need for more government programs. The self-professed objectivity proclaimed by her professors had to be the truth and she indicated so to her father. He responded by asking how she was doing in school.
Taken aback, she answered rather haughtily that she had a 4.0 GPA, and let him know that it was tough to maintain, insisting that she was taking a very difficult course load and was constantly studying, which left her no time to go out and party like other people she knew. She didn't even have time for a boyfriend, and didn't really have many college friends because she spent all her time studying.
Her father listened and then asked, "How is your friend Audrey doing?"
She replied, "Audrey is barely getting by. All she takes are easy classes, she never studies and she barely has a 2.0 GPA. She is so popular on campus; college for her is a blast. She's always invited to all the parties and lots of times she doesn't even show up for classes because she's too hung over."
Her wise father asked his daughter, "Why don't you go to the Dean's office and ask him to deduct 1.0 off your GPA and give it to your friend who only has a 2.0. That way you will both have a 3.0 GPA and certainly that would be a fair and equal distribution of GPA."
The daughter, visibly shocked by her father's suggestion, angrily fired back, "That's a crazy idea, how would that be fair! I've worked really hard for my grades! I've invested a lot of time, and a lot of hard work! Audrey has done next to nothing toward her degree. She played while I worked my tail off!"
The father slowly smiled, winked and said gently, "Welcome to the conservative side of the fence."
If you ever wondered what side of the fence you sit on, this is a great test!
If a conservative doesn't like guns, he doesn't buy one. If a liberal doesn't like guns, he wants all guns outlawed.
If a conservative is a vegetarian, he doesn't eat meat. If a liberal is a vegetarian, he wants all meat products banned for everyone.
If a conservative is down-and-out, he thinks about how to better his situation. A liberal wonders who is going to take care of him.
If a conservative doesn't like a talk show host, he switches channels. Liberals demand that those they don't like be shut down.
If a conservative is a non-believer, he doesn't go to church. A liberal non-believer wants any mention of God and Jesus silenced.
If a conservative decides he needs health care, he goes about shopping for it, or may choose a job that provides it. A liberal demands that the rest of us pay for his.
If a conservative reads this, he'll forward it so his friends can have a good laugh. A liberal will report it because they are offended."
She was deeply ashamed that her father was a rather staunch conservative, a feeling she openly expressed. Based on the lectures that she had participated in, and the occasional chat with a professor, she felt that her father had for years harbored an evil, selfish desire to keep what he thought should be his.
One day she was challenging her father on his opposition to higher taxes on the rich and the need for more government programs. The self-professed objectivity proclaimed by her professors had to be the truth and she indicated so to her father. He responded by asking how she was doing in school.
Taken aback, she answered rather haughtily that she had a 4.0 GPA, and let him know that it was tough to maintain, insisting that she was taking a very difficult course load and was constantly studying, which left her no time to go out and party like other people she knew. She didn't even have time for a boyfriend, and didn't really have many college friends because she spent all her time studying.
Her father listened and then asked, "How is your friend Audrey doing?"
She replied, "Audrey is barely getting by. All she takes are easy classes, she never studies and she barely has a 2.0 GPA. She is so popular on campus; college for her is a blast. She's always invited to all the parties and lots of times she doesn't even show up for classes because she's too hung over."
Her wise father asked his daughter, "Why don't you go to the Dean's office and ask him to deduct 1.0 off your GPA and give it to your friend who only has a 2.0. That way you will both have a 3.0 GPA and certainly that would be a fair and equal distribution of GPA."
The daughter, visibly shocked by her father's suggestion, angrily fired back, "That's a crazy idea, how would that be fair! I've worked really hard for my grades! I've invested a lot of time, and a lot of hard work! Audrey has done next to nothing toward her degree. She played while I worked my tail off!"
The father slowly smiled, winked and said gently, "Welcome to the conservative side of the fence."
If you ever wondered what side of the fence you sit on, this is a great test!
If a conservative doesn't like guns, he doesn't buy one. If a liberal doesn't like guns, he wants all guns outlawed.
If a conservative is a vegetarian, he doesn't eat meat. If a liberal is a vegetarian, he wants all meat products banned for everyone.
If a conservative is down-and-out, he thinks about how to better his situation. A liberal wonders who is going to take care of him.
If a conservative doesn't like a talk show host, he switches channels. Liberals demand that those they don't like be shut down.
If a conservative is a non-believer, he doesn't go to church. A liberal non-believer wants any mention of God and Jesus silenced.
If a conservative decides he needs health care, he goes about shopping for it, or may choose a job that provides it. A liberal demands that the rest of us pay for his.
If a conservative reads this, he'll forward it so his friends can have a good laugh. A liberal will report it because they are offended."
If a conservative doesn't approve of certain sexual behaviours, he forbids them for everyone. If one escort is underage or trafficked, then hiring any escort should be illegal. (C-36)
A conservative physician thinks that women who are raped can shut down their bodies to avoid getting pregnant.
A conservative thinks that even victims of incest and rape and women whose life is in danger should be prevented by the state from having abortions. The government should control women's bodies, not women.
