Hot Take, Giving money to fellow Clients.

[jalimon]

This hobby is a bitch. We never have enough. Very often I think it would be better for me to live in Kalamazoo, Michigan, instead of Montreal. I wrote a few time here one need a salary of up 100k to enjoy the hobby correctly (of course depending on your level of "hornyness" ). I was able to seriously cut down in the past 5 weeks. Only 2 sessions. I am satisfied. Then I look at Sonia's Twitter to find out a client brought her... Ice skating... Fuuuuuuuuuuccccckkkkkkkkkkkkkkk!!! Some dudes have money getting out of their ears. I mean fuck 5-600$ spent to go skate a little with the girl dressed up as a snowmen?? I mean there is not much sexyness in full winter clothes... I will never be able to compete haha Sorry I needed to rant a bit too...

HM congrats on the 95 pounds lost! That is a great accomplishment. A life changer for sure.

Cheers,

 

[EagerBeaver]

HM if you lost 95 pounds there is no excuse for not getting a job as a bartender. There is no reason you can’t make yourself clean cut looking for such a job. Although the bartenders at The Keg are younger (under 35 or so) I would describe them more as very clean cut and well groomed than “studs.” Both the males and the females. There is one male bartender there who is very good looking and also a very personable guy. They will tell you who the working girls are when they come in. They know. Bartenders know stuff like that. They figure it out if they are not outright told. Most people drink and talk and any bartender with a half brain knows what all his or her customers do for a living.

Deville Dinerbar is another place to apply. Great place to work. Bartenders there also young but slightly more alternative looking such as with lots of tats and rings on some of them. Different vibe there than Keg. Tips probably just as good.

 

[hungry101]

Joe's comment is spot on. There is also another side of this. Do not think that the guys that have seen 1000's of escorts are necessarily happy. I am a bit of a binge hobbyist. I do not see 1000's of girls. I have, on occasion, fucked myself out on hobby trips to Europe. There are times I sit back in my robe and I watch 50 fuckable girls walk by and I think "What's the point." Each one of them would be acceptable if they knocked on my hotel door but I'm looking for something different. I spend every hour I'm not working in a whorehouse and I come back from Europe and people ask me what did you see and I say nothing.

One of the best things I did a few years back was the following: I was on day 4 in an FKK and I also saw two escorts in Belgium outside the FKK. My dick was actually hurting from a very nice girl (Melinia - a German Porn Star like girl). I went back to see what I thought was my ATF and I was bored with her. It all felt so empty. I got in a car and drove a few hours to Ypres and I spent the night and toured the battlefield and interpretive center and went to a pub with a few English guys I met while touring the battle field. One had relatives that died there. They were both RAF veterans and they invited me to a pub to drink beers. We met a recent grad from West Point who was there with his girlfriend. They asked me if I was staying for the Last Post. I had no idea what the fuck they were talking about. So at 8PM we walked over to the Menin gate and the trumpeters played the Last Post for the British MIA in the Ypres sector which amounted to about ~60,000 missing - many that are Canadian!!!! There were Major Generals missing!!! BTW - I stood were the Canadians were able to stem the tide of the German advance after the first successful gas attack. They had no gas masks and the Colonial troops had broke and ran. It changed my life. As they laid the wreaths down and I thought of all the boys that never went back to their mothers I actually wept. After, we all went out to dinner. It changed my life and meant more than any experience I've ever had in the hobby .

There have been times I've been in Montreal (or other places) waiting for a knock on my door. Sometimes she's an hour or two late...I felt like a prisoner at times. She comes and goes in 45 minutes and then I'd go out to dinner alone for a little dinner. It's usually nice but that gets old. I see people in Montreal laughing and joking and I'm nursing a beer. I cant do more than a day or two of this. The parties have really helped with this but I got to say, coming into Montreal could be a lonely experience and usually the girls were great but there was that occasion when a girl really left me empty. I've heard of stories from a friend who had a thing for one of the hottest escorts in Montreal and she liked him. He would end up spending a few thousand on her and it was never enough and he almost bankrupted himself and he would go home with a terrible feeling about the money he spent.

