Is It Appropriate to Inquire About Menu Options with Service Providers?

[Gazoo64]

I think the moment someone asks for directly what services do you provide, and even worse what is your menu, it is a bothersome question to many SPs. Sure some have a menu ready to share, but most I know of want to be able to tailor make the expierience for the client they are seeing, not have a checklist to have to follow. Not everyone is into the same things.

I agree. I think chemistry is important and so is getting to know each other, which is why I repeat when it clicks. And then the rest will follow.
I don’t believe in asking for a menu or services because a lot of it is based on YMMV.

I don’t mean to demean some guys, and we all have our ways of inquiring. But a pet peeve of mine is when replying to a detailed review with a few words:
“DFK? CIM? Anal!”

WTF? It’s not a one size fits all. It probably depends on YMMV, are you a repeat customer, is there good chemistry, etc. Maybe the regular who’s repeated a bunch of times gets DFK, but the first time client no. Duh.

Anyway, I like to repeat when it clicks, and I never asked for a list of menu items. lol!

To each their own!

 

[Obvio-0bvio]

Recently, a member comment on another thread, stating that if all menu details aren't included, then the review is useless. I completely disagree with this viewpoint, as everyone has different requirements when choosing service providers. Essentially, the member is suggesting that when I write a review after booking a service, I should include all menu details. I found this amusing because, even though I'm not particularly focused on those extra menu details, I still need to include them in my review. Of course, if he’s paying for the service, I will ensure to mention everything about the menu. It's quite amusing to see the audacity some members display on this forum, almost as if i was working for them.I now understand why some members choose to stop writing reviews, and it's due to the ungrateful individuals who are negatively and ruining it for everyone on this platform.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

Recently, a member comment on another thread, stating that if all menu details aren't included, then the review is useless. I completely disagree with this viewpoint, as everyone has different requirements when choosing service providers. Essentially, the member is suggesting that when I write a review after booking a service, I should include all menu details. I found this amusing because, even though I'm not particularly focused on those extra menu details, I still need to include them in my review. Of course, if he’s paying for the service, I will ensure to mention everything about the menu. It's quite amusing to see the audacity some members display on this forum, almost as if i was working for them.

Why can't he just ask the provider directly?

 

[Obvio-0bvio]

Why can't he just ask the provider directly?

Some members believe that their status as long time member grants them control over the entire forum, leading them to instruct others on how to share their experiences.No one is concerned about whether you are a long standing member; what truly matters is what you contribute. Whether you are new or old is irrelevant.

 

[neverbored]

I really don't see what the problem is. This isn't a tinder date where you're gonna meet up to see if it clicks. The clicking part for many is a bonus... not a feature. I just don't see why this is even up for discussion. A guy wants to know if she can deliver or not. Detailed reviews is the the heart of this board. It has often even made me see girls I NEVER would have just based on their profiles. I don't see girls that have super restrictive offerings, so ya, I really prefer to know before I waste a minute inquiring. This is sex we're talking about. I want to know exactly what's not possible so I can move on towards a girl that does.

As for why we can't just ask the girl: delays, rediculous responses, their mood swings... I mean the list of reasons why I would want to keep the discussion to a minimum is quite long. And sometimes the process is really annoying. You girls here, seem pretty normal, you express yourselves well...but the outside world isn't always that simple. I don't want to spend 10 minutes chatting every girl just to decide if I want to book or not. I prefer my mind to be made before I pull the trigger.

YMMV really is too vague. When you're paying, the last thing you want is vague.

 

[Flyingby]

Why can't he just ask the provider directly?

You can easily ask an indy.
Not sure which member Obvio is referring to. But I am sure that merbite is A GOD. Good thing we have members like that who write real reviews. Would love for @Obvio-0bvio to share that review instead of hiding the identity of this amazing reviewer.
You can’t ask agency girls directly. And most bookers don’t know
I have asked indy’s in the past and chosen to see or not see them based on their restrictions. Neither one of us can be disappointed if we have the info beforehand.
If cim is important to me and the sp doesn’t offer it. If I go see her. i can’t be disappointed.
If I don’t know and upon meeting she says no. She might be disappointed that I won’t repeat with her. (Yes. Some sp have asked me to repeat)
That should answer the why I can’t ask directly.

But that does not answer your question about why can’t he. Since we don’t know the identity of this mysterious and probably legendary reviewer without reading every single review

 

[Flyingby]

Recently, a member comment on another thread, stating that if all menu details aren't included, then the review is useless. I completely disagree with this viewpoint, as everyone has different requirements when choosing service providers. Essentially, the member is suggesting that when I write a review after booking a service, I should include all menu details. I found this amusing because, even though I'm not particularly focused on those extra menu details, I still need to include them in my review.