A conservative thinks that increasing penalties decreases crime - how is the war against drugs going? The solution to any social issue is to put more people in jail for longer terms and give the police military grade weapons. Demonstrations should be suppressed by force.
A conservative thinks that the solution to every foreign policy issue is to bomb somebody. When that doesn't work, send in the troops. Diplomacy is for the wimpish liberals.
A conservative believes that the government should never apologize, even for shooting down a passenger aircraft. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655 But what the hell, they were all potential terrorists?
A conservative thinks that overthrowing a democratically elected government and installing puppets who take their orders from the US government and the US corporations means that they have liberated that country.
A conservative believes that corporations are people. They should have the right to hide the ingredients and origin of their foodstuffs. Pollution always creates jobs.
Conservatives believe that the rich and the corporations should be allowed to spend without limit to influence elections and government policies.
A conservative thinks that only criminals need privacy, so everybody should give it up freely to the government.
A conservative believes that whistleblowers should be tossed into jail for decades for demanding that the government obeys its own laws.
Conservatives believe that the right to a speedy trial exists only for some, indefinite detention for others.
A conservative believes that waterboarding is not torture, but torture is justified anyway. Studies which show that the information generated from torture is not reliable are like any evidence - to be ignored if it doesn't fit one's point of view. If tortue not allowed in Canada and the US, put them on a plane to be tortured elsewhere.
A conservative turns surpluses into deficits (Bush and Harper) and then tells everybody that he is the best to manage the economy.
A conservative gives welfare to the rich and the corporations which support them and call the people who actually do pay taxes parasites.
A conservative thinks that Parliament and the Supreme Court are annoying impediments to dictatorial rule and tries to concentrate all the power in the office of the Prime Minister. A conservative runs on openness in the government and then forbids his MPs and even the government service scientists from communicating with the press.
A conservative denies climate change and any scientific evidence which runs counter to his faith based beliefs.
Conservatives believe that homosexuality is a lifestyle choice. Gays make the evil choice to belong to a tiny, shunned minority. They can be cured, but choose not to be.
Discrimination can be justified if an appropriate passage can be found in the Bible.
A conservative thinks that the Flintstones was a documentary - that dinosaurs coexisted with early humans. Their god played a trick on them with the fossils and the world is only 6000 years old.
A conservative believes in the separation of church and state - except for his own religion.
A conservative believes that hunters need machine guns, bazookas and anti-aircraft guns to hunt squirrels and that the Second Amendment means that anybody has the right to own and carry any weapon he wants anywhere.
A conservative believes that anybody who disagrees with them is a communist, terrorist, socialist, Moslem or foreign born.
A conservative physician thinks that women who are raped can shut down their bodies to avoid getting pregnant.
A conservative thinks that even victims of incest and rape and women whose life is in danger should be prevented by the state from having abortions. The government should control women's bodies, not women.
A conservative thinks that increasing penalties decreases crime - how is the war against drugs going? The solution to any social issue is to put more people in jail for longer terms and give the police military grade weapons. Demonstrations should be suppressed by force.
A conservative thinks that the solution to every foreign policy issue is to bomb somebody. When that doesn't work, send in the troops. Diplomacy is for the wimpish liberals.
A conservative believes that the government should never apologize, even for shooting down a passenger aircraft. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655 But what the hell, they were all potential terrorists?
A conservative thinks that overthrowing a democratically elected government and installing puppets who take their orders from the US government and the US corporations means that they have liberated that country.
A conservative believes that corporations are people. They should have the right to hide the ingredients and origin of their foodstuffs. Pollution always creates jobs.
Conservatives believe that the rich and the corporations should be allowed to spend without limit to influence elections and government policies.
A conservative thinks that only criminals need privacy, so everybody should give it up freely to the government.
A conservative believes that whistleblowers should be tossed into jail for decades for demanding that the government obeys its own laws.
Conservatives believe that the right to a speedy trial exists only for some, indefinite detention for others.
A conservative believes that waterboarding is not torture, but torture is justified anyway. Studies which show that the information generated from torture is not reliable are like any evidence - to be ignored if it doesn't fit one's point of view. If tortue not allowed in Canada and the US, put them on a plane to be tortured elsewhere.
A conservative turns surpluses into deficits (Bush and Harper) and then tells everybody that he is the best to manage the economy.
A conservative gives welfare to the rich and the corporations which support them and call the people who actually do pay taxes parasites.
A conservative thinks that Parliament and the Supreme Court are annoying impediments to dictatorial rule and tries to concentrate all the power in the office of the Prime Minister. A conservative runs on openness in the government and then forbids his MPs and even the government service scientists from communicating with the press.
A conservative denies climate change and any scientific evidence which runs counter to his faith based beliefs.
Conservatives believe that homosexuality is a lifestyle choice. Gays make the evil choice to belong to a tiny, shunned minority. They can be cured, but choose not to be.
Discrimination can be justified if an appropriate passage can be found in the Bible.
A conservative thinks that the Flintstones was a documentary - that dinosaurs coexisted with early humans. Their god played a trick on them with the fossils and the world is only 6000 years old.
