Higher Summer Season Rates!!!

[ManApart]

PS : MA, did you cancel or maintain your appointment with Summer ?

Yes I have kept my booking with Summer. For me, there are very few girls I would pay that rate to see because of all the great options at lower prices, but Summer is one of them....This time that is, because she just returned. I don't think I wil repeat after that however. Keli was also on my repeat list, but not at $240.

As some have mentioned it is supply and demand. If the rates have gone to that level they must believe the demand will support it. I can live with that for a few girls (the very best). I am just worried that it will set a trend. Angel escorts has a whole bunch of $220 girls now. If other agencies see that this rate can be sustained by popular girls, why wouldn't they do the same as to not lose their own stars to those agencies? I don't blame the agencies or girls, of course they want to get as much money as they can. It's up to us as customers to put our money towards the agencies and girls that give us the best value on our money. If that is done consistently, there won't be any problems.

 

[evillethings]

...Great lawyers get paid more than good ones, great restaurants charge more than good ones, why should escorts be any different?

... said the gentleman in the corner who saw the lovely Miss "Summer Treat" for ...

I saw Summer for an hour on Friday and two hours on Saturday (review forthcoming)...

3hrs ... and prior to the oil price like spike... haha... i'm just pulling ur leg shivasirons... it was too funny how you rubbed it in that you had just seen her for 3hrs over the past weekend! i'm on side with what u said.

as for the masses... let them eat cake!

 

[Kansas Frank]

I believe the direction that we are taking is a great one and new for Montreal and to assure that we only have the best the city has to offer!

Thank you,

John

Best of luck to you John and your lovely ladies and more power to you all. :thumb: I think your proposed new rates would be sustainable if in return the quality of the service is consistent, instead of Hobbyists taking a chance on YMMV for taking a chance on an SP whose rate is $240. :cheer2:

I hope Montreal will never become a TO :faint:; I love Montreal for its uniqueness and being polar oposite of TO. eace:

Guys like me in the States, pay $300/hour plus for incalls when the ladies from Canada (mostly Montreal) used to tour in the States. So, after addiding travel and lodging expenses, my cost of seeing an SP in lovely Montreal is about $100 above and beyond her rate. (I like to stay at 4 star hotels.:lol If I can be assured of consistent stellar service, $240 an hour for true, reliable GFE is fair exchange. And it would be nice if your customer service policy were more balanced -- like a four or five start hotel, if something goes wrong, offer to fix it to make the cutomer competely satisfied. :whoo:

 

[ManApart]

We are in the process of evolving into something new...

-Top incall locations (starting after GP)
-Better delivery time for outcalls
-Providing more choices in ladies and allowing us to bring in HDH at a lower MDH rate
-Allowing more ladies to stay in Montreal instead of going to Toronto (which is a BIG issue lately)
-Keeping 1 website in order not to confuse or manipulate clients
-The higher rate will motivate new ladies and existing ones to focus on quality, attitude and service!

I believe the direction that we are taking is a great one and new for Montreal and to assure that we only have the best the city has to offer! [/FONT][/SIZE]

Some interesting points John. I much rather a promotional system like you did with Summer and Keli, rather than using the higher rates to recruit the already established HDH. HDH are not really much better than the top $180-$200 girls IMO and often a disappointment. I mean service can only get so good. Their looks are generally better though. I also wonder how the girls who are at "regular" rates will react to this tier system. Could cause some issues.

I like the idea of keeping girls in Montreal who work in TO. If your last point comes to fruition then that is not a bad thing at all. I still have my reservations, so we will see how the market reacts.

 

[rumpleforeskiin]

There was 4 things that used to separate eleganza from the majority if not all of the other agencies. No.1 a great line up, No.2 pretty much all of his girls were very open minded, no.3 with the exception of greek there were no extra up charges for there great service, No.4 all of this at a very reasonable price.

The things that really separates Eleganza from the others are 1) their cavalier approach to delivering girls which permits them to deliver an hour late, and hour and a half late without so much as a phone call and b) the hype machine that you guys are all feeding.

I don't doubt that Keli and Summer are good, but I do doubt that they are any better than the dozens and dozens of other girls at many other agencies at far more reasonable prices. Could they be any better than the recent GFE of the Year winners Molly, Elena, and Naomie? Not a chance. Are they worth 50% more than Frederique, Jenna, Lily and Maxime? Not bloody likely.

As has been well established, John certainly has the right to charge whatever he chooses and those who choose to buy into the hype and overpay certainly have the right to do so. As for me, my repeat list is quite long and I'll continue to enjoy myself at $300-$310 for two and the occasional $360 for two hours.