The beauty of the board. Is we are all entitled to an opinion.
A hotel, restaurant or even movie review is all about the details.
Did said member call you out to say you specifically need to add more details?
Or are you AGAIN criticizing a viewpoint different than yours?

 

[Lunaseraphim]

You can easily ask an indy.
Not sure which member Obvio is referring to. But I am sure that merbite is A GOD. Good thing we have members like that who wrote real reviews. Would love for @Obvio-0bvio to share that review instead of hiding the identity of this amazing reviewer.
You can’t ask agency girls directly. And most bookers don’t know
I have asked indy’s in the past and chosen to see or not see them based on their restrictions. Neither one of us can be disappointed if we have the info beforehand.
If cim is important to me and the sp doesn’t offer it. If I go see her. i can’t be disappointed.
If I don’t know and upon meeting she says no. She might be disappointed that I won’t repeat with her. (Yes. Some sp have asked me to repeat)
That should answer the why I can’t ask directly.

But that does not answer your question about why can’t he. Since we don’t know the identity of this mysterious and probably legendary reviewer without reading every single review

I see what you mean now! I've never worked for an agency and I was always told that the type of service SP's offer is pretty much gfe..

 

[Flyingby]

I see what you mean now! I've never worked for an agency and I was always told that the type of service SP's offer is pretty much gfe..

Agency girl have same offering as indy girl. Some are pse. Some are gfe. But unless it is written in review. Or shared in a close circle of 40-50 friends. It is hard to know.

 

[maymay]

You are the customer I don't see any wrong in this at all

 

[LC18]

You are the customer I don't see any wrong in this at all

And this is exactly why I started posting on merb. You can ask but don’t be surprised if your message remains unanswered

 

[Obvio-0bvio]

You are the customer I don't see any wrong in this at all

What if you are the customer and do not enjoy this type of service? Would you still choose to engage in it just to please certain members? The interaction should focus on your experience, rather than catering to the preferences or requirements of others.

 

[Halloween Mike]

For me it's a huge turn off to be asked about a ''menu''.. I am not a restaurant.

If somebody wants a clear list of services that I can be guaranteed to provide, I will offer it. Some services are ymmv. I've been considering if I should write a list of my services in my ads, but honestly I want clients to desire having an experience with me instead of just a bunch of acronyms.

I tend to prefer if a client asks ''do you do x and y'' rather than having me list the acronyms. However I like to be upfront about everything and I like clarity, I want to know what's being expected of me and I want it to be clearly understood that I offer certain things and not others, so it's okay when somebody asks me to list my services.

"Menu" i think is just a way of speak. Like when peoples said "To do List" and then some guys wanted to have it change to "To See List". If another word seem more apropriate i see no problem in switching for it. Ultimately i just want to know the type of experience i will have.

I can't speak for everyone but for ME there is 2 things (well 3 technically) that will influenciate my choice in booking when it comes to services. BBBJ (not everyone offer "GFE") and CIM. COF is an added bonus. Its harder to get due to make-up and such, especially in agencies (wich i understand) so i know not to expect it. But a porn finish my fav lol. Like open mouth cim/cof mix. Now that does not mean i won't see providers who not provide it, but it may change my "interest" in them, like i may want to prioritize someone else before or such. Price can also be a factor. I mean if its 60$ its not the same as 200$ extra...

The reality is exept a few ladies who are more active here like yourself, Lena and a couple others, most of the time the only thing we can base our bookings on is look/pictures and services. So altough i do understand the idea of wanting clients to pick you because they want "an experience with you", and in your case your merb presence cover partially a reason why someone would be drawn specifically to you, its not common for SPs.

Then i know im not the "norm" but for me "hobbying" is "an event". Its not something i do every weeks like some guys here. I go to Montreal about 4 times a year these days, so i got to be selective on who i am gonna see cause i can't see everyone i would like to. And i do repeat with certain providers i really enjoyed being with so... yeah that mean i don't see that many different ladies a year. 4 visits but usually 2 end up being 2 agency girls in 1 day so about 6, sometimes 7 meetings for a year.

Therefore as a client i ABSOLUTELY LOVE when i go to a website and all my potential questions are answered right away. No time wasted for anyone. I will only contact if im serious in booking. So the next best option is asking my questions in one short text and having a clear reply right away. I try to minimize taking the time of any SP because i know time wasters sucks.