All things in moderation!

 

[Halloween Mike]

HM if you lost 95 pounds there is no excuse for not getting a job as a bartender. .

I had gotten very fat to be honest, im currently at 250 lbs. Im still "fat" but i gain back a lot of my form/quickness from 10 years ago and my body feel great. I am hoping to cut another 30 lbs this year, wich should be very possible, even in the first half if i work as hard as last year. By then ill probably look a lot like wrestler Kevin Owens physically (current 2020). Its still crazy tough that looking at a chart for my height, at 220 (i aim for 220) i would still be considered "obese". Overweight is 184 to 213. Guess 213 to 221 is in between? If i was 185 i would feel SKINNY lol.

Anyway, its something interesting i won't lie, maybe ill look a a bit at that, i know there is schools now for bartending. Almost all the pics i seen tough are of attractive peoples. (i mean real graduate, not promo pics). Cause even tough i enjoy drinking (especially beer), i don't know much about fancy cocktails.

In any case thanks on the congratulation to both of you.

 

[Steely Dan]

Hi Mike, always enjoy reading your posts. Don't know if you remember but we did meet at one of the parties. You seem like a genuine good guy. Congrats and getting your physical and financial life in the right direction. I'm curious....without getting too personal...how do you make living NOW?

 

[EagerBeaver]

Anyway, its something interesting i won't lie, maybe ill look a a bit at that, i know there is schools now for bartending. Almost all the pics i seen tough are of attractive peoples. (i mean real graduate, not promo pics). Cause even tough i enjoy drinking (especially beer), i don't know much about fancy cocktails.

You don't need school, just some on the job training and perhaps pick up a book on cocktails or just learn the basic ones by reading online. I see you fitting into the bartender dynamic as long as you get a good short haircut and good shave and dress well. Deville Dinerbar might fit you better than The Keg but I would apply at both of those places as well as the Dominion Square Tavern around the block from The Keg. Another good downtown spot. I would also apply at Weinstein's and Gavino/s, Winnies, Dundees and Hooters all on Crescent Street. Also, don't overlook the hotels. Le Centra Sheraton and Queen E would be the two best ones downtown; Omni and Vogue also worth a shot.

 

[Halloween Mike]

I'm curious....without getting too personal...how do you make living NOW?

I am sure if i would see your face i would remember you, but by name alone i can't put them together. Im terrible with remembering names really. As for your question, part time job in familly business and doing small work left and right. Im just lucky i have very very little expenses to pay outside my credit card debt.

Thanks EB for the sugestion. Who knows maybe eventually ill think about making the move to Montreal. Not now tough.

 

[Fradi]

HM
You are a very likeable and honest guy, but if you want something in life, nobody is going to give it to you and wishing it is not going to make it happen either.


When I came to this country I was not yet 16 and my dad died of a heart attack six months after, so it was on me and my mom to take care of the family.
I worked 60-80 hours a week played soccer professionally, learned a trade and then studied everything there is to know about metallurgy, so not only could I make anything out of steel, I could do all the testing as well. In the end travelled the world training engineers metallurgists and suppliers.

Canada is still a place where you have the opportunity to make anything you want out of yourself, all it takes is a shit load of will power and hard work.
It is always easier to say not now, later, then before you realize it later becomes never.
As my signature says .You make your own luck in life.

 

[Sol Tee Nutz]

Not sure about Quebec but demand for elevator repair and refrigeration repair is good in Alberta, pay is decent also. Never too old ( well over 50 ) to learn a new skill.
My ex wife got free education plus food money from the government to go to school as an adult.