A conservative believes in the separation of church and state - except for his own religion.
A conservative believes that hunters need machine guns, bazookas and anti-aircraft guns to hunt squirrels and that the Second Amendment means that anybody has the right to own and carry any weapon he wants anywhere.
A conservative believes that anybody who disagrees with them is a communist, terrorist, socialist, Moslem or foreign born.
Updated polls has it as a tight race between the NDP and the Liberals, meanwhile the corrupt conservatives are where they deservedly belong and where they will finish in the election(dead last place).
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-election-2015-grenier-polltracker-sep4-1.3216128
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-election-2015-grenier-polltracker-sep4-1.3216128
It was clear to me that Sol Tee Nuz list of liberal foibles was exaggerated for entertainment purposes and I responded in kind. I am aware that "conservative" is neither synonymous with "Republican" nor "CPC". I also aware that most people who describe themselves as conservative or Republican or CPC members would support very few statements of my rant. It is sad that you resort to a personal insult such as "ignorant" due to your humor impairment. I can only wonder why you neglected to insult STN for his rant about liberals.
Another Conservative caught in the act, Duffy, Walllin, Brazeau and now this guy, unreal and fucking hilarious to say the least.:lol:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/jerry-bance-marketplace-1.3217797
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/jerry-bance-marketplace-1.3217797
I like Muclair's comment:
This must be someone who's adept at Stephen Harper's trickle-down theory of economics.
There were some other good ones:
Just not ready.....to use a bathroom.
Harper should just throw in the towel now.
Harper told him he was "good to go"
This must be someone who's adept at Stephen Harper's trickle-down theory of economics.
There were some other good ones:
Just not ready.....to use a bathroom.
Harper should just throw in the towel now.
Harper told him he was "good to go"
Harper quote.
The environmental taxes to be implimented by the NDP and Liberals are nothing but a tax grab and will not improve the environment, the money will be used to pay for some of their campaign promises.
There will not be a coalition . The next government will be minority one. For the best ??? I doubt. Even if the liberals and neo dem are close politically they all want the power and will overturn the parliment if they can grab an majority of seat at the next election.
So the people if they have balls and grab the email and phone numbers of their locally elected candidate , we will have direct saying to the political agenda.
My biggest fear is that Happer passes with the vote split between NPD and Liberals.
American election are much more fun because they can say and do the most , most stuppid things. Nobody really verifies what is what. Also they have Trump who just gave its soul to the NRA ...and i taught he was rich (I mean to have a solid back bone) enough to be above that.
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Lily-Rose
I am surprised that there is not more discussion on MERB about the national election that will take place in one week. Sometimes it seems like Canadians are more interested in American politics than their own politics.
I haven't been paying much attention myself, but I was surprised to see that Trudeau and the Liberals have taken the lead in the polls. It seems unlikely that the Liberals (or any party) will win a majority of the seats in Parliament. So a coalition government seems likely.
The most likely coalition will combine the Liberals and the NDP with Trudeau as PM. Can these parties get along and govern effectively? If they can't, then there might be another election sooner rather than later.
The latest poll:
National Ballot
–The latest Nanos tracking completed on the holiday weekend has the Liberals at 35.7% nationally followed by the Conservatives at 28.9%, the NDP at 24.3% and the Greens at 4.8%
Il n'y a rien de vraiment intéressant dans ce qu'on nous propose, Capt! À Montréal, on est tout mêlés. On veut faire le meilleur choix, mais aucun choix ne nous apparait assez sensé et intelligent.
as tu fait ta boussole électoral sur ici radio canada
https://boussole.radio-canada.ca/
if you dont know for who to vote ... go here
http://votecompass.com/
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Lily-Rose
Non, pas vraiment. En fait, je parle aux gens. Ça n'a rien de scientifique, bien sûr. C'est juste un feeling.
Semble bien que plus la campagne avance plus que Trudeau a pris du poil de la bête.......les canadiens vont sans doute élire un gouv. libéral minoritaire.....et qui va se maintenir au pouvoir avec l'aide du NPD---dont les politiques se ressemblent...de plus le NPD n'aura pas intérêt à retourner en élections à court terme et devra sans doute se choisir un nouveau chef......
omg......il y a un monde de différence entre Libéraux et Conservateurs.........pas seulement au niveau des valeurs mais surtout sur le plan économique alors que les Libéraux sont prêts à creuser le déficit de plusieurs milliards au cours des prochaines années ...ce qui donne de l'urticaire aux Conservateurs ....sur le plan de la défense,,des impôts et de la LÉGALISATION DE LA MARIJUANA..........il y a aussi des différences majeures.......les Conservateurs semblent pas des grands fans du pot.....lol.....
Ok les conservateurs n'aiment pas les putes et les putes n'aiment pas Harper !
Si tu aimes les putes, tu ne vas pas voter conservateur.
http://www.lapresse.ca/le-soleil/do...-de-nus-en-echange-dun-vote-contre-harper.php
Si tu aimes les putes, tu ne vas pas voter conservateur.
http://www.lapresse.ca/le-soleil/do...-de-nus-en-echange-dun-vote-contre-harper.php
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