And for agency ladies, well reviews are a good help of course.

 

[Lunaseraphim]

"Menu" i think is just a way of speak. Like when peoples said "To do List" and then some guys wanted to have it change to "To See List". If another word seem more apropriate i see no problem in switching for it. Ultimately i just want to know the type of experience i will have.

I can't speak for everyone but for ME there is 2 things (well 3 technically) that will influenciate my choice in booking when it comes to services. BBBJ (not everyone offer "GFE") and CIM. COF is an added bonus. Its harder to get due to make-up and such, especially in agencies (wich i understand) so i know not to expect it. But a porn finish my fav lol. Like open mouth cim/cof mix. Now that does not mean i won't see providers who not provide it, but it may change my "interest" in them, like i may want to prioritize someone else before or such. Price can also be a factor. I mean if its 60$ its not the same as 200$ extra...

The reality is exept a few ladies who are more active here like yourself, Lena and a couple others, most of the time the only thing we can base our bookings on is look/pictures and services. So altough i do understand the idea of wanting clients to pick you because they want "an experience with you", and in your case your merb presence cover partially a reason why someone would be drawn specifically to you, its not common for SPs.

Then i know im not the "norm" but for me "hobbying" is "an event". Its not something i do every weeks like some guys here. I go to Montreal about 4 times a year these days, so i got to be selective on who i am gonna see cause i can't see everyone i would like to. And i do repeat with certain providers i really enjoyed being with so... yeah that mean i don't see that many different ladies a year. 4 visits but usually 2 end up being 2 agency girls in 1 day so about 6, sometimes 7 meetings for a year.

Therefore as a client i ABSOLUTELY LOVE when i go to a website and all my potential questions are answered right away. No time wasted for anyone. I will only contact if im serious in booking. So the next best option is asking my questions in one short text and having a clear reply right away. I try to minimize taking the time of any SP because i know time wasters sucks.

And for agency ladies, well reviews are a good help of course.

I'm just talking about the language that is used, I just feel like the word ''menu'' and even a word like ''hobbying'' feel dehumanizing to me. Personally I like being asked directly if I offer xyz, instead of being asked for a menu, and I think a lot of SP's feel the same way. I'm just talking about semantics here. Personally I don't describe my ''menu'' on my ads and website except here, because I want people to enjoy their experience with me as a provider and not just want a list of acronyms. However I completely understand that if you are looking for a specific service, you need to ask if the person offers it.

This is off topic but not all clients choose me because I have an active presence here, I wasn't having a shortage of clients before I joined the forums although it helped tremendously to post here and I'm grateful for it. I know that might not sound true, but a lot of clients have told me that they booked me because they liked my vibe and personality. Obviously I'm not stupid enough to think that if I didn't offer bbbj and if I was ''unattractive'' these same clients would still book me, but there's a ton of attractive providers who offer these services and I stood out to them.

 

[Fradi]

I don’t ask for a menu but I can understand guys that want to know and are searching for certain things before choosing someone and don’t want to waste time with calling and asking which can be a frustrating experience as Indies do have a tendency to take their time in answering even someone who is asking to book them.
Some are too shy or not that great at communicating and would rather know up front if the lady offers what they are looking for.

Reviews shouldn’t be questioned unless it is blatantly disrespectful or dehumanizing it is someone’s personal experience and he can describe it anyway he likes, if you don’t like it, tough shit don’t read it and move on to the next.
Personally I don’t get into acronyms I will say if she is GFE or not and if she offers everything that is on her websight that should be enough.
For me it is more about the experience and how she treats you than what kind of acronyms she offers and gymnastics and certainly not about my performance.

 

[maymay]

What if you are the customer and do not enjoy this type of service? Would you still choose to engage in it just to please certain members? The interaction should focus on your experience, rather than catering to the preferences or requirements of others.

I have been out of the hobby for a long time 3 to 4 years I always booked with agencies, Ferrari was a hit and miss, I think mtlgfe and wildtimes don't excise anymore. Now you can check the adds and see what the provider offers service wise. The term I saw YUMM or something refers to how the SP might feel attracted to you. I do believe that the service will be better.

The last time I did book I had mixed, some were very mechanical while others liked to cuddle and liked it more sensual (i always preferred the second one)

Some SP will show up rush the service and leave even if you paid for 1h.

 

[Halloween Mike]

Ferrari was a hit and miss, I think mtlgfe and wildtimes don't excise anymore. Now you can check the adds and see what the provider offers service wise. The term I saw YUMM or something refers to how the SP might feel attracted to you. I do believe that the service will be better.