 

[Merlot]

The things that really separates Eleganza from the others are 1) their cavalier approach to delivering girls which permits them to deliver an hour late, and hour and a half late without so much as a phone call and b) the hype machine that you guys are all feeding.

c) John's cavalier attitude on the phone.

In the old days around 2004 or 2005 when I was using Eleganza I never had any big problems with a) being that late. It was 10-15, maybe 20 minutes at most. Sometimes the lady was right on time. For b) "the hype machine", was unnecessary because things ran fairly well, considering. But c) John's way of dealing with customers on the phone...well.....................some things are just a constant in this universe.

But I'd prefer John to some.

I'm hoping rates go back to normal when there will be less clients AFTER the Grand Prix event.

I see a lot of guys are annoyed with the higher rates. Whether they go back to a lower level or not will depend on which head rules the other when you're dying for reliable horizontal refreshments and have to chose between great favorites and possibly taking one for the team with ladies who haven't made a great reputation yet. .

So we'll see who's got more nerve, the clients and their lust for sexual value or female/agency stubbornness.

Happy choices boy and girls, :thumb:

Merlot

 

[SloCumHeat]

Honestly, I am willing to see Summer, even at the 240/hr rate. Yes, I am from Toronto, and used to the 250+/hr rates. I will tell you guys if Summer is now just a DIVA (hopefully that is not the case).

 

[man77777]

1/ Summer is the contrary of a diva. Very very very nice, simple and natural attitude

2/ I don't like fake boobs, but Summer one's are nice. Old photos are misleading.

3/ But no, Summer don't worth to be one of the most expensive SP of Montréal, cause her face is a 7/8 at best.

4/ I understand John's reasons. Now it's a fight between the seller he is and the consumers we are. He has the girls, we have the money. Good luck / nice move John. Let see who will win. But we all have to know that if he succeeds, it will be like a sign sent to the others agencies and the others girls : a good SP can be paid 240$/h in Montréal. Be careful guys...

 

[jeff jones]

The higher prices and the extra, extra, extras started with several other agencies and then eleganza joined in but now they are taking it to another level of pricing. If you see Keli or Summer and partake in any of the extras you are getting into the $300. per hr price range much like mgf and not far off fks but look at Keli's schedule, last week on 6 out of 7 days and this week on all 7 days from 4pm to 2am how would you like to be her last John of the week on sunday night at about 2 in the morning, speaking for myself not a pretty picture.

 

[Doc Holliday]

Seriously speaking, Eleganza probably didn't have much choice but to raise the two girls' rates if he didn't want them to walk & head off to other agencies, such as Xxxtase/Delights or Mtl Angels, where several former 'Eleganza' girls have moved on to.

I'm certain both Summer & Keli are very nice girls & who offer a very good service. However, if i want to pay HDH rates (and i won't), i'll take my business to FKS. Just a personal choice. But i do understand that Eleganza may be in a tough spot & had to make a decision (or bribe, depending on your perspective).

Summer & Keli are simply now off my list. No big deal, there are dozens and dozens of other fish in the water.

 

[jeff jones]

When we are on the subject of pricing if you look at yesterdays ads you will see that Jessie was advertised at Chloe's for 2 hrs at $310. dollars and listed as age 26 but she was also listed as available on the mgf site and her 1 hr price was a mere $300. dollars per hour . I wonder if mfg would be so kind to tell us what makes her worth the additional money and if you can give a real good reason why she is worth the additional money then myself and many others would probably book her thru you instead of Chloes. Please don't say she is more exclusive with you as she may have been booked for several John's thru Chloes before she shows up for the mgf booking. Now mgf does have her age listed as 23 when the truth is she is probably much closer to 30 then even 26. My question is, what is it that she does with mgf that she won't do at chloe's that makes her worth this giant difference in price.

 

[rumpleforeskiin]

if you can give a real good reason why she is worth the additional money.

It's really quite simple, Jeff. 1) There are those who are simply unaware that there are other options. They've run an internet search and they come up with the likes of FKS and MGF. I've met a number of girls from both MGF and FKS when they were working at the 150$ (at that time) agencies and, believe me, they were/are no different. It's all in the marketing. and 2) There are those who think that they are getting something better simply because they are paying more.

I remember going to a Halloween Party run by MGF a couple of years ago. They had some 10-15 girls working there that night, only one of whom I'd have taken home at any price. There was one, and I won't mention her name, a star at the agency who had just an awful complexion poorly masked by a mountain of makeup.