 

[EagerBeaver]

Right now I need a Kenmore refrigerator repair bad. Water is pooling on the bottom of the refrigerator. I called my local appliance dealer where I bought my microwave and they gave me the names of 3 local service contractors. I bought the refrigerator at Sears, 17 years ago, and the chance of that 800 number inside the fridge being in service is probably zero. Sears is no more.

I smell a new fridge on the horizon for EB especially if they tell me it’s a $200 job

 

[C.B. Brown]

Right now I need a Kenmore refrigerator repair bad. Water is pooling on the bottom of the refrigerator. I called my local appliance dealer where I bought my microwave and they gave me the names of 3 local service contractors. I bought the refrigerator at Sears, 17 years ago, and the chance of that 800 number inside the fridge being in service is probably zero. Sears is no more.

I smell a new fridge on the horizon for EB especially if they tell me it’s a $200 job

life expectancy for a properly maintained refrigerator is between 14 and 17 years, depending on model and size. Compact refrigerators typically run for 14 years on average, while a standard refrigerator will run up to 17 years
eb take the elastic off the bundle and get a new one

 

[EagerBeaver]

Oliver,

I am very realistically bracing myself for if not expecting to buy a new one. That fridge owes me nothing and I never had to service it once.

 

[C.B. Brown]

Oliver,

I am very realistically bracing myself for if not expecting to buy a new one. That fridge owes me nothing and I never had to service it once.

take note if you buy a new one and can get 1 with the evaparator coils at the back do yourself a favour and get it
new ones look cool but they are build to crap out at 1/3 the life of the old ones
the evaporator coils underneath are made in a way its almost imposable to clean thus overheating and compressor failure

 

[Halloween Mike]

17 years... yeah i think you are due to get a new one at that point. Unless its a minor job (but your likely gonna overpay just because of the repairman time and travel expense). You should probably go for the new one.

but if you want something in life, nobody is going to give it to you and wishing it is not going to make it happen either.

Cost nothing to ask? LOL. It work for some peoples. But joke aside i mean i wasn't expecting anything from this thread, i was just curious to know what peoples think. Like i said there is a fetish for just about everything and not just sexually, so who knows, this probably exist to some extent, even if rare.

 

[EagerBeaver]

Mike,

The thought of getting something for nothing should bother you. It would bother me. If you are a freeloader in life, you have to know that and can’t feel good about it. I realize the beggars on St. Catherine Street don’t have any shame or not much anyway, but when they go home at night do they look at the mirror and see a productive member of society? Or do they have a sense of entitlement and believe everyone owes them something for nothing? The psychology of it is minimally interesting as it reflects the concept of welfare and governments funding those who are healthy and able bodied but not working or working very much.

Get a substantive trade or job and you will have not only more money for escorts but be able to take pride in your productivity and ability to be self sufficient. And you might actually like and enjoy your job.

 

[hungry101]

+1 for Fradi. Mike - you make your own luck in life. I would look into some of those programs for skilled labor and never look back. It might be a lot of fun. My friend with his HS education and Welding school can make as much as $170K USD/ year. He's a bit of an expert at Chrysler and in the Union. They even uses him as a consultant when welding aluminium which is not easy to do. And he didn't have to dig himself a great hole by spending $85K a year for 6 years and take useless classes like those offered in the school of Social Sciences in order to do it.

The other thing I like is that he is so damn handy. He is working with tools all the time with other skilled workers. He put a new 4 wheel drive differential in his side-by-side. He put all new wood floors in his house and there is seemingly nothing he can't do or one of his co-workers can't do. This is another benefit of becoming a skilled tradesmen. You can fix your own stuff.

I will say that I spend more or at least as much money on golf, hunting, and fishing trips as I do on this hobby.

 

[hungry101]

Besides, when these guys who have lots of money are developing ways to "give back", financing a fellow hobbyists escort habit isn't very high on the list of possibilities LOL.

^^ I just signed up for Tunnels To Towers to make a small monthly donation. As soon as I can pay my house off, which is about a year, I'll see a few more girls but I will significantly up my participation into charities like this. Subsidizing a taste tester for escorts couldn't be a lower priority.

