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hungry101

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Yeah, well the girl next door to me doesn't have her nipples peirced and threaded with chains and she doesnt try to stick a vibrator up my ass when I am out cutting the lawn.

I think this writers of this thread should focus on the agencies that are keeping the prices down. We out of towners should all agree to call one of those agencies and give them a shot next time we are in town.
 

lgna69xxx

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Soooooooooooo True Mr. Holliday.

But i have a bone to pick with you, are you telling me my future wife is only a 10? :eek:


:hail: http://static.thehollywoodgossip.com/images/gallery/dayana-mendoza-bikini-pic.jpg (perfect as perfect can be)



Also, if you guys are so upset at the increases in rates, then stop raving about the girls.....stop exaggerating your reviews & stop giving the girls unreal numbers such as 9-9-9 or even more. I'm not saying that you should stop reviewing (or boasting) the girls, but be more honest & objective when writing your reviews. If Dayana Mendoza is a 10, then there is not a single sp in Mtl who should rate higher than 7.
 

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I also didn't mind them on Marie-Eve (Asservissante) And i'd see her again if she ever made a comeback. I've met very few women in my lifetime who could compete with her sexual energy. Va-voom!!!!!!!!

I totally agree

She almost broke my hip 2 years ago..I couldn't keep up with that girl

If she ever allowed CIM.... i could dream ;)
Best Regards

Smuler
 

jeff jones

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Yeah, well the girl next door to me doesn't have her nipples peirced and threaded with chains and she doesnt try to stick a vibrator up my ass when I am out cutting the lawn.
And if she does shove the vibrator up your butt and you weren't expecting it, is that an extra or is it on the house:)
 

lgna69xxx

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Was this several times or say once or twice? Of the times I have called John and crew, they have never been more than 20 mins late and actually early a couple times.
Eleganza has gotten a beating in this thread from me because of their history of delivering 60-90 minutes late, but I'm sure there are other offenders.
 

hungry101

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Funny, I just had it done in FKK land and I wasn't expecting it. I ended up paying for the house porn star package and an hour session. "Supersize it," I said.
 

jeff jones

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Was this several times or say once or twice? Of the times I have called John and crew, they have never been more than 20 mins late and actually early a couple times.

Of the many times that i have called them the norm is 20 to 40 minutes late and on my 2nd last trip when i booked Avril she was an hour and 40 minutes late but not to just pick on eleganza here, on my last trip i booked Tara from gof and she was an hour and 50 minutes late.
 

hungry101

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I have to say that the last trip I saw Eleganza girls on successive nights and one was 10 minutes late and agency called to tell me she would be late. The next night the girl was right on time.
 

jeff jones

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For those of us who were lucky enough to see Gianna we were probably fortunate she worked 3 or 4 years ago because if she was working now they would probably be trying to justify $300. per hour plus extras.
 

hungry101

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I saw her. I had the pleasure of writing the first review on her. I absolutley loved her. I wouldn't pay 300$ though. I would if I saw her in Houston. That would be a bargin in LA. But in Montreal, the going rate is 160-200$ I could just about see two in Montreal for that price.
 

amazona

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picky agreed one hundred percent .I have seen keli only once and truly no big a deal .and hopefully some of their regulars don't call them for repeat then they have no choice but lower their rates.at the sametime this is Montreal a lot of other sp's around .
 

Doc Holliday

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I saw Gianna 4 years ago and she was fantastic! I would repeat & repeat with her if she'd still be around. An ultra-dfk queen, i wound up with a case of tonsilitis a day or two after seeing her. She kind of overdid the dfk thing, sticking her tongue deep in your throat, rubbing against your tonsils. That was my only complaint of her.

I also saw Karyna. To be honest, considering all the hype about her, i was a bit disappointed when i saw her. That's what happens when a girl is overly hyped: people like me have higher expectations of them & are left disappointed when we finally get to meet them, with no fault of theirs.

My two favorite Eleganza girls were Emely & Emmanuelle. Emmanuelle was great & we had great chemistry when we saw one another. Great body, great ass. But Emely (the first one) has to be the one i enjoyed seeing the most. An hour would fly by extremely quickly in her company & i not only enjoyed her looks & her skills, but especially her witty personality. I once proclaimed to her that she was THE bonafide star at the agency, and she seemed to be totally caught off-guard by my claim. To this day, she remains among my all-time top 10's.
 

lgna69xxx

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Never met Summer or Keli so cant comment on them, but i can comment on Karyna. I was one of the last she ever met before she retired. She was very humble about herself which was a breath of fresh air in this business. She was very giving and would not even accept a $50 tip after a 4 hour date in which she stayed 2 extra hours. I will never forget what she said when I tried to give her the tip "no, you have already paid me too much" , huh? She was an amazing girl and decided she had to get out while she still had the chance to and get her life in order. What a gem and hope shes very very happy today. If she were to want to make HDH rates at Eleganza, HER, i would not blame because she could of easily done so, and well worth it, she was the total package to many. She later did so as a Indy but could of charged more easily with what i hear was an extensive fan club she had. Again, hope she is very happy today.