Simply put, I've met a number of girls working in Montreal currently in agencies who are as pretty, as good in bed, as personable and charming as any girl working at MGF or FKS, both of which prey on the uninformed and gullible. Again, the three top votegetters in the merb poll earlier this year are still working at $160, $180, and $200 per hour.

To answer your question, what does she do at MGF that she doesn't do at Chloe's...is lighten your wallet.

 

[amazona]

In the past I used indies from $275 to even $400 per hour and did not get the kind of services very often I got from some sp's they charge $160 to $200 per hour .therefore I refuse to pay more then $200 an hour.some respected agencies have beautiful girls with a wonderful service.I have seen Kelly once and all I can say she is just ok and not more than that.some of these girls get excited because we put them on the pedestal and these wonderful reviews get's to ther head and they demand more moneyfrom the agencies and some times the agenceies have no choice but pass on to the clients.Let's not call theses high priced sp's for a while then you will see how fast they lower their prices. some of thess sp's leave to be indies and most of them don't even make it and very often they return back to the same agency or choose another agency. we all have seen many of them did not make it already.good luck guys and girls

 

[evillethings]

wait, hold it ... is John the 1st to publicly use the term "Mid-Dollar-Hottie" (MDH). I like it.

This needs to be documented somewhere and cited in Wikipedia god damn it.
Mods, please alert FredZ to issue a press release.

 

[centaur]

I remember the 80's and the 90's rates...what happened? contrary to inflation and prices of everything else....it went down...????!!!

 

[rollingstone]

For someone not living in Mtl like myself it always comes down to prebooking. When I budget my trip its for all the successful prebookings with indies/HDHs, then some additional cash for incidental agency providers, 'time fillers' in between if you will. The indies are more or less a sure thing (at least the ones I have used) so I put most of my budget there. With agency provider I never know who is going to be available or if I will be able to book them in time so they naturally get a smaller piece of the pie. So when an agency girl raises her rate beyond a certain point she prices herself out of the smaller slice, but cant get into the bigger slice of the budget because meaningful prebooking opportunities aren't there.

Anyway, thats how it works for me. Cheers

 

[man77777]

My concern is I that we lost Mikaela due to a client (who is also a member here) that decided to raise her rates to $240 because I did not want to give in to higher rates. But it did not seem to bother anyone at the time since she was always still booked solid.
So in order for us to make sure that it does NOT happen again, we have to do the same thing and it was the only reason why Summer decided to return.

1/ Mikaela is not a good exemple, John, cause a/ she was 10X more beautiful b/ She stopped her carreer 3weeks later, so you didn't really lose money by losing her.

2/ Ok you admit that seeing Mikaela full-booked at 240$ made you think you can do the same next time you have a gem. So you proove what I said : if we accept 240$/h and if Summer and Keli are solid-booked, the others agencies will also think they "have to do the same thing". = We all have to resist to this increase which can be the first step to a generalized increase of the prices.

3/ You have more to lose or win than instant money in this story John, you can lose a/ your incredibly good brand image and the support of all your merb opinion leaders. You also have to lose b/ the serenity in your agency : what will be the reaction of the others girls ? They will be hurted and will ask you for more money...

 

[cloudsurf]

it was the only reason why Summer decided to return.

Thank you,

John

Nobody should be surprised by this comment. The question should be..... is a happy Summer better than no Summer.
I say yes, and I agree with what John has done.

Some of you complained when some agencies hired VIP`s at 220 and swore never to see them...yet many of you have.... and these girls are booked solid.
If a hot girl asks for 220 or 240 or else she does not join an agency, but instead continues doing something more lucrative like porn or dancing.... who wins?

 

[breadman]

I remember going to a Halloween Party run by MGF a couple of years ago. They had some 10-15 girls working there that night, only one of whom I'd have taken home at any price.

Just goes to show you the quality of photoshop. Im not active in Montreal at the moment but might make a run there in the future to relive the old days of $140 an hour (now a tad bit higher). Those days are long gone, replaced by $160/hr, only to be replaced by $180/hr, then agency's discounted service due to recession to $160/hr. Now its up to $200/hr or more, man how things have changed since i've been gone. Id hate to book one of these girls Rumple and fork over $200. And then get shitty service on top of that.

 

[rumpleforeskiin]

Summer & Keli are simply now off my list. No big deal, there are dozens and dozens of other fish in the water.

There are, indeed, Doc. Personally, I have no intention of giving any of my business to an agency operator who has clearly and openly stated that he wants to turn Montreal into Toronto.