This is indeed a bad sign, eleganza was always an agency that you count on for value and great service from his ladies and it now seems that eleganza is leading the charge to higher pricing.
Higher Summer Season Rates!!!
- Thread starter ManApart
- Start date
This is indeed a bad sign, eleganza was always an agency that you count on for value and great service from his ladies and it now seems that eleganza is leading the charge to higher pricing.
It's all a question of business model. In the past, John has used merb and its readership as his primary clientele. It's pretty clear now that he's seeking a new primary market. I suppose it's possible that his lousy delivery has alienated the merb readership to the point where his business has fallen off and he's going after a less informed clientele.
In any case, that's his prerogative. My sense is that rather than try to follow his lead, the other agencies will try to fill the void, garnering additional business from the clients who used to support him.
Will his new business model work? I dunno and, frankly, Scarlet, I don't give a damn. There are more than enough places around here for me to send my business.
That may well be the case, but 12 years ago, I was paying 150$ per hour. The current standard 180$ is pretty much in keeping with inflation.
in 1980 massage parlours in Laval massage 30 and 25 for HJ, BJ for 50 and 75 FS anything else options
in 1984 all were at 30-60-90 and the big ones at 50-100-150 from about 1988
Incall in mtl in 1994 real cheap ones at 60-80 the best at 200-300...SW on top corners(St-Laurent/Ste-Catherine) were at $100.
I remember 350 for FS...in classy (and busy)downtown place
Massage parlour,sexy hairdressers and Private dances no touch no sex no HJ and you spent close to a hundred...
What are we complaining about?
Gaz price,food,rent,taxes and all have increased dramatically but escorts went down?....
The prices went down with the drug addicts but I honestly believe that good ones and top places are underpriced.
And (I might get stoned for that)I think that the ladies give a hell of a service for that meager amount considering the risks for their health,customers demands and all...
As far as I am concerned $220 is cheap and if they ALL set their prices higher and hold their ground,we would still pay...Better for them to do 4 clients at $300. than 8 at $150.,
safer and easier.
Sure there are still "cheap" ones but I drive a Mercedes not a Kia....
in 1984 all were at 30-60-90 and the big ones at 50-100-150 from about 1988
Incall in mtl in 1994 real cheap ones at 60-80 the best at 200-300...SW on top corners(St-Laurent/Ste-Catherine) were at $100.
I remember 350 for FS...in classy (and busy)downtown place
Massage parlour,sexy hairdressers and Private dances no touch no sex no HJ and you spent close to a hundred...
What are we complaining about?
Gaz price,food,rent,taxes and all have increased dramatically but escorts went down?....
The prices went down with the drug addicts but I honestly believe that good ones and top places are underpriced.
And (I might get stoned for that)I think that the ladies give a hell of a service for that meager amount considering the risks for their health,customers demands and all...
As far as I am concerned $220 is cheap and if they ALL set their prices higher and hold their ground,we would still pay...Better for them to do 4 clients at $300. than 8 at $150.,
safer and easier.
Sure there are still "cheap" ones but I drive a Mercedes not a Kia....
Quote:That may well be the case, but 12 years ago, I was paying 150$ per hour. The current standard 180$ is pretty much in keeping with inflation.
12 years ago my office rent was $2600. 2012 now at $8400.
gaz at 60 cents a liter now at 1.36 or so
bread at less than 1.50 now around 3.49
so your 150 should be close to 300 now
evidently if you base your calculation on minimum waves and inflation we should all pay 80 cents a liter for gaz and 2.00 for bread..
12 years ago my office rent was $2600. 2012 now at $8400.
gaz at 60 cents a liter now at 1.36 or so
bread at less than 1.50 now around 3.49
so your 150 should be close to 300 now
evidently if you base your calculation on minimum waves and inflation we should all pay 80 cents a liter for gaz and 2.00 for bread..
hey Centaur did you know some new Kia is betther than the old Mercedes?.Why would anyone pay basically the same sp 240 or $300 if u can get it for 180 or $200.try someindies from $300 to $450 an hour and see it for yourself.she comes with a nice dress a better make up means nothing to me .if I am renting her services for one hour I really don't care for her Louis Vitton bag or her $1000 dress.all I care if I am going to get my money worth itor not.then again that's some of us not all agree with me or you.by the way do you like your mercedes?.I have S550 I am going to trade in august or september if u r intrested send me a pm.