The famous gorgeous legendary Karyna never asked for 240 while at Eleganza...and she was very very pretty facially(and also gave great service according to old reviews...I never did,but saw many of her pics from her indy website...Karyna made Summer and Keli look VERY VERY GND facially.
 

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Was this several times or say once or twice? Of the times I have called John and crew, they have never been more than 20 mins late and actually early a couple times.
I've used them approximately five times in the last year (Teena, twice, Jessica, twice, I believe at least one other) and they've been consistently late. And it's not just the lateness, but the lack of information on the way. If Chloe's is going to be more than 10 minutes late, I get a call. I suppose the same would be true of Satin Dreamz, but they're never late. (Again, maybe I shouldn't be picking on John alone, but that's my experience. There are a lot of agencies I haven't dealt with.)


Uhhh Oh, is another boycott on the horizon? :rolleyes:

If you book Eleganza's girls at the higher prices then maybe some "gems" will become the norm of $240 plus per hour. If many stop booking them at those rates then possibly the rates come back down to a more reasonable figure. Geez, i sound like Merlot, not picking a side here lol. Just teasing you Merlot, now i understand a little more why your like this alot. (i did say a little) ;)
To each his own, Iggy. Personally, I find that there are a plethora of girls available at 180$ and below and I wouldn't spend more. There certainly is no need to. (Well, maybe just once to see Jasmine again ;)) However, given John's stated intent to turn Montreal into Toronto, I won't call him again at any price. I don't believe I'm alone and I do believe that he's shooting himself in the foot.

Mike and Billy don't have trouble retaining girls at 160$-180$, Jessy doesn't at 160$, Peter doesn't at 180$. There are others. Why does John have to pay so much more to keep a staff? That's a question I think he ought to ask himself.
 

freedom3

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Here’s my perspective, a humble Torontonian.

I see escorts here in Toronto and I drop by Montreal when I get the chance, which isn’t very often. (Coincidentally, I just returned from Montreal.)

The reason I go to Montreal is because I want to see the “stars”. There is no point in me going to Montreal just to see the same quality of escorts I can see here. It is true that in Montreal they will be $20 or $40 less per hour, but the cost of the trip and time away from work means I am far better off here.

(Just for a frame of reference, here are some examples of past escorts who I consider to be stars: Karyna, Emanuelle, Venus, Porchya, Paris, Jazz, Eden, Dolce, Tessa, Alyssa. These are all past escorts from Eleganza, and if I could see them again for $240 an hour (plus extras), I would do it in a second.)

In Toronto, with a few exceptions, you don’t get the stars.

(I would imagine that the situation is even more extreme for Americans where prices are triple, quality is half, and you can end up in jail.)

My main hope is that John can attract more stars with higher rates. What Maria Divina said in her post makes sense to me: More money for the same or fewer clients and “gentler” clients. (A couple of escorts told me on this trip about excessive butt slapping by some clients.)

I can’t think of any reason why the better escorts (hotter, better attitude, etc.) shouldn’t be paid more than the others. Not all escorts are the same.

I definitely don’t think of John as some type of magician who can conjure up stars to work for his agency at $180 an hour and no extras. We are asking enough of him to bring stars into the escort business in the first place. His business model will collapse if he brings them into the industry just to have them go to another agency or decide to stop working altogether because they don’t feel they are getting paid enough. If they are fully booked at $240 per hour (or happy with whatever bookings they get), then good for them.

Just to be clear, not all of John’s escorts are stars. But for Keli and Summer (and Giana), I would be okay with $240 an hour. For others, I would be calling to complain (and soon stop using Eleganza) if John sent me an average escort and expected me to pay $240 an hour.

For me, the trend that worries me the most is escorts who only do incalls. Traveling to see an escort for an incall is too big of a hassle on a Montreal vacation. It takes the fun out of the trip.

Anyways, John is a businessman. He will figure out very quickly what works for his agency.

Maybe he will move to Toronto and start recruiting here.

Also, in terms of Toronto pricing, if Keli and Summer were in Toronto, then they would likely be working at Mirage as Mirage VIPs. Mirage is the biggest agency in Toronto and I have seen most of the Mirage VIPs (ie. I have seen Jessyka, Jessie, Angie, Emmanuelle, Emma, Electra, Julie) and Keli and Summer are definitely better than most of them. Plus, Keli and Summer offer sw as an option and most of the Mirage VIPs don’t, so that would also make them stand out.

