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sene5hos

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It's important not to talk about prices, otherwise the thread will be deleted.

I would like to know the opinion of girls who work or who have worked in agencies, or who work as indies.

We can talk about Incall or Outcall, inconveniences or facilities, preparations etc ... in short, everything surrounding everyday life.

And of course the preference for merbistes, or if they have already discussed it with their partners.
 

sene5hos

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I think Julia has resumed this question many many many times


Yes, for the old ones, but there are a lot of new ones on this site. Like me, I never came to express myself in the Lounge section.

Julia had mentioned all the things she had to do before receiving these clients. Also Luna was voiced on the subject as well.

Yesterday there was a thread talking about agency and indie rates, which was deleted.
 

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For me, it is more important to have a girl who is just right match for me both in terms of her physical appearance and her personality\service. Indy v agency doesnt matter nearly as much as compatibility. The only general preference I have for agencies is that when it comes to me visiting Montreal, I dont like incalls. I want to host the girl at my airbnb. Some indys dont do outcalls.
 

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Personally. I like agency. Because of the bookers. Sam at XO has allowed us many orgies and foursomes that other agency bookers have denied.
Sam @ XO and James @ euphoria have always gone out of their way to get me a booking. So I prefer agencies over indy for this reason.
i think it also depends on how much affection versus action you are looking for
Agency for action. Indy for affection.
But for indy . I have a strong affliction for Lea as an indy. She is my go-to gal
 
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Don’t think it makes any difference who you go to and whether u get affection vs action from agency vs Indy. It’s all variable
 
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I have never used an agency but I don’t think it is about that it is more about the lady herself.
I think you can find someone you can connect with and have a fabulous time either way.
My ATF after all used to work at an agency to start.

I prefer Indys because I don’t like dealing with a booker or middleman of any type and I like the individual personal attention that an Indy provides.
The other reason is that most agency girls tend to be very young spinners and my taste is more to a fit lady with an hour glass figure and some nice curves to go with it, and a bit more mature also.
I think Indys by nature of their business and all the things that it takes to run it become more mature and perhaps value a repeat client a bit more.
 

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I am an agency guy (almost weekly)except for some girls that I meet sometimes in private.

Funny thing is that I am going to meet my first professional Indy next Tuesday and I am like a child waiting for Christmas :)
The pictures on her website are awsome (those eyes! ) and i wasnt going to pass on it
 
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Yes it's true.
With an agency girl, yes we have action, but rarely affection.
With an indy we have both.
It's for me.
Great response, I never spent more than 1 hr with a agency gal, my indy I could spend days with her. I feel more comfortable with her. I have to admit I have had some crazy romps with agency gals.
 

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Not gonna knock on you frady. But even though sonia von sacher and Melodie are both indy. They both use a booker as a middleman. So i guess you mean you prefer an indy without a middle person?
 
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^^^Not a booker, but executive assistant. I think that title is more fitting, lol.

I don’t consider Sammy, James and Celina bookers. Truly Consultants. Man o man, u don’t even know.

In Toronto, I would call the people bookers, it’s pretty much a “pick someone and lets move on”.
 

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^^^Not a booker, but executive assistant. I think that title is more fitting, lol. I don’t consider Sammy, James and Celina bookers. Truly Consultants. Man o man, u don’t even know.

I do not know Celina, but I agree that with James and Sammy, the term "booker" is a completely denigrating label that in no way accurately describes their job duties. They are Consultants.
 
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Many indies have bookers too n some even pimp behind I only found out after that our personal interactions was actually not her maybe all the money i gave her neither... She was a HDH too at 350h n this doesn’t mean it’s more ethical... I know of one guy who was the booker n manager of almost a dozen “high end” indy working in Montreal n Toronto. You have many curvy girls n older girls at agencies or massage parlor so you guys are just generalizing you can find weird things from anywhere in the industry. Just hobby for fun there’s nothing we can do with what happens with how girls run their business
 
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When FKS was in existence there was a thread that debated whether they were really a consortium of Indies or an agency. There is no question that Giselle acted as a booker in very similar fashion to James or Sammy. The fact that distinctions in the way some indies do business and the way agencies do business often blur is not exactly a news flash. The distinguishing feature is the good ole employee vs. independent contractor test. An employee is someone whose hours and rate of pay is established by who they are working for. An independent contractor decides how much to work, whom they will see, their rate of pay, whether they drive themselves to appointments or someone else does, etc. It's a CONTROL test which is exactly what it is under the law in Court when the issue of determining whether someone is an independent contractor or an employee for worker's compensation purposes.

I once saw an extremely popular MP girl who worked for a massage parlor but I technically considered her an Indy for several reasons: (1) she would do outcalls, unlike other girls at the MP, and this was allowed by the MP with the agency getting their room rate; (2) she drove herself to the outcalls; and although the MP booked the appointment, she directly negotiated the rate for the outcall, in other words, what she would get after the MP room fee; (3) she worked when she wanted to and not when the MP wanted her to, this being tolerated due to her popularity and demand for her services; (4) she picked and chose her clients and also picked and chose who got FS, me being one of the chosen ones, fortunately. The ultimate YMMV MP girl.

So there are no hard and fast rules, just categories, but in most cases it's pretty obvious with an Indy if she is a true indy or not. If her website has a bunch of restrictions or safety rules or rules of etiquette on it, they are coming from her, no "pimp" is going to restrict jackshit.
 
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sam and james ARE NOT BOOKERS, they didn't get where they are to be bookers, what a downgrade of a title.
just because they are sometimes booking, doesn't make them bookers.
A true owner of a business, there is no task beneath them.

indies are more courtesans, they're there to pamper you
agency girls are a mix of everything.

Agency career is like going to middleschool and going indy is like going to university.
You can find anything you want from agency girls, you just gotta find them, and catch them during their evolution.
Indy girls, are pretty straight forward with what they provide, you know exactly what you are getting. They often have a special attribute that separates them from the rest of the girls.

I still buy black market weed, because its my main diet as its more accessible and potency that I like
I also buy from SQDC, for high end weed, that I only smoke for desert.
 

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sam and james ARE NOT BOOKERS, they didn't get where they are to be bookers, what a downgrade of a title.
just because they are sometimes booking, doesn't make them bookers.
A true owner of a business, there is no task beneath them.

of course you are right. I did not mean it in any derogatory way.
i meant that they are the middleperson that have gone out of their way for me
They are incredible business owners who I know work incredibly hard to deliver a quality product.
 

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of course you are right. I did not mean it in any derogatory way.
i meant that they are the middleperson that have gone out of their way for me
They are incredible business owners who I know work incredibly hard to deliver a quality product.

my bad, i misinterpreted the conversation.
 
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