The escorts are going to do what is best for them and that is make the maximum amount of money they can, you can't blame them for that. The escort agencies are also going to do what ever they can to maximize there profits by giving the ladies what they are asking for and in many cases driving prices up by contacting escorts at other agencies and promising them more per hour plus the extras for swallow or cim or whatever they need to do to make more money for themselves. Again looking out for no.1 but if the escorts and the agencies can look out for number one and justify it all then is it fair ball for us johns to start looking out for no. i ourselves and when ever possible start to cut out the middle man and make side deals with the sp's. The sp's make a little more but you pay a little less for the ladies you want to repeat with. Not saying i would do it but we all know that it goes on and no the agencies will not fire there popular ladies for making side deals. If prices start getting driven up to the point where there is not a lot of difference between toronto and montreal is this going to be the tipping point where johns start to try and cut out the middle man or woman wher ever possible. Just a thought.
I really like my car,it is a 450SL 1976 all original,I love driving it and a convertible is always fun in summer.That was my dream car in the 70's and I would not trade it.Now I agree that as a buyer you like paying less for same value. But I still think that prices are low.I am not saying you should buy a Kia for the price of a Mercedes,and if you can get a Mercedes for the price of a Kia great deal....I am saying that prices going up was to be expected and it is just "normalization"...
Centaur, you can cite all the anomalies you choose, but the simple fact is that SP rates have kept up with the overall rate of inflation, no more, no less. Gasoline is a bad analogy as it's a commodity with wild fluctuations. In fact, the price of gas has dropped 5% in the last month. As for your rent, either you have moved to a larger space or higher rent district, or you're getting beat by your landlord. I was paying $1500 in 2000 for my shop, I'm paying $1900 today.
That may well be the case, but 12 years ago, I was paying $130-140 per hour. Extra hours with some of those agencies was $100 per hour. I also had several side deals with a few sps that charged me only $100/hour, and in 2004, two girls charging me $200 (all inclusive) for a duo with the both of them. Did the three girl thing a few times for $300/hr total.....two hours would have been $500.....side deals, of course.
I agree with Rumples that the current standard 180$ is pretty much in keeping with inflation.
Uhhh Oh, is another boycott on the horizon? 
It's simple boyz, if you dont like the high rates then dont pay for those girls. Like others have said, there are plenty of lower priced agencies to more than satisfy your tastes/needs. The Mtl hobby scene will likely never be like the Toronto hobby scene price wise because of the differences economically. Plus Toronto's population is almost 2 million more than Montreals, which has a trickle down effect on everything including the hobby.
If you book Eleganza's girls at the higher prices then maybe some "gems" will become the norm of $240 plus per hour. If many stop booking them at those rates then possibly the rates come back down to a more reasonable figure. Geez, i sound like Merlot, not picking a side here lol. Just teasing you Merlot, now i understand a little more why your like this alot. (i did say a little)
It's simple boyz, if you dont like the high rates then dont pay for those girls. Like others have said, there are plenty of lower priced agencies to more than satisfy your tastes/needs. The Mtl hobby scene will likely never be like the Toronto hobby scene price wise because of the differences economically. Plus Toronto's population is almost 2 million more than Montreals, which has a trickle down effect on everything including the hobby.
If you book Eleganza's girls at the higher prices then maybe some "gems" will become the norm of $240 plus per hour. If many stop booking them at those rates then possibly the rates come back down to a more reasonable figure. Geez, i sound like Merlot, not picking a side here lol. Just teasing you Merlot, now i understand a little more why your like this alot. (i did say a little)
why the only john got pick on , how about Tony @ Angel he was raise the rates too it less than Eleganza , but he charge for the driver come out almost the same
so we are should do to take off the TDL those girl with they think they are in high demand or stop call the agency for couple week if some one dont want to pay for HDH
do they are worth it ?????? it my 2 cents opinion
so we are should do to take off the TDL those girl with they think they are in high demand or stop call the agency for couple week if some one dont want to pay for HDH
do they are worth it ?????? it my 2 cents opinion
I've spoken with girls who have gone to Toronto. I've been told by all that after paying for travel, hotel, cabs, etc., they do better right here at home.
There are many ways to run a business. Satin Dreamz, Chloes, MSC to name just a few are doing fine by giving good customer service, delivering on time, and keeping the girls booked. And, in fact, the girls working for them at $110-$120 per hour are actually doing better because they arrive on time and, hence, work a full shift.