Also, there is something to be said about not seeing too many girls in too small of a time frame. Like you, I come from out of town every once in a while when I have time and squeeze in as many girls as possible because I'm never sure of when I'll be able to return. Last trip I ended up seeing 7 girls in 4 days, and honestly, by the last day it began to feel like a Chore. Still had a great time, but I learned that spacing out your sessions is much better and makes each visit feel special. The law of diminishing returns is applicable in many areas, and this is definitely one of them. Just be grateful for the opportunities that you have and realize that what you believe is going to make you happier sometimes doesn't live up to expectations.

^^I couldn't of said it better. Man do I understand this.

The advice about going to trade school is spot on. Become an electrician, you can eventually get certified as a Master electrician and make some serious bank.

There are any number of things you can do.

This is great advice

 

[The Nature Boy]

Get a substantive trade or job and you will have not only more money for escorts but be able to take pride in your productivity and ability to be self sufficient. And you might actually like and enjoy your job.

mike,

as a guy who spent a shit load of $$$ and time on school, take my advice. Give some thought to becoming a male gigolo. The world is big and cold and you seem like you r a good guy and probably have a lot of luv to spread. Might as well make some $$ while
you are at it. Trade job? Come on? Fuck is that all about.

 

[Halloween Mike]

Mike, those guys that buy expensive gifts for the girls get pleasure out of making the girls feel good

YES. But in this scenario, they could get pleasure from making the guy feel good. I dunno, again this is all speculation and like i said there is no "too weird fantasy" in the world of adult entertainement.

The thought of getting something for nothing should bother you. I realize the beggars on St. Catherine Street don’t have any shame or not much anyway

Wait... are you comparing me to the beggars of Montreal? LOL dude i could never do that. On a couple ocasions i asked peoples for directions and once i think the person taught i was gonna ask him money, he brushed me off so badly so i said "wow, i just wanted to know about directions" then he turned around, excused himself and gave me the directions i asked for, but the sentiment i got initially was weird. I wouldn't be able to deal with that on a constant basic. I know street begging in Montreal is litteraly a job for some, i seen "beggars" in Nike shoes... like yeah dude im soo not giving you anything lol. So i didn't felt offended he taught i was one but still...

Anyway.

Get a substantive trade or job and you will have not only more money for escorts but be able to take pride in your productivity and ability to be self sufficient.

Im actually self suficient as you say. Like sure i would love to have plenty of money, but my current situation is not bad. I mean seeing escorts is a luxury, a big one, if i didn't see them i would have more money than i need to live and fund my other hobbies and pay my debt rather fast. Like i say i don't have much expenses in life and this (for the moment) fit me well. I will reevaluate this in a few years.

mike,

as a guy who spent a shit load of $$$ and time on school, take my advice. Give some thought to becoming a male gigolo.

Im guessing this is a joke right? Even if you never saw me in person, you should already know by this thread i don't have the body for that lol.

 

[CLOUD 500]

Mike,

The thought of getting something for nothing should bother you. It would bother me. If you are a freeloader in life, you have to know that and can’t feel good about it. I realize the beggars on St. Catherine Street don’t have any shame or not much anyway, but when they go home at night do they look at the mirror and see a productive member of society? Or do they have a sense of entitlement and believe everyone owes them something for nothing?

Very judgemental. You got no idea what you are talking about Weird how Americans find it easy to believe thay millions are lazy instead of saying that 40 over priviliged executives are greedy and living off their employees. Greedy CEOs got a sense of entitlement. Having said that all those so called freeloaders you call them you got no idea what they live through or how they ended up there. Who wants to beg for money or live on the streets. One of the main reasons they are homeless is due to mental dysfunctions and there is a complete lack of help for them. The government is more interested to paying people to have kids vs helping those homeless. What they need are a psychiatrist. Many got schizophrenia among other mental dysfunctions. Many also got addictions.