Their rates would be:
½ hour (incall only): $200 (plus extras)
1 hour (incall): $300 (plus extras)
1 hour (outcall): $325 (plus extras)

(So I can understand why Montrealer wouldn’t want Montreal to turn into Toronto.)

There are certainly a lot of Montreal escorts travelling to Toronto. I just noticed Shanelle of XXXtase is at Dreammakers (another Toronto agency) today.

Many of the Montreal escorts have returned several times, so I think they find it profitable.
 

amazona

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did you guys see Keli's schedule ?.Seven days solid .I am certain she must be taking some energy drink to keep up.
 

rumpleforeskiin

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All the agencies that were discussed have gone through some fairly significant changes in their roster over the past few months, and we could probably extend this with all the ones that are often discussed on this board.
Yes, some of the names change, but the size of their rosters is fairly consistent. For most of the past few weeks, Chloe's has had 8-9 girls per night and Jessy's roster is bigger than ever.

The reason I go to Montreal is because I want to see the “stars”. There is no point in me going to Montreal just to see the same quality of escorts I can see here. It is true that in Montreal they will be $20 or $40 less per hour, but the cost of the trip and time away from work means I am far better off here.
I don't know what you mean by stars, but by my definition those would be the girls who won the Best GFE poll. The top "stars" in Montreal right now are Naomie at MSC (160$ per hour), Molly at Chloe's (180$ per hour), Elena at Lust (200$ per hour) and Thalia at MSC (160$ per hour.)

By what standard are Summer and Keli "stars." Each has been around just a couple of months with a handful of (albeit stellar) reviews.
 

Merlot

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Hello all,

I don't know what you mean by stars, but by my definition those would be the girls who won the Best GFE poll. The top "stars" in Montreal right now are Naomie at MSC (160$ per hour), Molly at Chloe's (180$ per hour), Elena at Lust (200$ per hour) and Thalia at MSC (160$ per hour.)

By what standard are Summer and Keli "stars." Each has been around just a couple of months with a handful of (albeit stellar) reviews.


Yes, good point. Are these latter ratings justified, a bit of escort ego, or testosterone excitement by the reviewers?

I've used them approximately five times in the last year (Teena, twice, Jessica, twice, I believe at least one other) and they've been consistently late. And it's not just the lateness, but the lack of information on the way. If Chloe's is going to be more than 10 minutes late, I get a call. I suppose the same would be true of Satin Dreamz, but they're never late. (Again, maybe I shouldn't be picking on John alone, but that's my experience.

Though I have not dealt with the agency for a very long time, one of the best things about dealing with Montreal Sex City was the timely notification of any timing changes or any other complications. Jessy also made me aware long before the appointment if any complications with the chosen lady might be likely.

I don't expect any agency to be perfect, but I want to be made aware of what might be likely and be updated about any issues in a reasonable time frame that might come up. When this doesn't happen during an apparent delay I make sure to check into it myself within a fair margin of time that is neither to short or long. In my case where I only visit a few times a year I can't afford to lose opportunities, so if too much time is lost waiting I sometimes inform agencies I may be moving on elsewhere after a given time. Maybe more locals should do the same and the loss in cash might change some of the more lax agency attitudes.

My post isn't about John, but I see the DOJs (Defenders of John) and COJs (Critics of John) are out and this thread is starting to be about Eleganza. Too bad. While they may have issues, there's more than one agency and owner that should be called out...IF...any are to be called out. I think we should either keep this discussion more generic or expand other places where there are also significant faults.

Good luck,

Merlot
 
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freedom3

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I don't know what you mean by stars, but by my definition those would be the girls who won the Best GFE poll. The top "stars" in Montreal right now are Naomie at MSC (160$ per hour), Molly at Chloe's (180$ per hour), Elena at Lust (200$ per hour) and Thalia at MSC (160$ per hour.)

By what standard are Summer and Keli "stars." Each has been around just a couple of months with a handful of (albeit stellar) reviews.

I agree that everyone has his own idea of what does or doesn't make an escort a star.

In my post, I gave some examples of who I thought was a star: "Just for a frame of reference, here are some examples of past escorts who I consider to be stars: Karyna, Emanuelle, Venus, Porchya, Paris, Jazz, Eden, Dolce, Tessa, Alyssa."

I definitely don't think getting a lot of good reviews makes an escort a star. I (like probably everyone on this board) has been shocked at one time or another about who showed up at the door after reading great reviews about her.

For me, a star is an escort who has a mix of looks and personality that made me feel it was worth coming to Montreal.
 
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