Eleganza has gotten a beating in this thread from me because of their history of delivering 60-90 minutes late, but I'm sure there are other offenders. Girls who arrive consistently that late are getting fewer billing hours and, in the end, making less money.
You're absolutely correct. One more thing: the cost of living in Toronto is sky-high as compared to Montreal's. Most single people i know who live in Toronto (and have a middle-income job) can't afford to pay their rent on their own, so they share their appartments with one or two other people. Toronto sps need to make more money in order to be able to pay their bills.
Also, if you guys are so upset at the increases in rates, then stop raving about the girls.....stop exaggerating your reviews & stop giving the girls unreal numbers such as 9-9-9 or even more. I'm not saying that you should stop reviewing (or boasting) the girls, but be more honest & objective when writing your reviews. If Dayana Mendoza is a 10, then there is not a single sp in Mtl who should rate higher than 7. If Jenna Jameson or Ginger Lynn are 10's in terms of service, then i doubt there are girls in Mtl that are higher than an 8.....and so on.
Personally, i really don't give a damn if two of Eleganza's girls have their rates higher than most of the other girls at the agency. If it creates friction among the girls, it's really not my problem.
The only one of the two that i had on my list was Keli. But as long as she's over $200, i'm not interested anymore since i have at least 6 repeats on my hobbying list that i'd see at decent prices before seeing her. As for Summer, i'm sure she's a nice girl and all, but i'm simply not into girls with fake boobs & i have this personal rule that forbids me to call an escort who has fake boobs. Why? Because fake boobs turn me totally off. I'm in no way turned on by plastic boobs! I'd rather want a girl with no boobs than a girl with fake boobs! So if Eleganza ever decides to charge $500 an hour for the 'privilege' to see any of those girls, then who cares? It doesn't change anything in my life & i'll just take my business elsewhere, like i've always done.
Just saying.....
By the way, how the hell did i miss out on Mikaela? She sounds incredible!!
You're right...
When I met Summer, she was shy and wasn't confident in herself at all. She was surprise to see that I find her quite attractive ! If Summer haven't been so much over-rated in reviews, she wouldn't have asked for this new price. Cmon' guys, let say the true, Summer is facially a GND...
Oh well....maybe i could have made an exception. I made one for Megane (2002 Montreal Girlfriends) and i repeated with her many times over the years. They looked real!! lol
I also didn't mind them on Marie-Eve (Asservissante) once she put on a bit of weight. I saw her a dozen times, probably more. And i'd see her again if she ever made a comeback. I've met very few women in my lifetime who could compete with her sexual energy. Va-voom!!!!!!!!
Doc:
I feel the same way you do about fake boobs. Although I have to admit I still had Summer on my TDL because of her reviews. But after her rate increase, I'm not willing to take the chance on a session with her. Same goes for Keli, and probably any other Eleganza SPs that follow suit.
I feel the same way you do about fake boobs. Although I have to admit I still had Summer on my TDL because of her reviews. But after her rate increase, I'm not willing to take the chance on a session with her. Same goes for Keli, and probably any other Eleganza SPs that follow suit.
If you read me again, you will see I just talked about facial look, Reverdy, and 7.5 for the face = GND. And 8.25 for the body is not that much... If you look at my others reviews, you will see that 7.5 face and 8.25 body are really not some good rates in my scale...
To be paid like a star, you have to be a star, and you can't be a real star with a GND face.
A great service and attitude (moreover for some reason and what she told me, i'm not sure that everybody had the same service) aren't enough to make a star !
To be paid like a star, you have to be a star, and you can't be a real star with a GND face.
A great service and attitude (moreover for some reason and what she told me, i'm not sure that everybody had the same service) aren't enough to make a star !
Not in merb reverdy. In merb, 7 = GND.
Moreover, everybody has his own scale, that's why it's so useful to read a lot of review to be able to understand each others scales...
I can add that my 7.5 was the lowest rate she had...
My point was to say that some of us wrote that she was incredible in her look and attitude. The true is that she is a GND with an incredible attitude...
Moreover, everybody has his own scale, that's why it's so useful to read a lot of review to be able to understand each others scales...
I can add that my 7.5 was the lowest rate she had...
My point was to say that some of us wrote that she was incredible in her look and attitude. The true is that she is a GND with an incredible attitude...
Similar threads