MTLGFE has fusion with Euphoria. Ferrari from my understanding is not a GFE agency. You MAY get it with certain girls but its often extra charge and really a case by case. For an agency wich has been around for so long they have so few reviews here and there is a reason. I think they cather more to the late night party guys. I check their website ocasionally and they have more listed at 3 am than at 3 pm often...

As for the term YMMV (your mileage may vary), its possible being attractive may get you better services with certain providers of course, but i think a lot of it is also how you behave, how clean you are etc.

 

[Flyingby]

What if you are the customer and do not enjoy this type of service? Would you still choose to engage in it just to please certain members? The interaction should focus on your experience, rather than catering to the preferences or requirements of others.

Oh those wascally members. Always asking too much of you
Yes you should. For your fans! That is how you stay 1%!

Or. You could ask afterwards. During cuddle time.
Tell her it’s not for you, since you are a gent. But to ensure a positive experience with the service provider
That is the true power of a review

 

[Obvio-0bvio]

I have been out of the hobby for a long time 3 to 4 years I always booked with agencies, Ferrari was a hit and miss, I think mtlgfe and wildtimes don't excise anymore. Now you can check the adds and see what the provider offers service wise. The term I saw YUMM or something refers to how the SP might feel attracted to you. I do believe that the service will be better.

The last time I did book I had mixed, some were very mechanical while others liked to cuddle and liked it more sensual (i always preferred the second one)

Some SP will show up rush the service and leave even if you paid for 1h.

Hello, my friend. I don’t think your response relates to my previous message. I want to emphasize that I respect your opinion and perspective, but everything you mentioned is quite dated for me. As for Ferrari, that agency is a disaster. I used to reach out to them frequently, but one day during the pandemic, they abruptly raised their prices from $280 to $330. When I inquired with the service provider about the reason for the $50 increase, she told me it had nothing to do with the service providers fees. Upon hearing that, I decided to sever ties with them and never contacted them again. They not only overcharge for mediocre service, but it was deeply disappointing to learn that they raised their prices without providing anything to the service provider. It’s one thing to increase prices, but to do so without compensating the service provider is a another level of greed and incompetence. It's disrespectful to the entire community of service providers, and I do not wish to be part of it.

 

[maymay]

Hello, my friend. I don’t think your response relates to my previous message. I want to emphasize that I respect your opinion and perspective, but everything you mentioned is quite dated for me. As for Ferrari, that agency is a disaster. I used to reach out to them frequently, but one day during the pandemic, they abruptly raised their prices from $280 to $330. When I inquired with the service provider about the reason for the $50 increase, she told me it had nothing to do with the service providers fees. Upon hearing that, I decided to sever ties with them and never contacted them again. They not only overcharge for mediocre service, but it was deeply disappointing to learn that they raised their prices without providing anything to the service provider. It’s one thing to increase prices, but to do so without compensating the service provider is a another level of greed and incompetence. It's disrespectful to the entire community of service providers, and I do not wish to be part of it.

OMG outdated is right last time I booked with Ferrari the price was 200-220$, then one day I call and she said no we checked your location and now its 240$ I told the women forget it. You are right I got good service from SP at Ferrari but I got pretty bad service too, you feel so cheated after the SP leaves and you paid for what.

So they now charge 330$ I am surprise they are still in the business. Price makes no sense at all

The last SP I book at Ferrari back in the days was a student, 220$ first off they post fake pictures so it was not the girl in the picture but this time the pics were really fake, she had an earing in one of her breast really small, as soon as I paid and she was naked she started, no kissing, no daty, no fingering, don't touch my tits sensible, I was like ok so what did I pay for exactly. She was a daytime provider, a few weeks back I book Anastasia night time French girl from France , she sat on my bed and could not stop saying, you want me to suck your dick you want me to suck your dick, I was like can we just be more sensual I am not that kind of guy, she said no, her service was mechanic as hell and once again no daty, no kissing, no nothing. I quit and never book at Ferrari again but not long after I had met my ex girlfriend so I stop booking SP the time I was with her.

Tonight i called Ferrari for fun to ask about pricing my god they are now charging between 260$ and 280$ its insane I ask if GFE is included the booker told me it depends on the SP, so you are right I do believe if you want GFE the SP can charge you extra that would come up to 300$ sorry but I just don't have that kind of money to spend on sex even If there SP look really nice and hot.

I been out of this hobby a few years but I just can't believe the price increase